Been testing out some Archery now and I can't say I like it that much, mostly because of the arc of the arrow, both with and without adjustments and that it seems like the arrow disappears once you try hitting stuff from over 200 feet away.
Now, I've managed to kill a bandit from around 190-200 feet with a shot straight to the neck once (tested out with a quick save and it took like 2 tries) but decided to look into the whole thing today. Had some good target practice against outside Whiterun where I managed to bunch together two giants and a mammoth and fired over one hundred arrows from everywhere between 100 and 200 feet. At around "max" distance, nothing hit at all - which really surprised me. As the NPCs reacted as if the arrow went either over them or hit the ground in front of them, but nothing in between. Seriously looked like it went straight through.
Maybe it's just my aim that sucks or I still haven't gotten used to this engine, but it just feels so unnatural and weird at long range. I've played loads of BF2 Bad Company and BF3 as a sniper/recon so I'm pretty familiar to compensate for bullet-drop/gravity and stuff, but that's a totally different, and better engine.

I've had the same thing happen on my archer. She was at concideribly closer range. 10-20 feet and I saw the arrows pass through the Dragonpriest and impact behind him. It happened several times since then as well on differing targets at varied distances. Distances I know I've hit at before. Though I have no proof, I'm thinking there was another 'patch' in the last few weeks or it was something else 1.2 caused.

Hmm, that could be. I think I got my long-range bandit kill before 1.2 although I must admit I don't really remember.

It seems Skyrim is rather forceful about you joining the College of Winterhold. In order to complete the Main Quest, for instance, you need to join the College, and there is also a major side-quest in the game that requires College membership to complete. Kinda puts a damper on the roleplaying when you are trying to do certain quests a certain way and then you are forced outside of your character's expertise just to continue things. My Bosmer is an archer, always will be. He rarely uses magic, most of the time Alchemy suits his needs just fine. But so far, I count two quests (one Main, one Side) that forced membership to the College of Winterhold on me. And now that the quest has kicked into gear, it just seems wrong to ignore it.

But I don't care. I've got what I wanted, so the College can go spin. My Guild is the Thieves Guild, and I have no intention of being a member of any other any longer than absolutely necessary to suit my needs.

Indeed. This is something I found very disappointing with Skyrim actually, not only having certain things forced on you but the fact that there's very few choices in this game to really define your characters personality. Wish there was more depth to this game.

Edit: Finally got the arrow adjustments in the .ini file to work and after clearing out the bandits in the fort outside Whiterun I tested a bit with the training dummies they have on the walls. Things got a lot easier now with a more natural arrow arc and once I got "calibrated" I didn't have too much difficulties hitting static targets at what I'd say is about 300 feet. Why Bethesda even implemented that "arc compensation" as you called it Thomas is beyond me.

This post has been edited by Fuzzy Knight: Dec 8 2011, 03:01 PM

It's not all, actually. Even without the arc compensation, there's still a sort of target tracking auto-aim in play, too, because I have noticed my arrows flying off-crosshair trying to hit a target I wasn't actually aiming for.

Why Bethesda didn't give the PC users options to remove auto aim I will never know. We use more precise controls than the consoles, we don't need auto-aim. The above will likely need mods to fix.

The Creepy: Post-Daedric quest glitch? (Location Spoiler!)



And about the archery thing... I was going to test out an archer-like character, but I can't do it. Even though I never played an archer ever, it just aimed wrong for me. :/

This post has been edited by Jacki Dice: Dec 9 2011, 03:02 AM

Anyone tried the Civil War quests yet?...My son was going well with them, but he tried to deliver a message to Whiterun, and he found he couldn't because you had to tell the Jarl about the Dragon first, which - presumably - sets off the entire MQ...He didn't want to do that, and he got upset about it...

Like you said, surely we can decide when or if we want to do something...Does make it seem more like a game than Oblivion did...You know what I mean?...Oblivion you could choose when to do the MQ...Skyrim forces the choice...

Nope, Bethesda still didn't learn.

I thought we went over this twelve gazillion times. Random road encounters in uber-gear = crappy leveling.

I put a thread in the brand new section about postponing the MQ and still having access to Whiterun, but it's just my experience. Hopefully some others will lend their advice.

And, new section! Woo hoo!

Tell your son that the dragons are not set off till you go to Bleak Falls Barrow. I also had to tell the Jarl of Whiterun about the dragons - and he immediately gives you the mission to go to Bleak Falls Barrow.

Tell your son to go into his quests and unclick that Bleak Falls Barrow quest as the active quest. Click on any other quest to set them as active - then just stay away from Bleak Falls Barrow.

I did that (thanks to King Coin's warning about it) and there has not been a single dragon in my game yet.

Recently I "discovered" Bleak Falls Barrow by accident - scared me to death! I didn't go inside - in fact I ran away from it like a banshee immediately after I realized what it was. I was debating reloading a previous save.

If I saw a dragon I was going to load a previous save, but thank goodness it didn't trigger the dragons. Going inside Bleak Falls Barrow triggers the dragons - but to be on the safe side I wouldn't even go near it if I was him.

This post has been edited by mALX: Dec 9 2011, 01:29 PM

Ah...Yes, trouble is...All of us have been through BFB and got the Dragonstone..."Daddy looked cool doing it so so shall we!!"... ...

Oh wait, so long as he avoids the Wizard he might be fine...I'll see what he can do...

Cheers for that though... ...



Edit!!!...Ooooh the wife found something really funny...And it's something that only the wife would find... ...She married Farkus of the Companions...He's now following her...Well, you would... ...Aaamywho...She was sneaking one day and she saw that he was too...So - as you do - she went to kiss him...*Shrug*...Trouble is, she went right through his face so she could see out the back of him...Talk about getting into his head!!...It's pretty horrible, 'cause the mouth is seperate too...So you get face, then mouth/teeth, then the back of his brainpan/hair and out the other side...Eww!!!... ...

This post has been edited by McBadgere: Dec 10 2011, 05:44 AM

Knowing any answer I give would be rife with dherty in-you-end-oh; I refuse to comment this !!!

Played a little Skyrim recently.

The Good:

*A return of the True Lore.. I've said it many a-times, OB wasn't loreful....Skyrim is.

*Voice Acting The acknowledgment that I'm nude is back! Polar Bear Club in this case. Mostly good, there is some bad...

*Character LooksI'm actually impressed with the Dunmer in this one! The High Elves are...evil looking...and the Bosmer don't suck anymore...though they are offputting.

*AI Much improved.

*Smithing Well, it gets a little TOO reliant there in the end, but at last we have a solution to the Bandits richer than most Nobleman.

*Daedric Quests Niiiiiiicccceeeelly Done! It even hit me in some unexpected ways there.

Quest Writing Well done!

The Bad

*Holy Cut Content Batman!! I can achieve leadership of a Guild in under Five Quests? Wow!

*Wheres my Attributes? My stamina doesn't determine my Carrying Capacity!!!

*Perks? Really? If you're going to rip off your own game Bethesda, at least throw in a Barber!!

*Main Quest....really? I mean really? I can beat the whole game at level seven, with some shouting, and what has to be one of worst ending sequences I've experienced...the 10% of the Terrible voice acting is here...and the most useless 'Shout' given is the trick too defeating Alduin?...its literally better to never start the main quest.....

*The Dark Brotherhood.....Lucien just went from Epic to Epic-ally Annoying..

The Ugly

*With a certain pair of gloves, and one perk, Stealth has officially surpassed Mages in the Overpowered department...

*Released in Tradition as buggy as all hell. A la Daggerfall.

Overall: I actually like Skyrim, the races are well done, the Questing and the Voice-acting was better this time around, I can actually immerse myself in the game, despite the fact that its a dumbed down version of Oblivion, I guess you are sort of left with the challenge of deciding what perks to take.

*The fact that I read about the Thu'um almost ten years ago, and came across it in this game was actually...a pleasant surprise.

So basically, its okay...all the Dragons get a little annoying after a while...

*Disclaimer: This was made in the spirit of a Sports Talk Radio DJ, all is just opinion and a great deal is meant for lols.

EDIT- Toned the apparent meaness down a bit from the next comment from a well written gentleman. I realize that if we were sitting around a table talking, my tones and inflections would not come across as mean as text on a screen does, and reading over I can see where he was coming from.

Oblivion was still bad though

This post has been edited by Black Hand: Dec 11 2011, 07:23 PM

Right, I'm getting that you don't like Oblivion, but please stop shouting opinion out as fact...

Have you played Brink fercryingoutloud?...Now there's an awful game...Aaand yet I've read reviews that say it's brilliant...

Oblivion is still one of the top 10 must have X-Box games...

And I dare say most of the people here have spent a goodly amount of time playing a game with an amount of cr*pness that seems to have passed us all by...

Aaand indeed the four of us in this house have nearly a 1000 hours between us playing a game that we thought was brilliant...

Oh, and I personally think that the fact that you can't tell the Daedric Princes to C*CK OFF!! in any of the quests is stupid...And I almost cried with joy when I discovered that you can kill the Dark Brotherhood from the off...Oh hell yeah...

It's just an opinion...

I was happy to read what you said...Then I got bored with the Oblivion hate...I loved it...So basically I'm pretty sure you insulted my taste... ...

Sorry I should have added the disclaimer prior: I too individually have over 1000 hours in OB. I don't necessarily have as much hate for it as is presented, though I do have strong opinions over the non-Jungleness of Cyrodiil and the Mudcrab speech.

Even Morrowind could present a similar conundrum to those who loved Arena. And while it isn't fair to compare one game to another, I had just gotten off a Zero Punctuation binge, and a partner listening to Sports Talk radio for 12 hours.

I actually liked the elimination thingy in it too. And in some of the quests you actually can tell the Princes to shove off.

And I've never put down another persons love of Oblivion, if they enjoy it, I have no place to tell them otherwise, and it has spawned some awesome fanfic, so it can't be all bad.

Sooo if I insulted anyone, sorry, that wasn't the intention, it was just for laughs and I hope folks here have enough sense of humor to see it for what it is.

Fair dues and fair enough... ...Now I know... ...

Edit....Zero Punctuation Binge...Qu'est ce?...

And cheers for the thing about the Deadric shove off...I have tried to avoid as many as poss...And the ones I did, or re-loaded the earlier save I couldn't get out of...

Manly hugs?... ...

This post has been edited by McBadgere: Dec 11 2011, 10:26 PM

Bring it in! *hugs* And there's the love!

Oh and Zero Punctuation is this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation

This post has been edited by Black Hand: Dec 12 2011, 04:31 AM

He was uncharacteristically kind to Skyrim.

and the end: LOL

I am lolling my F**king ar$e off...Oh thank you for that... ...