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Channler |
Jul 20 2008, 03:51 AM
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QUOTE(Lord Revan @ Jul 18 2008, 08:00 PM)  Having only been through Spanish I, I only understood the gist of that exchange. Whatever, I've not even started dating yet (in contrast to kids one year younger than I). Marriage and courtship aren't priorities in my life plan.
My friend I thought the same way a year ago. I was content on party hopping for my needs, but all it takes is that special girl to come along and turn your world upside down. I've been with my girlfriend for a year and a half so far and truth be told I haven't been happier.
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Wolfie |
Jul 21 2008, 02:28 PM
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Joined: 14-March 05
From: Dublin, Ireland

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QUOTE(stargelman @ Jul 21 2008, 07:04 AM)  Poor Doomed One. I can imagine quite a few denizens of this domain can relate to this your story. I know I can. Love can be massively painful sometimes. I'm going through something right now too that I can only describe as painful, but... well I don't really know. I'm full of confusitrons, the very elementary particles I'm sworn to spread. For some reason they all built a nest in my brain right now. Ah well, I guess it's good to have the kids home for a while...
I wondered why I was feeling less confused of late... go low conncetrations of confusitrons!  In other news, my many attempts at finding a job all came to naught. While this is great in the whole do what I want and sleep as long as I want side of things... it kinda sucks insomuch as I'm totally broke and therefore need money >_<
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 D�anaim smaoineamh, d� bhr� sin, t�im ann - Descartes Only the dead have seen the end of war ~ Plato Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. - G.K. Chesterton EnsamVarg
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Black Hand |
Jul 22 2008, 12:52 AM
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Joined: 26-December 05
From: Where the sun shines everyday in hell.

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QUOTE(Wolfie @ Jul 21 2008, 03:28 PM)  QUOTE(stargelman @ Jul 21 2008, 07:04 AM)  Poor Doomed One. I can imagine quite a few denizens of this domain can relate to this your story. I know I can. Love can be massively painful sometimes. I'm going through something right now too that I can only describe as painful, but... well I don't really know. I'm full of confusitrons, the very elementary particles I'm sworn to spread. For some reason they all built a nest in my brain right now. Ah well, I guess it's good to have the kids home for a while...
I wondered why I was feeling less confused of late... go low conncetrations of confusitrons!  In other news, my many attempts at finding a job all came to naught. While this is great in the whole do what I want and sleep as long as I want side of things... it kinda sucks insomuch as I'm totally broke and therefore need money >_< Dude. I'm there. I dont have a job either, and as of right now, I'm starving and thinking about joining the army for the stability. If the recruiter freind of my friend can follow through, I'll just end up being a three year reservist doing drills for three years at an office type setting. The unit supposedly is non-deployable, and when it's deployed, its to process the people who are going overseas.
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minque |
Jul 22 2008, 07:46 PM
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Joined: 11-February 05
From: Where I can watch you!!

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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 22 2008, 01:52 AM) 
Dude. I'm there. I dont have a job either, and as of right now, I'm starving and thinking about joining the army for the stability. If the recruiter freind of my friend can follow through, I'll just end up being a three year reservist doing drills for three years at an office type setting. The unit supposedly is non-deployable, and when it's deployed, its to process the people who are going overseas.
Sorry mate, I just don't agree. Why on earth should anyone wanna join the army in your country? To deliberately put your life at stake? I can't accept it. AND I have a damn good reason for being very picky about this issue, but I won't discuss that here... QUOTE(Black Hand @ Jul 22 2008, 07:40 PM)  QUOTE(stargelman @ Jul 22 2008, 07:52 AM)  ..and then you're transfered because they need more people in XYistan.
True. But the alternative is homelessness. Granted my odds of survival are greatly diminished in a combat zone. My death, a necessary end, will come when it comes. Nor shall I live my life in fear of that end, for it is the fear that truly diminishes living. You my friend will get a pm tonight! 
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Channler |
Jul 23 2008, 02:40 AM
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Joined: 20-March 05
From: Nashville, North Carolina

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QUOTE Sorry mate, I just don't agree. Why on earth should anyone wanna join the army in your country? To deliberately put your life at stake? I can't accept it. AND I have a damn good reason for being very picky about this issue, but I won't discuss that here...
Well as someone that has willingly joined the US Marine Corp, I'll explain. There are many reasons as to why a person would join a military. Time honored tradition Adventure Chance to prove oneself To defend their nation And there are several more, discipline, money for school.. etc etc. The primary job of a countries military is to defend you, cause if they weren't, then you would have to. And lets face it should war come to your homeland anytime soon I don't think most of the non military peoples could fight it.. Or at least very well. Oh then peoples excuses are "well if no one had a military we wouldn't have to worry about war (and such)". That is very correct however it is if anything a forlorn hope. See other people don't agree with the no military principle, and they are not usually nice people and you know what? They tend to use force to get their ways. Now if no one would fight against those people, what would happen? Well simply you would be subjects of a new country against your own will.. Sounds fun. In fact the only countries I believe that can survive without a military at the moment are Iceland and Costa Rica. Why? Because their independence is protected, firstly by the United States military and secondly NATO. I'm sorry Minky to me your arguments just don't hold up.. I mean when mean spirited people aren't mean spirited anymore I'll call for the abolition of the military. Until then I believe we should remain vigilant in case of another crop of maniacal dictators.
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Lord Revan |
Jul 23 2008, 03:08 AM
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Joined: 6-May 06
From: Texas, USA

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The only thing that can ever stop humanity from having an internal war is if there is an external threat. Let's face it, we all feel threatened by something: terrorists, bogeyman, other powerful nations, spiders, snakes, bears, etc. Humanity is one species, but we see each other as different in practical and dogmatic ways.
We have choices, we disagree. Each of us has a different place we draw the line. Fighting is just an extension of our ability to compete and our drive to survive and prosper. We used to compete with animals more than anything, now we fight mostly ourselves. When we have something else to compete with, we'll probably fight amongst ourselves a little less, but not all together.
If we were all a hive-mind we wouldn't have to fight each other. We might have to fight something else, but we'd have no reason to disagree with each other. The only place you never have to fight is the afterlife, Minque.
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DoomedOne |
Jul 23 2008, 03:44 AM
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Joined: 13-April 05
From: Cocytus

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Yeah I agree competition is a part of nature, but its not the only part. Natural Selection only covers one aspect of what is evolution, the other part is assimilation. Some bacteria decided to put away their differences and form the first complex cells, and then some of these cells worked together to fight other multicelled organisms. These organisms formed packs and tribes to fight other packs and tribes, and then they became nations.
It only seems logical to me that if humanity doesn't kill themselves, they'll eventually come together. Maybe if aliens or demons or something attacked and we realized we had something more important to compete with than ourselves...
Yeah sorry, we're talking about the army, right? No me gusta. I prefer to follow the time honored tradition of counter-culture and rebellion; the adventure of standing for a cause that's actually just; proving myself by going through hell for something that's worth a damn and defending my country by increasing the well-being the citizens. Just my 3 cents.
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Dantrag |
Jul 23 2008, 05:47 AM
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Joined: 13-February 05
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This whole military dilemma is one that can never be balanced, I don't think.
On the one hand, you have peace loving people. On the other, you have war loving people. In order for both to survive, one has to conform to the other. If the peaceful people hold to their values and so do the warlike people, then unfortunately, the peaceful ones die. So, in order to stay alive, they become warlike as well, or, they all die and leave nothing left on the planet but the war lovers.
I realize that I've become a pessimist, but I really don't care anymore.
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