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King Coin |
Sep 20 2012, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(ghastley @ Sep 19 2012, 02:15 PM)  In Sigrid is still Guildmagister. it looks like Buffy is sitting slightly below the level of the seat. I had a similar issue (in the opposite direction) with Aranxa, the scaled-up Xivilai. In her case, of course, she'd hover over the seat. I'm not sure there's any easy way to fix it in general, but I think for screenshots you can tweak a character's z-location with a console command. GetPos will give you the current coordinates, and then SetPos z will allow you to provide an adjusted one. There's a similar pair for Angle, too. Scale up or down the desired seat before sitting? 
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ghastley |
Sep 21 2012, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE(King Coin @ Sep 20 2012, 04:37 PM)  QUOTE(ghastley @ Sep 19 2012, 02:15 PM)  In Sigrid is still Guildmagister. it looks like Buffy is sitting slightly below the level of the seat. I had a similar issue (in the opposite direction) with Aranxa, the scaled-up Xivilai. In her case, of course, she'd hover over the seat. Scale up or down the desired seat before sitting?  I thought that would work, but it turns out that a larger seat made her hover higher. There's not much you can do for a NPC that stands and sits at different times, but sceenshots at least can be tweaked via console.
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mALX |
Sep 21 2012, 05:31 AM
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QUOTE(ghastley @ Sep 21 2012, 12:26 AM)  QUOTE(King Coin @ Sep 20 2012, 04:37 PM)  QUOTE(ghastley @ Sep 19 2012, 02:15 PM)  In Sigrid is still Guildmagister. it looks like Buffy is sitting slightly below the level of the seat. I had a similar issue (in the opposite direction) with Aranxa, the scaled-up Xivilai. In her case, of course, she'd hover over the seat. Scale up or down the desired seat before sitting?  I thought that would work, but it turns out that a larger seat made her hover higher. There's not much you can do for a NPC that stands and sits at different times, but sceenshots at least can be tweaked via console. These are great tips Ghastley!
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King Coin |
Sep 21 2012, 06:57 PM
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Thanks for the wonderful tour through Buffy's Kvatch. I'm sure Sav would be pleased.  Maybe Aravi will get down to Kvatch someday. QUOTE(ghastley @ Sep 20 2012, 11:26 PM)  I thought that would work, but it turns out that a larger seat made her hover higher. There's not much you can do for a NPC that stands and sits at different times, but sceenshots at least can be tweaked via console.
That would just be too simple, wouldn't it?  I actually thought that scaling a seat down for a shorter character would work, not scaling up. For example, a character at .9 would fit better in a seat scaled down to .9, or some other value less than 1. This post has been edited by King Coin: Sep 21 2012, 06:58 PM
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ghastley |
Sep 21 2012, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(King Coin @ Sep 21 2012, 01:57 PM)  That would just be too simple, wouldn't it?  I actually thought that scaling a seat down for a shorter character would work, not scaling up. For example, a character at .9 would fit better in a seat scaled down to .9, or some other value less than 1. Right, but my experience was with x1.5 scale Aranxa. It appeared that scaling the chair sets a new position, but a scaled character will hover or sink according to their own scale. IIRC Buffy's scale is only 0.8 or so, meaning that both characters are outside the normal 0.9 to 1.1 of the standard races, where it's not enough to notice. It's not just sitting either. My current char uses a scale of 1.2, and she hovers over a bed when she sleeps (See You Sleep dll version works great!). Swimming is another place where the scale has odd effects. This post has been edited by ghastley: Sep 21 2012, 07:07 PM
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Acadian |
Oct 2 2012, 01:51 AM
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Joined: 14-March 10
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Darkness Eternal- Thanks for popping in! We have mulled cider, Tamikas and Angels recipe for appleberry juice. Im afraid some of your characters might have to BYOB (bring their own blood) however if that is their drink of choice. mALX- Thanks! The modder of Kvatch Rebuilt did a great job and Im delighted that, in many ways, it fits Buffys story. Thank you also for mentioning Buffys screenshot for October. As well before long move to another month, let me more permanently post the one youre referring to: Tamika making me work for my wine.ghastley- Thanks for identifying that statue for us. Thanks also to you and KC for ideas about the little elves in big chairs problem. Most of the time it isnt noticeable, but youre right that it is in that shot. The ladies of Buffys custom race are 88% the height of an Imperial woman and 80% of their weight. Based on the ideas you and KC kicked around, I did drop the size of a stool and had Buffy sit in it. With a bit of fine tuning, it actually solved the problem and is something Ill have to remember. Grits- Thank you so very much for your kind words and well wishes! You always warm our hearts. KC- Thanks for enjoying Buffys little tour. Between you and ghastley, we also learned how to make her better fit those human sized chairs and stools that fill her world! A postcard from Elsweyr.
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King Coin |
Oct 2 2012, 03:25 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Oct 1 2012, 07:56 PM)  Huh? Before long? Today is the first day of October! ROFL !!!
That means there's only a month left for it! Love the screen too. Poor Buffy being put to work. 
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Grits |
Oct 3 2012, 12:38 AM
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That picture of Buffy at Tamikas is enough to make a Nord switch to wine! I love getting postcards!!  I had the same thought about the big guard, KC. Maybe thats a Cathay-raht! Or perhaps we shouldnt use a perfectly petite Bosmer for scale.  I really want to go to Elsweyr, too! Buffys desert outfit looks great on her! I love how all of the browns work together. And Superian looks magnificent against the tan wall. Im sure Buffy doesnt let the dust settle on her precious mares coat!
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King Coin |
Oct 3 2012, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE(Grits @ Oct 2 2012, 06:38 PM)  I love getting postcards!!  I had the same thought about the big guard, KC. Maybe thats a Cathay-raht! Or perhaps we shouldnt use a perfectly petite Bosmer for scale.  I really want to go to Elsweyr, too! It's hard to tell with Buffy, but I do think that Khajiit's bigger than normal. He's Kharjo sized at least!
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ghastley |
Oct 3 2012, 02:14 PM
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I think you've also got a bit of "fish-eye" effect, and things nearer the center look smaller than at the edge. It may depend on the FOV setting, or it may always be there as a "feature" of the render engine.
Buffy's legs look longer with that position in the picture. She might like that idea.
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Acadian |
Oct 12 2012, 02:14 PM
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Joined: 14-March 10
From: Las Vegas

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mALX- Thank you! Buffy quite fell in love with the rustic beauty of Riverhold. And anytime she can get up high to counter her height, shes happy! KC- Thanks! Sorry, we forgot both the alchemists and the Alfiqs names that are in that screen of the guild. Luvs the mixture of cave and wood found in some of the Riverhold buildings. Darkness Eternal- Thanks for the comment on that postcard! Yes, as Buffy moves deeper into Elsweyr, well see quite the Arabian flavor in places. Grits- Thank you! Riverhold really does capture the imagination. An exotic mixture of cliffs and water with a sort of tree house feel as odd as that all sounds. * Since we have about 40 screenshots of Buffys grand tour of Elsweyr, weve organized the rest of them into bite-sized pieces that we'll post perhaps a week or so apart. As Buffy heads south from Riverhold, the forests begin to melt away gradually yielding to desert - Here in Elsweyr, Khenarthi is the name for Kyne or Kynareth. Bartering for water. Just a note here on the tiger in this next one, as you will see more of him in the future. The cat is quite magical and mysterious. He is Superians very protective familiar and as devoted to the mare as Buffy is. He can change from cat to tiger and even conjure a set of enchanted Royal Pahmar armor. Desert camping. I hate spiders. Especicially BIG ones. More water! Even the babies have bigger ears than me! Are those ostriches? Yup. Buffy finds a truck stop for the night and parks Superian among the big rigs. Note: Ill be gone this upcoming week on another pilgrimage to visit Acadian the Senior. I look forward to then returning to my own desert home, catching up on the wonderful threads that I follow, then posting Buffys next installment of her Elsweyr Expedition. This post has been edited by Acadian: Oct 13 2012, 09:49 PM
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