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Acadian
post Jan 23 2012, 04:21 AM
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I like episodes of less than 2000 words and a posting frequency of no more than once or twice a week. For what it's worth, I also recommend only one open story at a time so you are not asking readers to split focus. smile.gif


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post Jan 23 2012, 04:22 AM
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Ah thanks guys, I'll put my Skyrim one on hiatus while I edit the chapters around, and start my Oblivion on since I'm writing about it more and it somewhat comes more naturally.

As for word limit, well I personally love long stories, hate it when they end so fast haha. as posting another chapter well I'm not sure, I have not posted because school, hospital and what not, Just don't force yourself to write it smile.gif

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post Jan 23 2012, 04:23 AM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jan 22 2012, 10:16 PM) *

Word limit? Anyone have a call on that? And how long should I wait before I post another chapter?




Usually if it goes over 2000 words with no break points - it ends up being a wall of words and can burn a reader out a bit. As far as frequency goes, many try not to post more than twice per week. That gives the other writers time to read other people's stories (and work on their own as well).


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post Jan 23 2012, 04:30 AM
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[quote name='Acadian' date='Jan 23 2012, 04:21 AM' post='138145']
I like episodes of less than 2000 words and a posting frequency of no more than once or twice a week. For what it's worth, I also recommend only one open story at a time so you are not asking readers to split focus. smile.gif
[/quote] Sounds very reasonable.

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[quote name='Darkness Eternal' post='138144' date='Jan 22 2012, 10:16 PM']
Word limit? Anyone have a call on that? And how long should I wait before I post another chapter?
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Usually if it goes over 2000 words with no break points - it ends up being a wall of words and can burn a reader out a bit. As far as frequency goes, many try not to post more than twice per week. That gives the other writers time to read other people's stories (and work on their own as well).
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Same thing Acadian said. Thanks. wink.gif


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post Jan 23 2012, 12:58 PM
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and now you have your third vote...sort of. I am a step child around here, I contribute to Trey's story. I do agree with mALX and Acadian on length as well as frequency for the most part but don't LIMIT yourself to a rigid word count. IMHO by doing that you run the risk of stifling and "limiting" the story. If you write a particularly long piece and there is a good breaking point (usually one that leaves the reader dangling from a cliff) use it. But if breaking interrupts the flow of the read, DON'T break it.

Just a couple pennies I thought I'd share.


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post Jan 23 2012, 08:02 PM
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Generally, I go for a minimum size of 2000 words, and a maximum of 5000 for each chapter. I make exceptions for one-shots, which usually turn out longer, but otherwise that seems to generally work best. Plus, by the time I'm done with the events of a chapter, that's usually the length they end up as.
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post Jan 29 2012, 01:46 AM
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Ladies, gentlemen, and those on the waiting list:

As I've mentioned before, I'm effectively ghostwriting (me and my big mouth) a Halo/FO3 crossover for a fellow I've previously described as a Scottish blurt. Because that's how he seems to write.

I just received a piece of writing (if you can call it that) from him, which is almost readable - he's almost using paragraphs! But...

When I finished the last piece I sent him, the story was on the verge of an action scene. Unfortunately, what he wrote can be summarised as:

1. John Spartan charges into the Super-Duper Mart and kills all the raiders yayyyy!!

2. SUDDENLY! Giant 5-metre tall acid spiders that are meaner than deathclaws and owe a lot to Dead Space, Resident Evil, Silent Hill and... God help us... Doctor Who.

3. A history lesson on same.

My problem is working out how to tell this little Scots terrier on meth and sugar rush that this is a truly terrible idea that'll wreck the whole story - basically 'too many cooks spoil the broth'.

Suggestions?


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post Jan 29 2012, 05:06 AM
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Well, one idea is...Tell him that 5-metre tall spiders are a stupid idea, and if he doesn't like it he can do it himself...

Another is...Let him do it himself...

If you're getting paid for the ghostwriting, fine, fair enough...If not, why the hell?...

Point out that 20 foot tall spiders (plural) are going to put a dent in anyone's post-apocolyptic world...And Halo-troops or not...That's just silly...And let him do it himself...

Point out that 20 foot tall spiders are silly...

Point out that if you put these 20 foot tall spiders in the story it's going to seriously c*ck it up, and so could he please change his idea please...Or he can do it himself...

I know a story about Noel Gallagher and Ghostwriting, and why Oasis changed after What's The Story (Morning Glory)...

I hate that...Ghostwriting sucks...

20 foot tall spiders suck...

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post Jan 29 2012, 07:14 AM
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Unless you are being paid, I suggest you simply not do this ghostwriting and let the Scots terrier do it himself.


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post Jan 29 2012, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jan 29 2012, 12:14 AM) *

Unless you are being paid, I suggest you simply not do this ghostwriting and let the Scots terrier do it himself.


I agree, well first tell him that, as Rob said, 20 foot tall spiders suck..., if he starts being difficult, just don't do it, you are under no obligations biggrin.gif

I myself am having trouble writing, I have never written a 3rd person story, or well a narrative, which is sort of the style that I'm going for. Hehe guess I'll just write, can't expect myself to write a master piece the first time.

Okay now for the question, I need help making a title, Inserting "Journal" into the title does not fit Jericho, since he is illiterate and well of course is not capable of keeping a journal. Hehe, my brain is drawing a complete blank, any suggestions?

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post Jan 29 2012, 07:44 AM
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The scrawls of Jericho?... wink.gif ...

And I'd only written a couple of things about 15 years ago...And aside from the odd thing for junior school...Not properly...Ever...

Just try...It's all you can do...Having read your other journal stuff, it's bound to be good though...You've good stuff there...

*Applauds*...
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post Jan 29 2012, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(Fawkes @ Jan 29 2012, 01:25 AM) *

Okay now for the question, I need help making a title, Inserting "Journal" into the title does fit with Jericho, since he is illiterate and well of course is not capable of keeping a journal. Hehe, my brain is drawing a complete blank, any suggestions?

I had trouble coming up with a title for the Teresa fic. So in the end I just called it Teresa of the Faint Smile. Creative eh? wink.gif

If you are going to be writing something with a definite beginning, middle, and ending, then pick a title that suits the theme or plot of the story. If you are writing more of an ongoing journal style, with no specific plot, then I suggest you go for a more generic title like I used. Adventures of Jericho, Once Upon A Time In Cyrodiil, etc...


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post Jan 29 2012, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Jan 29 2012, 05:06 PM) *
If you're getting paid for the ghostwriting, fine, fair enough...If not, why the hell?...


Because when I saw the crossover, I saw potential for a damn good story, buried underneath a steaming pile of illiteracy and poor thinking. I mean, the guy originally had the entire DC Ruins area walled off apparently overnight! Add to that a grasp of grammar and spelling so loose it was falling to bits...

So I clicked 'review' and opened my big, helpful, stupid yap.

The rest, as they say, is a learning experience.

I think I'll let him know the idea doesn't really fit in this story but will need its own to do it justice - let him down gently.

Then I'll set him some homework.

Thanks for the feedback.


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post Jan 29 2012, 08:18 PM
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Fair dues, I hope it leaves you with enough time for yer own stuff though...

I also hope that one day you can carry on with that story you started about the Imperial dude...That was brilliant...I really was enjoying that...*Applauds*... biggrin.gif ...

Good plan about telling him...It may be better than mine... laugh.gif ...
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post Jan 29 2012, 08:53 PM
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So, crossovers is acceptable here, then? I remember seeing something regarding the island of Solshtheim!

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post Jan 30 2012, 07:04 AM
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I believe that as long as it's Bethesda (it isn't called Chorrol.Com for nothing biggrin.gif ) I think it's a case of write what you want... biggrin.gif ...

Cardboard Box's is an Oblivion/Fallout 3 crossover...

But Colonel Mustard is writing a fantastic Fallout New Vegas story that has no Elder Scrolls in it...I'm really really enjoying that btw...

I think crossovers are fine...If we like it we'll keep reading it... laugh.gif ...

If you want to crossover to Halo or X-Files or what-have-you then that place that Colonel Mustard also posts, Fanfiction.net, is probably more receptive to it... biggrin.gif ...

But I think crossing over between the Elder Scrolls games is fine...Well I hope so...I got plans for me characters in Skyrim anyways... tongue.gif biggrin.gif ...
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post Jan 30 2012, 07:27 AM
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I mean as in a character from another person's story make a cameo apperance, and vice versa. Or have one character from a single story appear in the other one.


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post Jan 30 2012, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Jan 30 2012, 12:27 AM) *

I mean as in a character from another person's story make a cameo apperance, and vice versa. Or have one character from a single story appear in the other one.


Ohh, I seen a couple like that, the only one that I can remember right now is Buffy appearing in Subrosa's fic.
I KNOW that there are more cameo appearances, can't remember though.


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post Jan 30 2012, 07:35 AM
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Erm...Within yer own stories, yes. of course...But I think permission should be sought if you want to use someone else's...

And that whole Blood On The Moon/Memoirs of a Morag Tong thing is...A complicated arrangement anyways... laugh.gif ...

mALX has used a couple of other people's characters...Grits had a location from Acadian's story...Y'know, stuff like that...

Permission is the key...

And don't kill any of them off...It's Impolite... tongue.gif ...
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post Jan 30 2012, 07:37 AM
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Oh, I know the procedures. I was just curious as to how often it was done here. I know taking other people's characters without permission is a no no nono.gif


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