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Posted by: Renee Aug 9 2015, 02:29 PM
Just a heads up, for those who don't know, but still participate over at Beth. They're going to be making new forums, and from what I'm hearing, a lot of things are going to get demolished. Usernames, post counts, stars .... all of that is going to be started over. Actually, here, http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1528524-bethesdanet-is-now-live-new-forums-coming-soon/?p=24234584 ...
We’re still in kicking the tires on Bethesda.net, and are very excited about the progress we’re making on the forums. We believe you guys will be happy with the changes and new features they will offer.
There are a few things worth noting at this time:
1) Usernames and posts will not be ported over. We will give folks a heads up as we get closer to the forum launch date so you can ready for the transition and claim your preferred username.
2) We will not transition all of our forums over at once. We want to make sure we’re testing functionality on the forums and gathering feedback from folks like you.
3) As forums transition over to Bethesda.net we plan to archive the existing forums so that folks can reference back to old posts.
Moving is never easy – there will be adjustments and we hope that you’ll pardon the dust as we all get used to our new digs. Knowing the longstanding efforts, love and attention, and general awesomness I’ve seen from all of you, I expect bigger and better things for everyone on the Bethesda.net forums.
Much more to come!
Personally I could care less about my username, my post count, my stars, all of that stuff. I was worried I would lose all my old posts there, the stories, the good times, but apparently #3 takes care of that. They're supposed to archive the old forums, which means all our ("Our", assuming you participated over at Beth) posts are going to be okay, we just won't be able to participate in old threads. PMs are also not getting ported over, but those are easy to archive, of course.
So in essence, http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/024/726/banhammer.jpg. yuk yuk.
It's all good though. Posted by: Uleni Athram Aug 9 2015, 02:42 PM
Couldn't care less, to be honest. The forums over there are too crowded for my liking and it's so easy to get into a foolish argument over the most minor of things with an uptight cockroach. I'd rather spend time in small communities where everyone knows everyone!
Posted by: Renee Aug 9 2015, 02:57 PM
I hear what you're saying, it's not all bad there though. I like both environments, Beth and Chorrol. There are a lot of good people over at Beth's forums, and I like the fact that there's always somebody new showing up over there.
Posted by: Acadian Aug 9 2015, 04:02 PM
Yikes! I remember the last time BethSoft made their forums 'new and improved' back in very early 2010. The result was a half dozen or so of us packed up our fan fics and moved here to chorrol. We were invited here by treydog and you can tell all of us 'treybabies' by our March 2010 join date. 
Who knows? Perhaps it will go fine. . . like the more recent BethSoft/Steam foray into paid mods . . . oh. . . wait. Uh oh. 
I'm worried.
I think Uleni and Renee are both right. BethSoft forums are big and many members there are way too quick to start an argument just to argue. Otoh, there are plenty of dear friends there. I do post regularly there but currently only on the somewhat rough and tumble Skyrim forums. 
Posted by: mirocu Aug 9 2015, 04:28 PM
Sigh.
I´m not gonna move over. I will get a new join date and everything, my entire history, will be gone, I can´t have that. The new Bethesda official forum will have to make due without me.
Posted by: SubRosa Aug 9 2015, 05:00 PM
I have not gone there in years. As Uleni pointed out, there are just too many trolls. But I am not going to say I will never go back. Sean Connery once said that about doing another Bond film. So naturally he ended up doing another Bond film...
Posted by: mirocu Aug 9 2015, 05:18 PM
I think it sucks. Even though it´s not at all the same anymore I was kinda hoping to celebrate ten years in 2017.
Oh, well...
Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Aug 9 2015, 05:53 PM
Sounds like it's time to advertise hardcore and get new blood.
Posted by: mALX Aug 9 2015, 07:15 PM
Yikes! I remember the last time BethSoft made their forums 'new and improved' back in very early 2010. The result was a half dozen or so of us packed up our fan fics and moved here to chorrol. We were invited here by treydog and you can tell all of us 'treybabies' by our March 2010 join date.
Who knows? Perhaps it will go fine. . . like the more recent BethSoft/Steam foray into paid mods . . . oh. . . wait. Uh oh.
I'm worried. I think Uleni and Renee are both right. BethSoft forums are big and many members there are way too quick to start an argument just to argue. Otoh, there are plenty of dear friends there. I do post regularly there but currently only on the somewhat rough and tumble Skyrim forums.
s I was remembering the same thing, this is exactly what drove us all here. And to take our profile names away? Why? How? Does this mean we are going to have to make all new profiles and give up all our longevity there?
This is worse than what they did before, this is Myspace kind of crap! We'll have to start calling Todd "Tom." Doesn't he know that loyal fans don't like being shoved off to make room for the new formats?
I had better write to Leydenne and Princess Stomper before the change, because afterward I might not be able to.
I have not gone there in years. As Uleni pointed out, there are just too many trolls. But I am not going to say I will never go back. Sean Connery once said that about doing another Bond film. So naturally he ended up doing another Bond film...
Same here, except to write to friends that are only there (like Leydenne and Princess Stomper).
Posted by: Uleni Athram Aug 9 2015, 07:19 PM
Sounds like it's time to advertise hardcore and get new blood.
I'll help by supplying them with smutty fanfics regarding Ulfric and Tullius!
Posted by: mALX Aug 9 2015, 07:26 PM
Sounds like it's time to advertise hardcore and get new blood.
I'll help by supplying them with smutty fanfics regarding Ulfric and Tullius!
And the evil antagonist is a power mad gnome named Todd Boward, any similarity between him and any real life person is purely coincidence ...
Posted by: Uleni Athram Aug 9 2015, 07:33 PM
And the evil Todd Boward plans on marrying Ulfric against his will, because he's a jealous little gnome that can't grow an epic beard like Ulfric. Plus, he likes northern men and their "icicles."
I really gotta go to sleep now LOL
Posted by: mALX Aug 9 2015, 07:45 PM
And the evil Todd Boward plans on marrying Ulfric against his will, because he's a jealous little gnome that can't grow an epic beard like Ulfric. Plus, he likes northern men and their "icicles."
I really gotta go to sleep now LOL
Todd Boward shoves the player into his secret catacombs where he is planning to turn into an incubus and suck the faces from all his prisoners so their remains will not be able to be identified ...
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Aug 9 2015, 09:51 PM
Hmm, much like the existing Bethsoft forums, this thread is now subject to Skyrim-related derailment.
How very appropriate 
Posted by: Uleni Athram Aug 10 2015, 01:18 AM
Nope, not Skyrim; sanity-derailment is what I'm going for here. 
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Aug 10 2015, 10:47 AM
Then I fear that as yet you're falling short, having achieved merely topic derailment
Posted by: mirocu Aug 10 2015, 02:53 PM
I have already begun to advertise this place to a bunch of people I know aren´t here 
Posted by: Destri Melarg Aug 10 2015, 07:21 PM
Another 'treybaby' here (thanks a lot, Acadian ). Lost my original name and password ages ago during one of the previous purges on the Bethsoft forums. Haven't been back since. Maybe I'll go back once the new forums are all up and running… then again, maybe I won't.
Posted by: ghastley Aug 10 2015, 07:45 PM
I forsee a lot of issues if they don't let the established users claim their usernames for a period. Just matching the email addresses or something to confirm it's the same user. Otherwise there will be deliberate impersonation happening, something we've seen here.
Posted by: mirocu Aug 11 2015, 08:09 AM
I forsee a lot of issues if they don't let the established users claim their usernames for a period. Just matching the email addresses or something to confirm it's the same user. Otherwise there will be deliberate impersonation happening, something we've seen here.
Yeah, an identity is an identity and I think it´s important to know that mirocu is still mirocu and not Acadian in disguise...
Posted by: Grits Aug 12 2015, 09:00 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Renee! I would have missed this until the day my link no longer worked. 
Posted by: mirocu Dec 10 2015, 08:33 PM
Still unsure if I´ll join the new site. Guess I´ll wait and see how it unfolds 
Anyone who´s set on joining up directly?
Posted by: mALX Dec 10 2015, 08:46 PM
Still unsure if I´ll join the new site. Guess I´ll wait and see how it unfolds
Anyone who´s set on joining up directly?
Is the new site up? I didn't know.
I just went there, and there isn't a forum to be found, it is all about advertising their new games and gear. Are they doing away with the forums?
Posted by: ghastley Dec 10 2015, 08:52 PM
The bethesda.net site exists now, but the "community" link takes you back to bethsoft.com. So the site's there, but not the new forums.
Posted by: mirocu Feb 3 2016, 11:11 PM
ATTENTION
They are apparently letting people sign up now so act quick if you´re gonna. I won´t since I can´t even access bethesda.net plus I don´t like this whole thing.
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Feb 3 2016, 11:14 PM
Eh, it's been so long since I was around the bethsoft forums, I might not bother.
Posted by: Acadian Feb 3 2016, 11:44 PM
Thank you for the update, mirocu. I did go look at Gstaff's thread, followed his instructions and registered. Happily, Acadian was available as a call sign and I had no problems. Not sure what it means exactly, but I am registered now. Lol.
Posted by: Grits Feb 4 2016, 12:03 AM
Thanks for the update. I guess I'm free to shop as myself on the new site.
Posted by: ghastley Feb 4 2016, 02:26 AM
Signed up, too, just to make sure my username isn't taken. I wasn't happy that the same password wouldn't work. Stronger passwords are harder to remember, so not really more secure, anyway.
Posted by: Decrepit Feb 4 2016, 02:42 AM
I signed up as my decrepit self, but won't visit there again until I know the forums are active. Wanna link straight to 'em rather than contend with the Bethesda.net home page, which I have no interest in.
Posted by: Lopov Feb 4 2016, 06:15 PM
Just like Decrepit, I'll wait for the forums to be launched before getting back to Bethesda.net because I don't like the home page either. I registered, but the forced keys of the password annoyed me, not sure how exactly this contributes to a stronger password. Since in the past few years I haven't posted much at Bethsoft, I don't expect to post much at the new forums either but we'll see.
Posted by: ghastley Feb 4 2016, 07:17 PM
Some notes that may have relevance to others:
I registered from my browser at home, and tried to login from work. It accepted the name and password, but sent me an email (to my home server) with the login link for the "new browser or device". It's likely that will happen any time you clear your cookies, so make sure the email address you supply the first time isn't temporary, or you might get locked out.
User names containing spaces aren't allowed, as the space acts as a delimiter in some of the interfaces, and the name would get truncated at the space. Presumable Pseron Wyrd has changed his, as he states he can get it. Only one non-alphanumeric character, too. Can't see any reason for that restriction. Accented characters should count as regular alphabetic ones.
Posted by: tegeus-Cromis Feb 4 2016, 07:56 PM
This all just sounds too tedious. Though I'm mostly concerned about just two forums - OB Mods and the (frequently excellent) Construction Set forums. But it looks to me like The Assimilation Lab and TES Alliance (and Chorrol, of course!) can fill the gap mightily, so I just may not bother with Beth Forums at all once the change happens.
Posted by: Renee Feb 4 2016, 08:48 PM
Signed up, too, just to make sure my username isn't taken. .
This exactly. I don't want anybody pretending to be me.
I made sure to put my new username in my current sig over at Beth, just so there's no confusion. Not to start on a negative note, but one thing that really sucks is we cannot put a space, hyphen, or underscore into our name. So now I'm ReneeGade instead of Renee Gade.
I can live with that, I guess, but still....Maybe the new forums will be okay. Maybe the search function will be better, oh my gosh, Beth's former search function was so awful!
Posted by: ghastley Feb 4 2016, 09:35 PM
Hyphens and underscores should be permitted, but only one. The space restriction makes sense, but the only one hyphen part doesn't.
Posted by: Darkness Eternal Feb 4 2016, 10:04 PM
Hope Rohugh isn't around this time.
Time to bypass the ban.
Posted by: Darkness Eternal Feb 4 2016, 10:21 PM
How do I sign up for the new forums?
How do I sign up for the new forums?
Posted by: ghastley Feb 4 2016, 10:38 PM
This is the link in the Bethsoft general forums.
https://account.bethesda.net/en/login
Some have reported that the registration process fails in Firefox, and recommend using Chrome.
The new forums themselves are not yet accessible. This is just the sign-up process for when they're opened. Existing users got a bit of advance warning.
Posted by: Decrepit Feb 4 2016, 10:45 PM
This is the link in the Bethsoft general forums.
https://account.bethesda.net/en/login
Some have reported that the registration process fails in Firefox, and recommend using Chrome.
The new forums themselves are not yet accessible. This is just the sign-up process for when they're opened. Existing users got a bit of advance warning.
Posted by: Darkness Eternal Feb 4 2016, 10:52 PM
This is the link in the Bethsoft general forums.
https://account.bethesda.net/en/login
Some have reported that the registration process fails in Firefox, and recommend using Chrome.
The new forums themselves are not yet accessible. This is just the sign-up process for when they're opened. Existing users got a bit of advance warning.
Thanks, Ghast!
Posted by: Acadian Feb 5 2016, 12:25 AM
Same here. Yesterday, Firefox, no prob.
Posted by: Lopov Feb 5 2016, 02:27 PM
I made sure to put my new username in my current sig over at Beth, just so there's no confusion.
Posted by: Renee Feb 5 2016, 02:43 PM
Hope Rohugh isn't around this time.
Time to bypass the ban.
Rohugh is still around, but maybe you'll slip right past the guards. GOod luck!
I made sure to put my new username in my current sig over at Beth, just so there's no confusion.I know, right? I can just imagine the hordes, the masses, the long line waiting to just claim the name ReneeGade.
And all of them will be disappointed I got there first. Posted by: Grits Feb 5 2016, 02:50 PM
Join the club of “Not Notorious Enough to have Someone Steal your Username.” NNESSU?
Posted by: bobg Feb 6 2016, 03:41 AM
I know, right? I can just imagine the hordes, the masses, the long line waiting to just claim the name ReneeGade.
And all of them will be disappointed I got there first. OK that explains why I had to use my old moniker instead the much cooler R.G. Hmmm. I just realized that is my initials too.
Posted by: tegeus-Cromis Feb 6 2016, 01:09 PM
Ended up registering just for the sake of reserving my username. After all, you don't know that you mightn't gain great notoriety in some distant future...
Oh, and Firefox worked just fine for me.
Posted by: treydog Feb 6 2016, 01:36 PM
Appears no one else wanted to be Treydog, either....
bobg- so thrilled to see you again! Best wishes to you and your Mrs., hope things improve.
If I don't say it enough (and I imagine I don't)- it has been a great honor to have so many wonderful people (and wonderful writers) come here and make Chorrol what it has become- just because I stomped my furry feet about the changes at T'Other Place Well- okay- more than that... but the honored part is most definitely true. Thank you all.
Posted by: Acadian Feb 6 2016, 02:53 PM
Treydog is right. BethSoft made some. . . less than satisfactory (at least to fanfic writers) changes in 2010 resulting in many of us coming here at the urging of treydog. We were affectionately called 'Treybabies'. So, will the upcoming changes result in a crop of 'Treygrandbabies'?
Posted by: mirocu Feb 6 2016, 04:18 PM
Treydog is right. BethSoft made some. . . less than satisfactory (at least to fanfic writers) changes in 2010 resulting in many of us coming here at the urging of treydog. We were affectionately called 'Treybabies'. So, will the upcoming changes result in a crop of 'Treygrandbabies'?
Maybe Rocubabies? I have been doing some recruting of my own..
Posted by: bobg Feb 6 2016, 11:45 PM
bobg- so thrilled to see you again! Best wishes to you and your Mrs., hope things improve.
Not as thrilled as I am to be acknowledged by you. I have always considered you a bright flame in a bonfire of brilliant writers. Thanks for your well wishes. We plug along, laugh when we can, cry when we must and thank god for it every day.
Posted by: mALX Feb 7 2016, 01:43 AM
Thank you for the update, mirocu. I did go look at Gstaff's thread, followed his instructions and registered. Happily, Acadian was available as a call sign and I had no problems. Not sure what it means exactly, but I am registered now. Lol.
mALX was still available,
I signed up as my decrepit self, but won't visit there again until I know the forums are active. Wanna link straight to 'em rather than contend with the Bethesda.net home page, which I have no interest in.
This.
Some notes that may have relevance to others:
I registered from my browser at home, and tried to login from work. It accepted the name and password, but sent me an email (to my home server) with the login link for the "new browser or device". It's likely that will happen any time you clear your cookies, so make sure the email address you supply the first time isn't temporary, or you might get locked out.
User names containing spaces aren't allowed, as the space acts as a delimiter in some of the interfaces, and the name would get truncated at the space. Presumable Pseron Wyrd has changed his, as he states he can get it. Only one non-alphanumeric character, too. Can't see any reason for that restriction. Accented characters should count as regular alphabetic ones.
Urk, my email / IP address about to change; and I just signed up.
This all just sounds too tedious. Though I'm mostly concerned about just two forums - OB Mods and the (frequently excellent) Construction Set forums. But it looks to me like The Assimilation Lab and TES Alliance (and Chorrol, of course!) can fill the gap mightily, so I just may not bother with Beth Forums at all once the change happens.
TESAlliance just changed their forums a few months ago too, I'm not thrilled with the changes
Hope Rohugh isn't around this time.
Time to bypass the ban.
Ended up registering just for the sake of reserving my username. After all, you don't know that you mightn't gain great notoriety in some distant future...
Oh, and Firefox worked just fine for me.
Yes, I already had one person try to impersonate me on here, didn't want to leave my name open for another horrible incident like that.
bobg- so thrilled to see you again! Best wishes to you and your Mrs., hope things improve.
Not as thrilled as I am to be acknowledged by you. I have always considered you a bright flame in a bonfire of brilliant writers. Thanks for your well wishes. We plug along, laugh when we can, cry when we must and thank god for it every day.
I also have wondered how your wife was doing and often thought of her; thought well wishes for her health.
Posted by: bobg Feb 8 2016, 06:46 AM
I also have wondered how your wife was doing and often thought of her; thought well wishes for her health.
Thank you for your kind thoughts and I have passed those on to my wife. Her stroke caused loss of control on her left side. She can walk slowly for short distances using a quad cane but is basically dependent on her wheelchair. She remembers your handle from our old fanfiction days and told me to tell you that she wishes I was still writing. (Not going to happen.)
I doubt I will use the new forum once it is up. It appears to not include the older games anyway and I'm not interested in ESO.
Posted by: Acadian Feb 12 2016, 03:31 PM
Curious about the timeline for the BethSoft changeover to new forums, I went looking for info. I started going backwards through the very long thread over there that discusses the new forum registration.
I found my answer in a post made yesterday by Rohugh (one of the mods there) -
So I guess there is not a definitive timeline yet.
Posted by: Kiln Feb 15 2016, 12:29 AM
I can't stress enough how much I dislike Rohugh. I'd go into detail but I'd have to ban myself for the graphic expletives I'd need to use to properly detail how much I can't stand him. Suffice to say, he's an arrogant nazi who thinks being a mod over there makes him special. If you've ever dealt with him I'm sorry because you get it.
Posted by: Darkness Eternal Feb 15 2016, 01:13 AM
Edited.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 15 2016, 02:08 AM
KingCoin is now reserved for meh.
Posted by: mALX Feb 15 2016, 05:27 AM
KingCoin is now reserved for meh.
Woo Hoo! I'm glad we will all be ourselves!
I also have wondered how your wife was doing and often thought of her; thought well wishes for her health.
Thank you for your kind thoughts and I have passed those on to my wife. Her stroke caused loss of control on her left side. She can walk slowly for short distances using a quad cane but is basically dependent on her wheelchair. She remembers your handle from our old fanfiction days and told me to tell you that she wishes I was still writing. (Not going to happen.)
I doubt I will use the new forum once it is up. It appears to not include the older games anyway and I'm not interested in ESO.
I fondly remember your writing too; your girls were both dear friends.
Posted by: bobg Feb 16 2016, 09:30 PM
Woo Hoo! I'm glad we will all be ourselves!
Indeed. At one time I played 'the Settlers' online and you had to enter a game through the server's chat room. Some hackers were able to enter vulgar comments which were attributed to someone else's chat login. That didn't bother me as much as regular chat people acting as if the login named was making those entries. When it happened to me, I didn't respond to those entries that purported to be from me but I definitely tore into those who acted like any of that was legitimate. Everybody knew what was going on. They just thought it would be fun to join in. It did result in some interesting challenge games.
Posted by: mirocu May 25 2016, 03:01 PM
I just made a thread discussing bethesda.net over at Bethsoft and it got immediately locked. I think this is a shame because we should be able to discuss the new forums at Bethsoft too, it shouldn´t just be at bethesda.net. Most people are still at Bethsoft and many do not like the new place so there is definitely a need for a discussion there. At least that´s how I feel about it.
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1602786-the-forums/ in case anyone wants to read it.
Posted by: mirocu Aug 3 2016, 02:07 PM
Apparently Bethesda is looking into another type of software for the new forums instead of using Jive. Nothing is sure yet though.
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1605324-bethnet-relaunching-with-new-forum-software/
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Aug 3 2016, 04:36 PM
Took them long enough. Anyone with a functioning brain could see that that mess they tried to pass as a forum would never be any good. How it even got to the point where they made it active I have no idea.
Posted by: Grits Aug 3 2016, 04:51 PM
Great news! I hope they get it right this time.
Posted by: mirocu Aug 4 2016, 07:06 AM
I just want to keep Bethsoft 
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Aug 4 2016, 07:31 AM
Yeah, they really don't need a new forum, they should just fix the one they have.
Posted by: mirocu Aug 4 2016, 07:33 AM
Someone said keep the forums separate from where they have mods, news etc instead of having all eggs in one basket. I think that´s not a bad idea.
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Aug 4 2016, 07:54 AM
It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).
Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.
But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*
Posted by: Kiln Aug 4 2016, 12:30 PM
At least they're not axing their forums like Bioware, which I can only assume is a bad sign.
Posted by: mirocu Aug 4 2016, 01:54 PM
Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.
But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*
Often enough it´s the cynics who tell the hard truth
Posted by: Kiln Aug 4 2016, 03:41 PM
It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).
Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.
But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*
Didn't see this post. I hadn't really considered this but it sounds plausible.
They're always welcome here.
Posted by: mALX Aug 4 2016, 06:59 PM
It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).
Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.
But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*
This is something that crossed my mind as well. We long term fans have more or less forced them to a standard that they used to enforce on themselves but no longer do. Maybe they are trying to break free of us "Fan-atics" and gear toward mass audiences that rake in much larger profits originally and then disappear after one playthrough so they don't have to spend so much time fixing the errors or explaining their lack of decent content.
(But maybe I'm also a cynic, who knows? )
Posted by: ghastley Aug 4 2016, 07:13 PM
A reboot on the current software would serve to clean out the inactive members, so that would be a reasonable idea. As long as there's an easy way to claim your member id, and retain it, all the old "registered to make one troll post" accounts could go away.
They'd need the same read-only archive of the old content, whichever way the future forums go.
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Aug 4 2016, 07:37 PM
It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).
Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.
But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*
This is something that crossed my mind as well. We long term fans have more or less forced them to a standard that they used to enforce on themselves but no longer do. Maybe they are trying to break free of us "Fan-atics" and gear toward mass audiences that rake in much larger profits originally and then disappear after one playthrough so they don't have to spend so much time fixing the errors or explaining their lack of decent content.
(But maybe I'm also a cynic, who knows? )
Well, since Oblivion and Skyrim were both judged against their predecessors and found lacking in many areas, it's pretty hard to deny that they're dumbing down their games. Systems and mechanics that used to require a modicum of forethought and planning(birthsigns, chance of failure, or classes, for instance), or that could cause problems if mistakes are made(attributes?) have been modified, stripped down, or flat-out removed. There's a definite trend in their games, and it's heading away from their previous target audience. It makes a certain amount of sense that they wouldn't want us on their new site if they're no longer making games for us.
Posted by: Kiln Aug 4 2016, 07:39 PM
It'd make a lot more sense than displacing an entire community like they're trying to do. Doing anything other than fixing the Bethsoft forums(it'd be nice to have a working search function over there) is just nuts. They've already got everything in place for running and managing the forums, a substantial memberbase that makes for a helpful community(and a free tech-support asset!).
Personally, I'm inclined to think that the move was always about purging the old guard. It would fit the trend in their games, for one thing, and reduce the criticism of their games on their forums, and the resulting conflicts(remember the Skyrim section shortly after release? *shudders*). And it would certainly fit the style of forum they seemed to be going for.
But maybe I'm just too much of a cynic *shrugs*
This is something that crossed my mind as well. We long term fans have more or less forced them to a standard that they used to enforce on themselves but no longer do. Maybe they are trying to break free of us "Fan-atics" and gear toward mass audiences that rake in much larger profits originally and then disappear after one playthrough so they don't have to spend so much time fixing the errors or explaining their lack of decent content.
(But maybe I'm also a cynic, who knows? )
Well, since Oblivion and Skyrim were both judged against their predecessors and found lacking in many areas, it's pretty hard to deny that they're dumbing down their games. Systems and mechanics that used to require a modicum of forethought and planning(birthsigns, chance of failure, or classes, for instance), or that could cause problems if mistakes are made(attributes?) have been modified, stripped down, or flat-out removed. There's a definite trend in their games, and it's heading away from their previous target audience. It makes a certain amount of sense that they wouldn't want us on their new site if they're no longer making games for us.
I wish I was disappointed but that forum has been so ridiculously heavily moderated for so long I haven't had a desire to go there for a loooong time.
Posted by: mALX Aug 4 2016, 09:02 PM
Well, since Oblivion and Skyrim were both judged against their predecessors and found lacking in many areas, it's pretty hard to deny that they're dumbing down their games. Systems and mechanics that used to require a modicum of forethought and planning(birthsigns, chance of failure, or classes, for instance), or that could cause problems if mistakes are made(attributes?) have been modified, stripped down, or flat-out removed. There's a definite trend in their games, and it's heading away from their previous target audience. It makes a certain amount of sense that they wouldn't want us on their new site if they're no longer making games for us.
Agreed.
Posted by: Winter Wolf Aug 5 2016, 07:41 AM
Hey, I have just realized that I am one of the 'Treybabies.' A proud 2010 Treybaby! All grown up at six years of age. 
Well, maybe not grown up.
Our doggie certainly did have a number of offspring appear during those tumultuous days of '10. How dare it when they tried to shut us off from the Oblivion fan-fiction! The indignation! I mean, I read about arrows flying across Chorrol, the city, not this site, lol and hitting the annoying Earana (and I mean the full width of Chorrol), mischief at the Academy with people hands being placed in water while they slept, axes and daedra smashing through the doorway into Jensine's Merchandise and the discovery that Simplicia the slow was inflicted with helljoint!
How else would I have discovered these things?
How else would I have so much fun reading these things if it wasn't for the creativity of the fantastic writers and members that shared the same passion for Oblivion? Unfortunately Beth have indeed moved away from that core beginning and reached out for a different target of audience...
Glad to hear that Beth.net is looking to reboot. The site was absolutely shocking for reading and posting.
I only used it to hunt down mods that I could add to Fallout 4, otherwise the site was pointless.
I agree that one reason was to clean out all the unused members. I remember scrolling through them one day years ago, they certainly did have a large number of one hit wonders posters.
Posted by: mALX Aug 5 2016, 01:34 PM
Hey, I have just realized that I am one of the 'Treybabies.' A proud 2010 Treybaby! All grown up at six years of age.
Well, maybe not grown up.
Our doggie certainly did have a number of offspring appear during those tumultuous days of '10. How dare it when they tried to shut us off from the Oblivion fan-fiction! The indignation! I mean, I read about arrows flying across Chorrol, the city, not this site, lol and hitting the annoying Earana (and I mean the full width of Chorrol), mischief at the Academy with people hands being placed in water while they slept, axes and daedra smashing through the doorway into Jensine's Merchandise and the discovery that Simplicia the slow was inflicted with helljoint!
How else would I have discovered these things?
How else would I have so much fun reading these things if it wasn't for the creativity of the fantastic writers and members that shared the same passion for Oblivion? Unfortunately Beth have indeed moved away from that core beginning and reached out for a different target of audience...
Glad to hear that Beth.net is looking to reboot. The site was absolutely shocking for reading and posting.
I only used it to hunt down mods that I could add to Fallout 4, otherwise the site was pointless.
I agree that one reason was to clean out all the unused members. I remember scrolling through them one day years ago, they certainly did have a large number of one hit
My original story lost 30 chapters when they changed the format in 2010. I don't know how they managed to only transfer two pages of a closed thread; but the stuff they lost was Eyja's attack on the Dark Brotherhood; Maxical meeting Foxy for the first time; and the death of Rona Hassildor; finding the Dwemer; meeting Kagronacl/Sage Vardengroet/Divayth Fyr/Clavicus Vile. All the OLD game places they visited are gone.
Posted by: ghastley Oct 25 2016, 02:36 PM
The latest announcement says that the SSE forums are being opened up on the new NodeBB site, rather than the one using Jive (which will be shut down later), so perhaps it won't be as bad as we were expecting. It also looks like the Skyrim forums for the 32-bit game will remain. The General Discussion forum at Bethesda.net has some more detail, too.
No announcements about Oblivion or earlier, presumably remaining, like "old" Skyrim.
Posted by: mirocu Oct 25 2016, 02:48 PM
Wouldn´t care even if I was paid to at this point. Thank the Aedra that Acadian and Renee (I think?) coaxed me to join up here
Posted by: Acadian Oct 25 2016, 03:15 PM
I was active on the OB forums there while I played OB. Similarly the Sky forums while I played Sky. Now that I'm playing ESO, I haven't been on the BethSoft forums for months. I was primarily there for game tips on my active game and the ESO forums are run by Zenimax.
Posted by: Grits Oct 25 2016, 08:58 PM
Thank you for the update, ghastley!
I plan to check out the new forums for SSE. I am so glad that they listened to the people who tried to make the old new forums work. That format was just awful. Hopefully the new new version will be better.
Posted by: ghastley Oct 25 2016, 09:09 PM
Unfortunately, we just get dumped straight into it, with no trial run. We'll know the best or worst on Thursday, it seems.
Posted by: mirocu Oct 27 2016, 06:25 PM
https://beta-community.bethesda.net/
Posted by: Cain Oct 27 2016, 06:40 PM
They're not half bad.
Posted by: mirocu Oct 27 2016, 06:43 PM
I have to admit, it does look quite good.
Posted by: Cain Oct 27 2016, 07:00 PM
I fear the inrush of the masses who will do nothing but gripe about it for several months before moving on.
Posted by: mirocu Oct 27 2016, 07:01 PM
One of the reasons I don´t have any plans to register
Posted by: Grits Oct 27 2016, 07:18 PM
So far (after one post, lol) I like it. I have heard from a number of people who will be playing Skyrim for the first time as SSE. Most of them were too young in 2011. I like to see a community get new life and energy, especially when it's as positive as the excitement I've seen.
Posted by: ghastley Oct 27 2016, 07:31 PM
I do note that there are forums for:
Skyrim SE
Oblivion
Morrowind
But nothing for "Skyrim classic" or whatever the 32-bit version is now called. I know they want to keep discussions separate, so people don't get confused between Skyrim and Skyrim, and what works in one but not the other. However, a simple redirect to the old site would be possible, wouldn't it? I suspect they'll get the problem they're trying to avoid, this way.
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Oct 27 2016, 07:58 PM
I don't know whether to laugh at Bethesda or cry right now. They're making the same mistake again, launching the forums before they're ready, because they're better than their first attempt. Even though their old forums are better than either of them.
Posted by: mirocu Oct 27 2016, 08:02 PM
I guess they haven´t lost their confidence
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Oct 27 2016, 08:05 PM
I guess they haven´t lost their confidence
Not the word I'd have chosen
Posted by: mirocu Oct 27 2016, 08:17 PM
Dare I ask for your word?
Posted by: ghastley Oct 27 2016, 08:20 PM
They won't find out what wrong until they launch them, so the big questions are whether they listen, and whether they can fix what we report as broken. I think the Jive stuff was hard to fix, rather than Beth weren't listening, so I'm hopeful.
Posted by: Cain Oct 27 2016, 08:22 PM
They needs a 'jump to first unread post' option.
Posted by: Grits Oct 27 2016, 08:24 PM
Check the top right, that's where I found it.
Added: once you're in the thread there should be a light blue box at the top right
Posted by: Cain Oct 27 2016, 08:29 PM
Check the top right, that's where I found it.
Added: once you're in the thread there should be a light blue box at the top right
Ah, that's an odd placement. Many thanks!
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Oct 27 2016, 08:33 PM
They won't find out what wrong until they launch them, so the big questions are whether they listen, and whether they can fix what we report as broken. I think the Jive stuff was hard to fix, rather than Beth weren't listening, so I'm hopeful.
Except that they know they're missing features that they should have, because they plan to add them later. They even say as much in the thread over at Bethsoft. This thing reminds me of the start of Star Trek Generations. I'm wondering if one of the Moderators is going to be unable to log in or something because some important feature won't be active until tuesday
Posted by: Cain Oct 27 2016, 08:37 PM
They won't find out what wrong until they launch them, so the big questions are whether they listen, and whether they can fix what we report as broken. I think the Jive stuff was hard to fix, rather than Beth weren't listening, so I'm hopeful.
Except that they know they're missing features that they should have, because they plan to add them later. They even say as much in the thread over at Bethsoft. This thing reminds me of the start of Star Trek Generations. I'm wondering if one of the Moderators is going to be unable to log in or something because some important feature won't be active until tuesday
The medical staff....doesn't arrive until Tuesday.
Posted by: mALX Oct 31 2016, 11:55 AM
https://beta-community.bethesda.net/
They need some background color, but seem to be working quickly and have some user friendliness from what I saw.
Do we need to "re-register" our accounts a third time for this new forum?
Posted by: mirocu Oct 31 2016, 11:56 AM
No, it uses the same account as the former Beth.net.
Posted by: mALX Oct 31 2016, 11:57 AM
No, it uses the same account as the former Beth.net.
Oh good. Now all I have to do is remember what I used and the password, lol.
Posted by: Lopov Nov 1 2016, 10:08 AM
Looks like there won't be any advanced PM system like it is on Beth (or here). All I can see is the chat function which remained from the first version but not an actual PM feature.
Posted by: mirocu Nov 1 2016, 10:19 AM
Looks like there won't be any advanced PM system like it is on Beth (or here). All I can see is the chat function which remained from the first version but not an actual PM feature.
They keep not selling this to me
Posted by: Lopov Nov 1 2016, 10:30 AM
Looks like there won't be any advanced PM system like it is on Beth (or here). All I can see is the chat function which remained from the first version but not an actual PM feature.
They keep not selling this to me
I only use the Beth forums for PMs these days, especially since they moved the FO section to Bethesda.net where it unfortunately 'died'. I doubt I'll be active on the new forums even when they launch in full.
Posted by: ghastley Nov 1 2016, 07:03 PM
Since Bethesda.net will be the only source for XBox1 mods, I'll probably post mine there once converted to SSE, and that will mean monitoring the forum there for feedback.
I note that there are more XB1 mods than PC there, implying that some mod-makers are using only the Nexus for the PC versions. I think I'll do that, too. I don't want to move off the Nexus, and supporting the same copy in two places would be a pain.
Posted by: mALX Nov 2 2016, 09:45 PM
Since Bethesda.net will be the only source for XBox1 mods, I'll probably post mine there once converted to SSE, and that will mean monitoring the forum there for feedback.
I note that there are more XB1 mods than PC there, implying that some mod-makers are using only the Nexus for the PC versions. I think I'll do that, too. I don't want to move off the Nexus, and supporting the same copy in two places would be a pain.
How do you convert them for the XB1? Isn't it a different code language, etc? I mean, what do you have to do for your mods to work on the consoles?
And by the way, that is exciting that people are already clamoring for your mods to be converted, congrats !!!
Posted by: ghastley Nov 2 2016, 10:23 PM
How do you convert them for the XB1? Isn't it a different code language, etc? I mean, what do you have to do for your mods to work on the consoles?
It's just a question of saving for XBox1 from the CK. It has extra options on the File menu for that. I've haven't yet worked out whether it's a "save and upload" or "save for upload".
There are also more menu options for the PC, one of which appears to include uploading to Bethesda.net. They may be "just save the esp", and "save the esp, and update my Load Order" or something similar, as you have the ability to launch the game for testing from inside the CK.
PC's and Xbox use the same CPU architecture, and PS4 may also, as that changed from PS3. But the mod files don't have any code that's compiled down that far. The pex files are interpreted by a Papyrus run-time, just like Java can run on any machine. PS4 has a bit extra to do for graphic conversion (no DirectX on PS4), but that's done as part of the save process.
Posted by: mALX Nov 5 2016, 01:04 PM
How do you convert them for the XB1? Isn't it a different code language, etc? I mean, what do you have to do for your mods to work on the consoles?
It's just a question of saving for XBox1 from the CK. It has extra options on the File menu for that. I've haven't yet worked out whether it's a "save and upload" or "save for upload".
There are also more menu options for the PC, one of which appears to include uploading to Bethesda.net. They may be "just save the esp", and "save the esp, and update my Load Order" or something similar, as you have the ability to launch the game for testing from inside the CK.
PC's and Xbox use the same CPU architecture, and PS4 may also, as that changed from PS3. But the mod files don't have any code that's compiled down that far. The pex files are interpreted by a Papyrus run-time, just like Java can run on any machine. PS4 has a bit extra to do for graphic conversion (no DirectX on PS4), but that's done as part of the save process.
So, does this mean you don't have to actually change anything about the mods, just load them up to the Bethnet site?
Posted by: ghastley Nov 5 2016, 03:09 PM
I don't know what the CK is doing differently, but no, I don't need to change anything, however ...
The CK will "fix" things that are different in SE, so there's still some work to do finding out what happened when it loaded up. It made poor Uzi's little head explode, until I found the change to the mouth she was using. It uses a new nif format, and saves the FaceGen data for you automatically (using that new format), so I had a lot of work opening and re-saving before her head was saved properly.
I still have to wait before I publish that piece, as it would be cruel to let people adopt her before she can live at the Stronghold. That part needs Hearthfires Multiple Adoptions, which hasn't been ported yet, possibly because it needs SKSE64.
I'm working on Argonian Hearthfires now. So there's a Spreads-her-Thighs for Special Edition, who's struggling up to level 14 so she can do all the quests.
Posted by: mALX Nov 5 2016, 03:55 PM
I don't know what the CK is doing differently, but no, I don't need to change anything, however ...
The CK will "fix" things that are different in SE, so there's still some work to do finding out what happened when it loaded up. It made poor Uzi's little head explode, until I found the change to the mouth she was using. It uses a new nif format, and saves the FaceGen data for you automatically (using that new format), so I had a lot of work opening and re-saving before her head was saved properly.
I still have to wait before I publish that piece, as it would be cruel to let people adopt her before she can live at the Stronghold. That part needs Hearthfires Multiple Adoptions, which hasn't been ported yet, possibly because it needs SKSE64.
I'm working on Argonian Hearthfires now. So there's a Spreads-her-Thighs for Special Edition, who's struggling up to level 14 so she can do all the quests.
Child: "Would you like to adopt me and give me a new home?"
Prospective adopter: "I would love for you to come home with me, I will be your Pa and we will be a family!"
Child: "KABOOM!" (head explodes)
Prospective adopter: *sigh* (goes to Gweden "Inn") ... "Hello there, Spreads-her-Thighs!" (lays 20 gold on nightstand) "The usual, please..."
Posted by: ghastley Nov 7 2016, 05:13 PM
The primary site and the mods server use one avatar image, but the new forums have another. At some point, I need to get them reconciled, but in the meantime, Diablita's getting some air-time.
I'm amazed at the rate that XBox users are downloading mods. Bosmer Heartfires has just about caught up to the total downloads on PC, old and new combined!
What I don't like about the Bethesda mod site is that I can't link to the Fake Wiki for the extra information that won't fit in the 2500 word description. I'm not happy about the way the "box-cover" image gets cropped from its already small 260x260 when displayed. It's hard to figure if title text will show properly. And why 1315x740 for screenshots? That's a strange size to pick, that doesn't get used for anything else.
Notifications are a bit of a flood, too. There may be ways of turning some of it off, but I need to distinguish questions that need answering from like/rating/follow stuff that needs no response.
Edit: And it's now PC- 146+50=196; XB1-926 for the Bosmer one. Similar numbers for the others.
Posted by: ghastley Nov 10 2016, 07:39 PM
Don't they teach logic in schools any more?
There's a thread over at Bethesda.net that claims that all crashes are caused by shortage of memory, "because when I run out of memory, it always crashes".
I replied that logic doesn't work like that. The Ancient Greeks understood that; I am ancient, therefore I am Greek, and I understand. It's only logical.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Nov 10 2016, 07:54 PM
Don't they teach logic in schools any more?
There's a thread over at Bethesda.net that claims that all crashes are caused by shortage of memory, "because when I run out of memory, it always crashes".
I replied that logic doesn't work like that. The Ancient Greeks understood that; I am ancient, therefore I am Greek, and I understand. It's only logical.
Logic and reason have nothing to do with Bethesda.net,
'Tis a silly place.
Posted by: mirocu Mar 20 2017, 03:40 PM
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1605324-bethnet-relaunching-with-new-forum-software/page-16#entry25331908
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Mar 20 2017, 05:40 PM
http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1605324-bethnet-relaunching-with-new-forum-software/page-16#entry25331908
End of an era.
Posted by: Decrepit Apr 22 2017, 12:17 AM
Just visited the "old" official forums. Saw an official post stating that they will be going "read only" 28 April 2017.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 22 2017, 12:53 AM
Just visited the "old" official forums. Saw an official post stating that they will be going "read only" 28 April 2017.
Posted by: mALX Apr 22 2017, 08:23 AM
Just visited the "old" official forums. Saw an official post stating that they will be going "read only" 28 April 2017.
*mALX wipes tear from eye*
Posted by: mirocu Apr 22 2017, 08:28 AM
End of an era.
At least I did get on my tenth year so there's that. I guess the place has run its course for me but I'm still gonna miss it, and .net is definitely not a substitute.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 22 2017, 08:43 AM
Lol, Khajiit posted this on the update thread over there:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE
Thought it was fitting
Posted by: mALX Apr 22 2017, 02:46 PM
Lol, Khajiit posted this on the update thread over there:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE
Thought it was fitting
Aw, one of my favorite songs!
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 22 2017, 04:39 PM
Lol, Khajiit posted this on the update thread over there:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE
Thought it was fitting
Aw, one of my favorite songs!
Khajiit isn't a huge G'n'R fan, but he does like Cold November Rain, Knockin' on Heaven's Door, and Welcome to the Jungle.
Posted by: ghastley Apr 28 2017, 06:10 PM
The old forums just went read-only as I was using them. I'd replied to a topic, then went to do the same on another, and the reply, quote and similar buttons had gone. Spooky!!
Correction: It appears that I can still report a post, and edit my old posts (just not create a new one).
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 28 2017, 06:15 PM
A moment of silence for Bethsoft forums.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hZY5DBmgC_A
Posted by: mirocu Apr 28 2017, 06:29 PM
Unless the new place and my mind change drastically for the better, Bethnet will not see me or my feathers.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 28 2017, 06:42 PM
Unless the new place and my mind change drastically for the better, Bethnet will not see me or my feathers.
Well, Khajiit got to where he was tired of discussing speculation on new games and was primarily posting in the community discussion forum. He never felt as comfortable there as he does here with sharing his characters' goings on either. If they get a community discussion forum over there, this one will probably still post regularly, but until then Chorrol will be Khajiit's one and only Bethesda game forum.
Posted by: mirocu Apr 28 2017, 06:47 PM
I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 28 2017, 06:58 PM
I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better
Lol, see good in bad, good philosophy! Wise man say, it doesn't rain everyday!
Posted by: mirocu Apr 28 2017, 07:05 PM
And wise farmer say; rain is good
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 28 2017, 07:24 PM
And wise farmer say; rain is good
As with everything, moderation!
Posted by: Decrepit Apr 28 2017, 07:46 PM
I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better
Participated with some regularity in two Beth-centric forums since my arrival here, then added a third to give bethesda.net a fair shake. The count now stands at two again. Whether two or three or however many, for the most part my contributions can be copied and pasted from one forum to next with little to no alteration. Yes, they are equally incoherent wherever you chance upon them.
I once prepared a good many posts beforehand in my word-processor of choice, giving them thought and polish before seen online. Alas for all parties concerned, those days seem all but behind me. I just don't often possess the mental energy and/or sticktoitiveness I once did. I almost always wing it these days, subjecting all and sundry to my many brain farts and honest flubs.
On a slightly sad note, I moved the now defunct official forum from its second-spot position on my Firefox "new tab" link page. For the time being it remains in a lower position. But the link page houses only twelve sites. When next something new needs a spot on the page, the "good old" forum is the logical link to remove. Maybe I'll feel less nostalgically attached to the old forum by then.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 28 2017, 07:52 PM
I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better
Participated with some regularity in two Beth-centric forums since my arrival here, then added a third to give bethesda.net a fair shake. The count now stands at two again. Whether two or three or however many, for the most part my contributions can be copied and pasted from one forum to next with little to no alteration. Yes, they are equally incoherent wherever you chance upon them.
I once prepared a good many posts beforehand in my word-processor of choice, giving them thought and polish before seen online. Alas for all parties concerned, those days seem all but behind me. I just don't often possess the mental energy and/or sticktoitiveness I once did. I almost always wing it these days, subjecting all and sundry to my many brain farts and honest flubs.
On a slightly sad note, I moved the now defunct official forum from its second-spot position on my Firefox "new tab" link page. For the time being it remains in a lower position. But the link page houses only twelve sites. When next something new needs a spot on the page, the "good old" forum is the logical link to remove. Maybe I'll feel less nostalgically attached to the old forum by then.
Well Khajiit finds your posts easy to understand and coherent. This one had a similar dilemma today. He was going to delete the Bethsoft bookmark on his phone but just couldn't do it.
Posted by: mirocu Apr 28 2017, 07:56 PM
I will keep my bookmark and have in fact added more. I like going back and browse around
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 28 2017, 07:58 PM
I will keep my bookmark and have in fact added more. I like going back and browse around
Khajiit has decided too as well!
Posted by: Acadian Apr 28 2017, 08:52 PM
It's sad indeed but less so for me I think. Buffy and I only live in one game at a time and our current home is ESO. So the only game I have installed is ESO - made by Zenimax. So I just belong to Chorrol, Zen Official forums and Cain's wonderful site over at Haven.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 28 2017, 09:11 PM
It's sad indeed but less so for me I think. Buffy and I only live in one game at a time and our current home is ESO. So the only game I have installed is ESO - made by Zenimax. So I just belong to Chorrol, Zen Official forums and Cain's wonderful site over at Haven.
Khajiit should probably join the Zen forums for ESO purposes.
Posted by: Acadian Apr 28 2017, 09:17 PM
The Zen official forums are quite a bit like the old BethSoft forums. Easy to use, loads of members and tons of expert info. Also like the BethSoft forums, plenty of ungracious members as well. Lol.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 28 2017, 09:22 PM
The Zen official forums are quite a bit like the old BethSoft forums. Easy to use, loads of members and tons of expert info. Also like the BethSoft forums, plenty of ungracious members as well. Lol.
Meh, Khajiit can ignore the ungracious ones, lol
Posted by: Decrepit Apr 29 2017, 02:43 AM
Discovered the oddest thing. Visited the now defunct "old" forums while ago thinking to copy and past a recent thread entry into Bethesda.net. Finding the entry in question, I was surprised to see its EDIT button intact. The button works! I was able to edit the post. I did not, however, attempt to SAVE the edit. That button remains too, but I didn't want to risk screwing things up should it not behave as expected.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 29 2017, 04:32 PM
Discovered the oddest thing. Visited the now defunct "old" forums while ago thinking to copy and past a recent thread entry into Bethesda.net. Finding the entry in question, I was surprised to see its EDIT button intact. The button works! I was able to edit the post. I did not, however, attempt to SAVE the edit. That button remains too, but I didn't want to risk screwing things up should it not behave as expected.
Yeah, this one guesses they wanted folks to be able to edit stuff. In theory you could edit your last post over there and start brand new conversations (if anyone was paying attention).
Posted by: Dark Reaper Apr 29 2017, 10:18 PM
Well I've migrated from the old forums to the new one. Seems like the old days over there just got to get use to the new layout, I only wish they had a Community Discussion there cause there's not a lot of things about Elder Scrolls I can talk about that hasn't already been said.
Posted by: Crimson Paladin Apr 30 2017, 08:59 AM
Right now I'm waiting/hoping for the still-active TES roleplayers to migrate over. I haven't seen any RPing going on in the new forums as of yet.
Posted by: mirocu Apr 30 2017, 02:21 PM
Well I've migrated from the old forums to the new one. Seems like the old days over there just got to get use to the new layout, I only wish they had a Community Discussion there cause there's not a lot of things about Elder Scrolls I can talk about that hasn't already been said.
I can't stand the layout and frankly I don't want to get used to it. And if it was a good layout I wouldn't have to.
So if you ever want my opinion or comments you need to, and I quote Scorpion; "GET OVER HERE!"
Posted by: Callidus Thorn Apr 30 2017, 02:43 PM
Right now I'm waiting/hoping for the still-active TES roleplayers to migrate over. I haven't seen any RPing going on in the new forums as of yet.
Bah! Bring 'em over here. Maybe then we could kick the RP section back to life.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 30 2017, 04:50 PM
Yeah, Khajiit was really hoping we'd get more Bethsoft folks here than we seem to have. It's practically a twin of the Bethsoft forums, so this one doesn't understand why more people aren't wanting to join.
Posted by: vometia Apr 30 2017, 08:38 PM
Yeah, Khajiit was really hoping we'd get more Bethsoft folks here than we seem to have. It's practically a twin of the Bethsoft forums, so this one doesn't understand why more people aren't wanting to join.
Some of us are just stubborn. I don't like change. But I especially don't like bethesda.net: ew.
Posted by: mirocu Apr 30 2017, 09:20 PM
Yeah, Bethnet is too bad for me to adapt to..
Also; hi, vometia
Posted by: Dark Reaper Apr 30 2017, 09:33 PM
Some of us are just stubborn. I don't like change. But I especially don't like bethesda.net: ew.
Ah nice to see a familiar face join us https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/4/4b/Fishy_stick.png/revision/latest?cb=20130514235330 .
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Apr 30 2017, 09:37 PM
Yeah, Khajiit was really hoping we'd get more Bethsoft folks here than we seem to have. It's practically a twin of the Bethsoft forums, so this one doesn't understand why more people aren't wanting to join.
Some of us are just stubborn. I don't like change. But I especially don't like bethesda.net: ew.
Yayyy vometia! Khajiit said hi to you in the Everything Thread!
Posted by: Cain May 2 2017, 03:06 PM
We appreciate the kind sentiment. I'm glad to be a member here at Chorrol, too!Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 3 2017, 08:08 PM
So https://bethesda.net/en/article/6jClbRqGhUMWo0uqeq0CEi/join-us-in-bethesdaland-for-our-e3-2017-showcase was on Bethesda.net. Khajiit wonders what they will be showing this year. Probably Quake, ugh.
Posted by: Dark Reaper May 4 2017, 12:18 AM
So https://bethesda.net/en/article/6jClbRqGhUMWo0uqeq0CEi/join-us-in-bethesdaland-for-our-e3-2017-showcase was on Bethesda.net. Khajiit wonders what they will be showing this year. Probably Quake, ugh.
Bethesdaland huh---Finally a place where I can pray to the Nine Divines or Daedras
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Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk May 4 2017, 03:15 PM
YES...you mortal fools thought I was gone with the old forums, but I told you I would be back.
I...LIVE AGAIN. AHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHAH!
Ahem...
Well, hello, Chorrol forums. Good to see some familiar faces here. Hope some more you migrate over to bethesda.net as well.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 4 2017, 04:11 PM
YES...you mortal fools thought I was gone with the old forums, but I told you I would be back.
I...LIVE AGAIN. AHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHAH!
Ahem...
Well, hello, Chorrol forums. Good to see some familiar faces here. Hope some more you migrate over to bethesda.net as well.
Rader!!! Good to see you! Welcome to Chorrol!
Posted by: Cain May 4 2017, 04:45 PM
Thou shalt not speak of the abyss.
Posted by: mALX May 4 2017, 06:19 PM
Unless the new place and my mind change drastically for the better, Bethnet will not see me or my feathers.
Or my bushy tail!
I've had as many as three forums going and for a long time too, only with a different third forum. Now I'm down to two which perhaps will make my focus a bit better
Participated with some regularity in two Beth-centric forums since my arrival here, then added a third to give bethesda.net a fair shake. The count now stands at two again. Whether two or three or however many, for the most part my contributions can be copied and pasted from one forum to next with little to no alteration. Yes, they are equally incoherent wherever you chance upon them.
I once prepared a good many posts beforehand in my word-processor of choice, giving them thought and polish before seen online. Alas for all parties concerned, those days seem all but behind me. I just don't often possess the mental energy and/or sticktoitiveness I once did. I almost always wing it these days, subjecting all and sundry to my many brain farts and honest flubs.
On a slightly sad note, I moved the now defunct official forum from its second-spot position on my Firefox "new tab" link page. For the time being it remains in a lower position. But the link page houses only twelve sites. When next something new needs a spot on the page, the "good old" forum is the logical link to remove. Maybe I'll feel less nostalgically attached to the old forum by then.
I can't imagine your planned pennings being any better than this, and you are always an excellent read!
It's sad indeed but less so for me I think. Buffy and I only live in one game at a time and our current home is ESO. So the only game I have installed is ESO - made by Zenimax. So I just belong to Chorrol, Zen Official forums and Cain's wonderful site over at Haven.
Khajiit should probably join the Zen forums for ESO purposes.
They are hugely informative to help you hone your character's build/skills.
Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk May 4 2017, 06:27 PM
YES...you mortal fools thought I was gone with the old forums, but I told you I would be back.
I...LIVE AGAIN. AHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHAH!
Ahem...
Well, hello, Chorrol forums. Good to see some familiar faces here. Hope some more you migrate over to bethesda.net as well.
Rader!!! Good to see you! Welcome to Chorrol!
Thank you, Desertwalker. Good to see you again.
Thou shalt not speak of the abyss.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 4 2017, 06:50 PM
It's sad indeed but less so for me I think. Buffy and I only live in one game at a time and our current home is ESO. So the only game I have installed is ESO - made by Zenimax. So I just belong to Chorrol, Zen Official forums and Cain's wonderful site over at Haven.
Khajiit should probably join the Zen forums for ESO purposes.
They are hugely informative to help you hone your character's build/skills.
Good to know, thanks!
Also, it has been too long since you posted a squirrel pic!
Posted by: mALX May 4 2017, 08:20 PM
It's sad indeed but less so for me I think. Buffy and I only live in one game at a time and our current home is ESO. So the only game I have installed is ESO - made by Zenimax. So I just belong to Chorrol, Zen Official forums and Cain's wonderful site over at Haven.
Khajiit should probably join the Zen forums for ESO purposes.
They are hugely informative to help you hone your character's build/skills.
Good to know, thanks!
Also, it has been too long since you posted a squirrel pic!
Posted by: Renee May 4 2017, 08:50 PM
Well, hello, Chorrol forums. Good to see some familiar faces here. Hope some more you migrate over to bethesda.net as well.
Hey Raider! Good to see you here at Chorrol. You are lucky to have made it; Turija was also trying to join here but kept not seeing any validation email from Chorrol in his inbox for some reason.
Posted by: ghastley May 4 2017, 08:56 PM
Well, hello, Chorrol forums. Good to see some familiar faces here. Hope some more you migrate over to bethesda.net as well.
I'm getting the impression that you need to run on an XBox1 to be welcome there, unless you're going to create that mod I'm demanding!
I note that we're both now immortalized on the frozen http://forums.bethsoft.com/forum/13-the-elder-scrolls/ as nobody else (except staff) can reply. I still visit, as the PM's didn't get turned off, and I had a conversation going about a Skyrim mod someone was trying to create.
Posted by: Decrepit May 4 2017, 09:42 PM
Well, hello, Chorrol forums. Good to see some familiar faces here. Hope some more you migrate over to bethesda.net as well.
I'm getting the impression that you need to run on an XBox1 to be welcome there, unless you're going to create that mod I'm demanding!
I note that we're both now immortalized on the frozen http://forums.bethsoft.com/forum/13-the-elder-scrolls/ as nobody else (except staff) can reply. I still visit, as the PM's didn't get turned off, and I had a conversation going about a Skyrim mod someone was trying to create.
Along these lines, I hold the dubious honor of having posted final entries in two threads; What Are You Reading Now? (Community Discussion) and Character Updates #18 (Oblivion General Discussion). That being the case, and us being allowed to EDIT our posts there for the time being, I have been adding new info to those two final posts to keep them up to date. Silliness I know, since no one is likely to see the new info, but it somehow makes it seems as if the old forums are not yet totally kaput. Besides, it's simply a matter of copy and pasting equivalent entries from here, with maybe a slight change every now and again.
Posted by: Renee May 4 2017, 10:29 PM
Holy [censored].
Okay, I had no idea the old official forums are now closed. *facepalm* I just went and read some posts and Thank goodness for Chorrol.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 4 2017, 11:11 PM
Thank goodness for Chorrol.Indeed!
Posted by: Crimson Paladin May 5 2017, 02:35 AM
I haven't been on there much, but I ought to participate in the new lore forum, since I've been seeing some old faces over there.
Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk May 5 2017, 03:39 AM
Well, hello, Chorrol forums. Good to see some familiar faces here. Hope some more you migrate over to bethesda.net as well.
Hey Raider! Good to see you here at Chorrol. You are lucky to have made it; Turija was also trying to join here but kept not seeing any validation email from Chorrol in his inbox for some reason.
Hi Renee.
Yeah, I was surprised I was able to get through so quickly. Although are my replies getting vetted? They seem to take a bit to actually post.Well, hello, Chorrol forums. Good to see some familiar faces here. Hope some more you migrate over to bethesda.net as well.
I'm getting the impression that you need to run on an XBox1 to be welcome there, unless you're going to create that mod I'm demanding!
I note that we're both now immortalized on the frozen http://forums.bethsoft.com/forum/13-the-elder-scrolls/ as nobody else (except staff) can reply. I still visit, as the PM's didn't get turned off, and I had a conversation going about a Skyrim mod someone was trying to create.
Ha, I noticed that there are a few functions available still too. Kind of cool to see my avatar is the last to reply in the Past Elder Scrolls Games subforum. I realized you can edit, but I haven't tried it yet. I'm guessing that is not a function we are supposed to still have.
Posted by: Acadian May 5 2017, 04:15 AM
Rader - Yes, your posts are still hidden until approved by a Mod. I've asked the Admins to lift the vetting restrictions on you, Crimson Paladin and vometia. Sorry it is taking awhile but as soon as they see my request, it'll only take a moment for them to adjust your accounts. In the meantime, I'll be frequently checking for new posts from you guys to help minimize your posting delays. Once the Admins lift that restriction, your PM system will come up on line also.
Sorry again for the robust spambot stuff. We get numerous bots trying to join/post every day so, though painful, the restrictions are helpful.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 5 2017, 04:21 AM
C-ute!
Posted by: mirocu May 5 2017, 12:11 PM
mALX is always c-ute
Posted by: RaderOfTheLostArk May 5 2017, 02:19 PM
Rader - Yes, your posts are still hidden until approved by a Mod. I've asked the Admins to lift the vetting restrictions on you, Crimson Paladin and vometia. Sorry it is taking awhile but as soon as they see my request, it'll only take a moment for them to adjust your accounts. In the meantime, I'll be frequently checking for new posts from you guys to help minimize your posting delays. Once the Admins lift that restriction, your PM system will come up on line also.
Sorry again for the robust spambot stuff. We get numerous bots trying to join/post every day so, though painful, the restrictions are helpful.
Appreciate it. I understand the need for it. I don't get why people get a kick out of making spambots for forums.
Posted by: monkeyemoness May 8 2017, 01:46 AM
visiting that place reinforces my belief that "Gamers" need to die
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 8 2017, 02:01 AM
visiting that place reinforces my belief that "Gamers" need to die
Posted by: Dark Reaper May 13 2017, 11:09 PM
Apparently Ho-ho-ho...is censored on Bethesda.Net. 
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 14 2017, 12:31 AM
Apparently Ho-ho-ho...is censored on Bethesda.Net.
Yeah they wouldn't want you being able to call anyone a ho.
Posted by: Dark Reaper May 14 2017, 01:09 AM
Yeah they wouldn't want you being able to call anyone a ho.
Well its making my topic Now I have a Switch http://i50.tinypic.com/4sle82.jpg look like I was swearing. Ugh Bethesda
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Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit May 14 2017, 01:17 AM
Yeah they wouldn't want you being able to call anyone a ho.
Well its making my topic Now I have a Switch http://i50.tinypic.com/4sle82.jpg look like I was swearing. Ugh Bethesda
."HAAAAANNNS!!"
Posted by: Dark Reaper May 14 2017, 01:36 AM
"HAAAAANNNS!!"
Tell Carl his brother won't be getting one for Christmas.
Posted by: mirocu May 14 2017, 07:57 AM
Apparently Ho-ho-ho...is censored on Bethesda.Net.
*engages in the greatest of facepalms*
Posted by: Dark Reaper May 14 2017, 03:38 PM
*engages in the greatest of facepalms*
Tell me about it lol
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Posted by: monkeyemoness May 14 2017, 03:43 PM
You ho.
Honestly, nothing will be as bad as censoring parts of words because they contain letters that make up a naughty word.
Posted by: mALX May 14 2017, 03:51 PM
You ho.
Honestly, nothing will be as bad as censoring parts of words because they contain letters that make up a naughty word.
Ditto.
Posted by: Cain May 15 2017, 05:51 PM
That sounds like a simple fix, too. You can add whatever word you want to board filters, and usually there is an option for exact match only.
It's but a few clicks of the mouse to correct.
Posted by: mirocu May 15 2017, 07:14 PM
That sounds like a simple fix, too. You can add whatever word you want to board filters, and usually there is an option for exact match only.
It's but a few clicks of the mouse to correct.
Too much work for Bethesda. They'll just wait until a modder fixes it
Posted by: Decrepit Jun 16 2017, 05:12 PM
The Oblivion sub-forums there are still all but dead. The Mods sub-forum has few "official" individual mod threads. I had hope that that sub-forum at least would show steady activity. How are we supposed to keep abreast of new releases and updates/patches for existing mods? Has some other forum usurped that function? The Oblivion General Discussion sub-forum is little if any better off. Heck, its somewhat recently begun Screenshots thread appears to be locked. Still no forum-wide Community Discussion forum either. Gotta admit I don't help matters any, rarely contributing anything. It's just not an inviting place the way its set up. I'd likely participate more often it was more active, but at this stage I question if that will ever happen. Are sub-forums for more recently released Beth titles more active????
Posted by: ghastley Jun 16 2017, 06:11 PM
The Skyrim ones seem to be swamped with Xbox1 users demanding more free content. In particular, there are a lot of requests for somebody else to port PC mods over, even after the author has declined to do so. It's bad enough for me to decide that I'll not port anything new I create to Xbox1, nor allow anyone else to do so. Fortunately my mods are too demanding of the player (Build Your Own? Why can't the mod do that for me?) to be very popular.
There are a number of PC players and Mod Authors there, but I suspect the numbers are dwindling in the face of the toxic atmosphere from the Xbox1 people. PS4 users often chime in to blame Bethesda for Sony's restrictions on mods, which just makes it worse. It's that constant whine that makes me think the Creation Club is an attempt to get around the Sony issue.
The Oblivion forums probably suffer from the state of the others. The Screenshot thread was closed at Renee's request, with a "please start a fresh one" at the end.
Several posters have also made the point that the editor is less friendly on the new board, and a lot of content they intended to bring over can't be added the way they needed to. and there aren't any stickies, so stuff ages off, regardless of how much it's read, if it's not constantly updated. So they gave up.
Posted by: mirocu Jun 17 2017, 03:06 PM
Glad I never boarded that ship. But how could I have, it was already sinking while still in docks
Posted by: Acadian Jun 17 2017, 03:27 PM
Yeah, when I looked around over there it just confused the heck out of me. Since my current game is ESO and their forum is run by Zenimax, I gave up on the official BethSoft forums. Still not sure why they broke a good thing.
Posted by: TheCheshireKhajiit Jun 17 2017, 03:30 PM
Yeah it's a mess. And no General Discussion! Deal. Breaker.
Posted by: mirocu Jun 17 2017, 03:32 PM
Still not sure why they broke a good thing.
1. Because of money
2. Because of money
3. Because of money
-Take yer pick....
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