I don't know if anyone else has received this in the mail, but my hubby Cain got 2 free game guides and 1 extra disk with his subscription to PC Gamer magazine (which comes every month with a disk loaded with game trials & utilities) and on the disk was a download of the Morrowind mod Giants Ultimate 2.7.1 by Pumaman.
I am making a thread about this because I remember someone saying in discussion here that Bethesda ought to start recognizing the better mods made by fans for Morrowind and Oblivion and publish them with the creators name.
PC Gamer seems to have gotten the idea because here for the public is the most downloaded mod of Morrowind - so they say - and this is also wonderful advertisement for Morrowind and might get even a brand new generation of players for MW who had previously not heard of or tried the game.
I don't know if Pumaman is getting any money with this inclusion of his mod on the PC Gamer disk, but I hope he is - especially considering how Bethesda Gaming Company is now charging $2 for horse armor, and such. There was a guy at Ebay who was charging $10 a pop for sending mods to people that he didn't make (he was warned to desist.) But if the Bethesda devs are going to nickel and dime fans for the content they forgot to put in Oblivion instead of giving it freely like "Bitter Coast Sounds" mod, etc. for Morrowind; then why shouldn't all of us modders for Oblivion get on the bandwagon and make some money for our work as well. If the giving and sharing spirit of Tamriel is gone = let's ALL profit.
Now I've gone offtrack from what I wanted to say .... which is, what are your thoughts on this Morrowind player's mod being included on the PC Gamer disk?
Anyone who still plays Morrowind and would like to check out Giants can do so at this http://morepumaman.freehomepage.com/
Yeh, good thought HyPNO. I always loved the sharing feeling of community that surrounded the modder and modelers of Morrowind. I'm not sure if it's going to be the same for Oblivion or not. Hope so.
I suppose thats pretty good. As Hypno said, its an honour, the most important thing is that his mod has been recognised by a very well respected magazine. Still I always thought when I downloaded pc mods that the only reward these guys/gals got was the satisfaction of people having great fun with something they worked very hard to do. Something I think many developers of today have forgot.
Now Im not having a dig a Bethesda personally, but its pretty damn obvious the orrery and horse armour mods were plucked out of the final game and sold for a bit of extra cash. I imagine the wizards tower was too, but I let that slip since its slightly more useful than the other two. Still its good to be reminded that there are modders out there willing to put time and effort in for the love of the game, and not the cash. I hope Pumaman wasnt paid for that inclusion, but I do hope he feels very proud.
Good Luck Ibis !!! ![]()
I hope you won't be much absent for a long, but take your time, and learn the job properly. I also think it's a very good thing you want to master such a powerful tool like 3Ds Max. I hope we (mod users) will see some really great things made by you. ![]()
Work hard, and more importantly have fun !!!
You know what's interesting? We have a load of Voice Actors, Writers, Programmers, Artists, Thinkers, Leaders, and everything else (nearly) So Why don't WE DEVELOP our own game? I bet we could all work together to do it!
Edit: That was off topic, here's my thoughts on Giants: It's interesting, it's premium work and the guy SHOULD get credit for it. (Big time)
That's a great idea too, DarkHunter. I have heard of small games here and there which were made by small groups of people or smaller companies or corporations that they form for the purpose. I've seen some featured in the grading pages of PC Gamer from time to time. There was one that was made entirely by just 2 guys, but it took them a really long time at it, like 2 years or something.
It is entirely possible with the Morrowind editor to use the basic shapes, etc. of Morrowind but make an .esm that is entirely independent of Morrowind. But of course, Bethersda would own the rights to that because it would be their models.
But you are right, there are enough of every type creative person neccessary for gaming right here to create a game from scratch. Organization and communication would probably be the hardest parts of getting it started.
We have Neela's amazing skills with Poser (or whatever) to help us make new meshs/models
That is what people do with the big TCs, it is just a lot of people who get together and try to make a game, using TES as a base because there isn't many coders out there. 95% of TCs disappear because vital members become inactive, or lack support, or go somewhere else. The big reason for this is because everyone has different ideas and vision for a game, the successful TCs are the popular visions like Tamrial rebuilt and LOTR which share a common vision with a lot of people, if you want to make a TC then you have to ask "Does anyone else have the exact same idea as me?", if the answer is no then its not going to work. I'd quite like to make a warhammer fantasy mod where you can play as any of the races and behave just like a hero would in warhammer, and you can try to take over the entire world but the opposing forces would try to take back their cities and if you got too big then you would have trouble controlling your empire because of rebellions and your own overly ambitious generals. But of course that would take years so its just a dream
Well Pisces,
Do you think http://www.vvardenfell.org/ will make what they're intending?
Thanks for the well wishes for school HyPNO and I just adore the new Avvy. So cute.
Yes, Pisces ... the best examples of the work being done with TESCS from Morrowind are Tamriel Rebuilt and LOTR. I heard somewhere though that LOTR ran into copyright problems and also that Tamriel Rebuilt are going to continue their project with the Oblivion TESCS. Don't know if that's true or rumor though.
I haven't been keeping track of LOTR to be honest, it was over a year since I last checked up on them. Tamrial rebuilt is doing pretty well, they are still making the surrounding morrowind province in TES3, and they are starting hammerfell (I think) in TES4. I gather they are almost done with MW, but I don't know.
Hyno: I'd imagine they will keep going fine as long as they keep their publicity up, they have to compete for talent with tamrial rebuilt. Though I don't know much about them, Silgrad tower team has done well.
I couldn't make an accurate prediction without having a big talk with all the leaders and read all the story, and even after that it would just be an educated guess.
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