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post Apr 6 2012, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE(King Coin @ Apr 5 2012, 08:57 PM) *

Huh? I use night eye all the time!

That is because you are playing a Khajiit, and get it as a racial power. So far as I know, that is the only way to get the spell.


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post Apr 6 2012, 02:29 AM
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King Coin: Khajiit gets night eye. Vampires gets Vampiric vision. According to the Construction Set, werewolves were suppose to get Night Eye too, but it was removed. Everytime I walk into a dungeon, my Imperial has to use a torch verysad.gif. It's totally anti-immersive.


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post Apr 6 2012, 02:57 AM
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My cousin (on the Xbox) was b!tching about having to constantly cast night eye as a spell. I'm going to look in the CK now for it.

EDIT: Weird... I'm going to have to talk to my cousin. As far as I can tell, it isn't a magic effect.

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post Apr 6 2012, 04:07 AM
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Um...Speaking as an heretical nermal here...Couldn't you just turn the brightness up?...

This is what we like to call, an solution... tongue.gif ...

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post Apr 6 2012, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Apr 6 2012, 04:07 AM) *

Um...Speaking as an heretical nermal here...Couldn't you just turn the brightness up?...

This is what we like to call, an solution... tongue.gif ...

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It. Ruins. The. Immersion.

You think a person walking in a dark cave would just shrug and tune on the brightness level of their surroundings? I'm a big Rper, so this is not a solution. I'm more annoyed about Bethesda not adding that ability to something that would need it.


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post Apr 6 2012, 03:26 PM
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It. Is. A. Game.
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post Apr 6 2012, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Apr 6 2012, 10:26 AM) *

It. Is. A. Game.



Nothing is ever just a game, lol.

I found the dungeons almost too well lit in Skyrim, I never needed to use the night-eye and had to constantly in dungeons in Oblivion.


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post Apr 6 2012, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 6 2012, 09:33 AM) *

I found the dungeons almost too well lit in Skyrim, I never needed to use the night-eye and had to constantly in dungeons in Oblivion.

They are too well lit IMO. Before installing mods, nighteye wasn't needed. Now that I've found a lighting mod that I like, nighteye is useful again.


I'm not against McB's solution to the nighteye problem either. Sounds good to me lol. I'm really surprised that nighteye isn't a spell. What the heck?


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post Apr 6 2012, 04:39 PM
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That's another huge bad for me...Where the hell did all of the spells go?...

What, Winterhold doesn't have all of the spells that Cyrodiil has?...Or was it all you Immersion (cliched now btw) people who complained that the feather/fortify strength spells made it too easy?...

I used them all the time...I enchanted (another thing that's c*cked up like the non seperate armour, which was a lot of fun to combine looks with) my entire armour with strength...That was massive fun...Loved it...

This is another place where the "Story" is completely screwed...There's noone in 200 years that remembers Ease Burden as a spell to teach?...Really?...Nooo...Methinks that was for the...True gamers...
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post Apr 6 2012, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Apr 6 2012, 03:26 PM) *

It. Is. A. Game.

Maybe for you. But some of us put efforts into our own playstyles. We like to play the GAME in our own different ways. I like to RP, some people like to hack and slash and whatnot. Got a problem?


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post Apr 6 2012, 05:00 PM
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'Course not...I haven't the slightest problem with whatever anyone wants to do with their time...It's not my problem how you play it...

I merely gave a light-hearted and obvious solution (hence the huge grin at the bottom) to something that people seem to be having trouble with...I personally have never needed to do it anyways...But I did in some places in Oblivion...

I do, however, dislike being annunciated at...Or should that be punctuated at...

Espescially with a cliche...


EDIT...Oh, and just so we're clear...All of my Knights have some sort of different playstyle...So I RP too...

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post Apr 6 2012, 05:26 PM
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One of the things that defines my characters in Skyrim is whether they use torches or Magelight for dark corners. That leaves my stealthy throat slicer in the lurch. They made the game bright enough not to really need a light source, but it bothers me that there isnt a good choice for him. Luckily everyone sleeps with candles lit and a blazing fire going. Even the dead. kvleft.gif


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post Apr 6 2012, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Apr 6 2012, 05:00 PM) *

'Course not...I haven't the slightest problem with whatever anyone wants to do with their time...It's not my problem how you play it...

I merely gave a light-hearted and obvious solution (hence the huge grin at the bottom) to something that people seem to be having trouble with...I personally have never needed to do it anyways...But I did in some places in Oblivion...

I do, however, dislike being annunciated at...Or should that be punctuated at...

Espescially with a cliche...


EDIT...Oh, and just so we're clear...All of my Knights have some sort of different playstyle...So I RP too...

I should of put a smiley face at the end of my inquiry. I keep forgetting. The last remark was not meant to spite, but just a playful scorn haha. I see. And I had no clue it was a cliche, should I replace "immersion" with "Realism?"

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post Apr 6 2012, 08:23 PM
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Umm...No...

I appreciate that a smiley at the end would change the tone...That's why I always add the smileys, to make sure if my tone is intended to be light, that is obvious...I know that what I say could be sometimes taken wrong...This is because I am, at my basic level, a git... biggrin.gif ...

Unfortunately, what seems to be a very vocal majority of a very minor section of the people who play the game and post on the Bethesda site, appear to be repeating, parrot fashion, the phrase It Ruins The Immersion. And I absolutely believe that it's being said without really understanding it...Hence, its repetition to the point of cliche...

And once more, I say that while it is an amazingly immersive experience that it is absolutely possible to lose onesself in, whether it be my way, where I can happily play for 20 mins as the dual Bound Sword wielding Bosmer Knight of The Nine, Caerellin, before I go to work and do a bit, or anyone else's way, where they absolutely refuse to fast travel, and all that...It is...Only a game...

Sorry if I offend anyone with it but, that is my - however different to anyone else's it may be - Opinion...

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post Apr 6 2012, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Apr 6 2012, 03:23 PM) *

Sorry if I offend anyone with it but, that is my - however different to anyone else's it may be - Opinion...



McB, you could never offend! That's why I wrote my (lol) at the end of my comment, so you'd know I was teasing you. bigsmile.gif


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post Apr 6 2012, 09:14 PM
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I'm upset that there aren't too many actually unique items, the magic system has been greatly simplified, and the creation system makes you able to make the rarest items rather than searching for them.


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