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jack cloudy |
Mar 26 2008, 10:23 PM
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Yes, condolences.  Ya know, I really feel sorry for you both, but just saying condolences doesn't quite have the load I want it to have. At least I had the 'luck' (well, that doesn't sound right either) that my grandfather passed away when I was still barely literate. (He worked in the mines, really messed up his lungs) I was too young to understand and merely placed it on the same level as 'he's going on a trip'. Being old enough to actually know what it means when someone dies really increases the impact. This post has been edited by jack cloudy: Mar 26 2008, 10:25 PM
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treydog |
Mar 27 2008, 02:10 AM
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Joined: 13-February 05
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Daedroth and Minque- you have my sympathy..... I am sorry that this has happened to you. But I am glad that you have a community and friends here who can grieve with and support you at this time. As Spider Robinson says, "Grief shared is grief divided; happiness shared is happiness multiplied."
Burnt- I am sorry that the writing competition generated idiocy- you folks (and our regulars) have done a wonderful job of keeping this place one that we like to hang out. As one of the panel, I have to admit that I was relieved for the short time limit, low word count, etc. As my lack of posting demonstrates, I find myself with far less time than I would like. That means I am unable to read as much as I want, unable to comment as much as I want on what I do read, and unable to write much anymore. As a (former) writing teacher, I take commenting on others' work seriously. That means I want to read thoughtfully and have something meaningful to say... Sometimes it may be a bit terse, but I want to point to something specific that I find good: character, dialogue, plotting, something... So I was relieved that there were a reasonable number of entries- I was able to read each of them several times (and will again before turning in my final ballot).
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Zarrexaij |
Mar 27 2008, 03:46 AM
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Joined: 29-April 05
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...I missed a writing competition? In the words of Cartman: "I.... am.... so.... pissed.... off!"  AND DEATHS? Man I should pay attention more to threads.... #$%& Now that I've gotten over the initial shock, I send you my e-condolences Minque and Daedroth.
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Wolfie |
Mar 27 2008, 02:20 PM
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Joined: 14-March 05
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My condolences to Minque and Daedroth. As Burnt said, tell your mum she's in our thoughts and we hope she's ok.
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blockhead |
Mar 27 2008, 02:45 PM
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Joined: 23-March 07
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QUOTE(Zarrexaij @ Mar 26 2008, 10:46 PM)  ...I missed a writing competition?
Probably for the best. I think all can agree that it ... did not go as expected. BSD-IES: QUOTE EDIT: I found your post in the mod section. I'm not sure - maybe I did delete it. If so, I'm sorry I didn't tell you why. Or indeed just answer it there and then. My nerves were a little frayed then. I really can't remember if it was me or not. This was the post.
My post was deleted, quietly. You at least fessed up to it, and restored the post. That is more than they would do over at Bethesda ... but still ... someone deleted my post. That is not right. Proper procedure is to edit the message for profanity, obscenity or racist content (none were applicable in that instance) and to then tell the poster why their post was bad. In an extreme circumstance, the poster may be warned. This was not what was done. "My nerves were a little frayed" is a poor excuse for a casual deletion. Deleting a message quietly in that hopes that no one will notice and it will all go away, is guaranteed to explode in the moderators face. Now consider this: had the message simply been answered in the first place, we would all have been saved some trouble. What about next time? A message was deleted without explanation or warning once, what is say that it will not happen again? milanius: QUOTE Wow. Blockman, you sure you're not overreacting? This, after all, isn't TESF BGSF with tensions and idiocy running rampant, even if recent events in 'Competition' proved me wrong [but only to some extent].
My message was deleted, without warning, and without explanation. It had to almost get to a flame war for the this to be admitted to and then somewhat corrected. The over-reaction was not mine, but that of the original deleter. Black Hand: QUOTE Blockhead. They are not heavy handed here. Trust me, I have had my run-ins at the Main Site, and this place is a far cry from the Bethstapo.
They deleted my message. Even the trolls that run Bethesda's forums have not done that to me (yet). That one action now puts Bethesda ahead. Black Hand: QUOTE In short: LEAVE THE MODS ALONE!!! They do a bang-up job here as far as I am concerned Not so long as even one of them does Wrong. For me, Chorrol has been forever changed. I no longer see these forums as I used to. The damage has been done. I am very disappointed.
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milanius |
Mar 27 2008, 06:06 PM
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Exactly, Mr. R.
Once again, I am sorry for your loss, dear Minque and Daedroth.
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stargelman |
Mar 27 2008, 08:23 PM
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Joined: 8-February 05
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QUOTE(blockhead @ Mar 27 2008, 03:45 PM)  Not so long as even one of them does Wrong.
Oi, we NEVER do wrong! We're superhuman, immortal, wise and fair beyond reckoning! Oh.... wait! 
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milanius |
Mar 27 2008, 09:38 PM
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You mean, you're not really Vivec?! 
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milanius |
Mar 28 2008, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Mar 28 2008, 07:15 PM)  So, how about them Dodgers? (Local Southern California Baseball Team, though I don't really care about sports.)
I liked them more when they were Brooklyn Dodgers... Anyway. We're having ONE MORE FRIGGIN INVENTORY CHECK tomorrow, one hour earlier that worktime [08:00 Central European time] and firm's main storage manager is coming for inspection. There is no rational explanation for this act; it's just out of the blue, because there are some minor inconsistencies. Places in Belgrade and other cities have 10 times more flaws, yet we are the only outfit that has had 3 checks so far. This is the 4th. I am starting to think someone is behind this, as in, this is vendetta aimed against our particular work outfit. Well, screw them. I'll play hardball with rest of the guys tomorrow and stay there for 12, 13, hell, fifteen hours if it comes to that. They want to **** with us, they'll see just how tough, hard-working and principled we are. And yes, **** free Saturdays, I have no life anyway.
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Alexander |
Mar 29 2008, 12:38 AM
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Joined: 8-February 05
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QUOTE(blockhead @ Mar 26 2008, 01:44 PM) 
Now I see that there is a "pinned" thread about the writing contest. That is dumb. Why? Simply this: the contest if over but for the judging. A sane person would only "pin" a thread that is going to be relevant permanently. Who wants to read a pinned thread a year from now for a contest that is over and done with?
The whole thing was ill-done, starting from the mere weeks notice and then the pinned thread. Bad job, people-who-run-chorrol, bad job!
I even posted a reply about how it ought be un-pinned ... and you know ... my reply was quietly erased! I did not even receive a PM or other form of explanation! That is even more heavy-handed then the way the apes over at the Elder scroll forums moderate!
I begin to wonder why I stay at chorrol. I really do.
QUOTE(blockhead @ Mar 27 2008, 02:45 PM)  My post was deleted, quietly. You at least fessed up to it, and restored the post. That is more than they would do over at Bethesda ... but still ... someone deleted my post. That is not right. Proper procedure is to edit the message for profanity, obscenity or racist content (none were applicable in that instance) and to then tell the poster why their post was bad. In an extreme circumstance, the poster may be warned. This was not what was done. "My nerves were a little frayed" is a poor excuse for a casual deletion.
Deleting a message quietly in that hopes that no one will notice and it will all go away, is guaranteed to explode in the moderators face.
Now consider this: had the message simply been answered in the first place, we would all have been saved some trouble.
What about next time? A message was deleted without explanation or warning once, what is say that it will not happen again?
Ok, just for the record, I deleted your message. And if I seem authoritarian when I say this is appologize up front, but I don't owe you an explanation for deleting something I thought was ill befitting in that thread. I believe everyone knows we don't moderate very strictly, we don't have to, because we have quite a few very intelligence, sophisticated people here, who need little to no guidance to keep things clean, cool and fun, but make no mistake about it. We're here, and if any of the mods or admin feel the need to moderate something, we'll do so as we see fit. And we may or may not offer explanation to everyone, or even the person involved. In the words of someone famous; this is not a democracy  Again, don't take that as any sort of threat or authoritarian statement, but please be advised that in the past we've done things not everyone liked, and in the future we'll likely do that again. Sorry. Alex. P.s. If you'd care to discuss this further, please feel free to pm me. But let's not drag this out further inside the coffee shop shall we. P.p.s. Ah, and one slight addition, if anyone is wondering why I didn't mention this sooner, simple. I'm on Vacation at the moment in Orlando Florida, and don't spend much of my time on the forums as you might understand 
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Alexander |
Mar 29 2008, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Lord Revan @ Mar 29 2008, 02:29 AM)  I was just in Orlando!  What are you doing in the theme park city of the US? Mainly I'm here because of Wrestlemania, but while here I also took the time to visit the Orlando parks and Disney World. Great fun, both of them, but I can't wait for tonight when my wrestling adventure starts off with the Hall of fame ceremony, and then on to tomorrow for Wrestlemania  QUOTE(BSD-IES @ Mar 29 2008, 10:54 AM)  Here's some bizarre news.... http://www.tmz.com/2008/03/28/wwe-puts-the...ntinuedcontentsoh, and also an answer to Revan. Enjoy Nipplemania Alex  hehe, well, this is one of the silliest things I've heard all day 
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