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Darkness Eternal
post Apr 4 2013, 12:31 AM
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Alien vs Predator. Killing humans for honorary sport has never been more fun. Most shooters just force us to be the humans. But games as these provide a welcome change.


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post Apr 4 2013, 02:56 PM
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Alien vs Predator. Killing humans for honorary sport has never been more fun.

You sound like a crazy person when you say that...
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post Apr 4 2013, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Apr 4 2013, 01:31 AM) *

Alien vs Predator

That is a good game but too hard for me. I have the demo where you can only be the alien and not being able to save when you want to is a serious issue for me. I may come really far with full health but one or two mistakes later and Im back at the beginning again! That my friends, is something I dont tolerate! After that perfect run and cheap death all my concentration is gone and I simply cant do the same thing again.

So back to FO3 or Oblivion it is cool.gif


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post Apr 4 2013, 11:30 PM
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Yeah I liked the Aliens vs Predator game too. It was interesting to be able to play as all three species.

I especially liked the intro as the alien in the lab. It was lots of fun.


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post Apr 5 2013, 07:26 AM
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I'm playing two worlds. It's not that bad blink.gif


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post Apr 5 2013, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Apr 5 2013, 06:26 AM) *

I'm playing two worlds. It's not that bad blink.gif

The second one is better. I couldn't play the first one at all because it just felt unpolished in every way. The sequel however is a decent way to waste a couple of hours.


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post Apr 5 2013, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 3 2013, 12:44 PM) *

I take it you are going to use the console or construction kit to make the other Forsworn friendly to your character?

After giving the matter much thought (or what passes for much thought with me, anyway) I decided to let other Forsworn remain hostile to my character. The UESP, which is never wrong about anything, informs me that "Each redoubt is as an individual cell operating under the orders of a Forsworn Briarheart or matriarch. The cells in turn may receive orders from Madanach, the imprisoned King in Rags." This allows me some wiggle room to roleplay that whatever organization existed between cells has begun to disintegrate badly during Madanach's imprisonment. In his absence they are starting to be at each other's throats. They will see my character as a spy or scout in advance of a potential war party.

One thing I'm seriously thinking about doing, though, is making Hagravens non-hostile. I would like them to be the honored counselors and revered Matriarchs I have always assumed they should have been. I have always liked Hagravens. It always seemed wrong to kill them. In fact, maybe my character could make pilgrimages to each one in the game to receive guidance. That actually sounds like kind of a cool home made quest, now that I think of it. You know, maybe I'm just tired because it's 2:30 in the morning, but I'm thinking that's actually more interesting than the main quest. I just might do that.

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post Apr 5 2013, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Apr 5 2013, 05:32 AM) *

QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 3 2013, 12:44 PM) *

I take it you are going to use the console or construction kit to make the other Forsworn friendly to your character?

After giving the matter much thought (or what passes for much thought with me, anyway) I decided to let other Forsworn remain hostile to my character. The UESP, which is never wrong about anything, informs me that "Each redoubt is as an individual cell operating under the orders of a Forsworn Briarheart or matriarch. The cells in turn may receive orders from Madanach, the imprisoned King in Rags." This allows me some wiggle room to roleplay that whatever organization existed between cells has begun to disintegrate badly during Madanach's imprisonment. In his absence they are starting to be at each other's throats. They will see my character as a spy or scout in advance of a potential war party.

One thing I'm seriously thinking about doing, though, is making Hagravens non-hostile. I would like them to be the honored counselors and revered Matriarchs I have always assumed they should have been. I have always liked Hagravens. It always seemed wrong to kill them. In fact, maybe my character could make pilgrimages to each one in the game to receive guidance. That actually sounds like kind of a cool home made quest, now that I think of it. You know, maybe I'm just tired because it's 2:30 in the morning, but I'm thinking that's actually more interesting than the main quest. I just might do that.

There is definitely some support for the idea that the Forsworn Redoubts are not friendly with one another. In one of them (I forget which one), you can find a note showing that they are not one big happy family. I also agree that the leader of the cells should be Hagravens. The HRs seem to be the spiritual leaders of the Forsworn at least. It would make sense that they rule absolutely through their spells and connection to the Deadra.

I cannot say I have the same good will toward them however! Not with the way they surround themselves with mutilated animal parts, and seem to be the arch-rivals of the Spriggans. Everything about them and the Forsworn seems to be anti-nature. Which would make sense if they are indeed Daedra worshipers. Though if they are, what Daedra do they worship? We never see that in the game. I have seen people suggest Hircine (the idea being that as a god of hunting, he would be the opposite of Kyne - the goddess of wild animals.) Boeitha (I cannot spell it) seems like a likely suspect to me too, given that Daedra's love for slaughter, and the Forsworn's.

I was really very disappointed with the Witches, Hags, and Hagravens we see in Skyrim. It seems Bethesda gave them every negative stereotype about Witchcraft and Paganism, to the point of being the exact opposite of Witchcraft. In Morrowind there was a book called 2920, The Last Year of the First Era that portrayed the High Rock Witches very well:



I actually made a mod that renames Witches to Hagraven Cultists, because I do not like the association. I wonder how many people would have been happy if they had named the Witches and Hags Christians instead?


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post Apr 5 2013, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Apr 5 2013, 05:32 AM) *

QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 3 2013, 12:44 PM) *

I take it you are going to use the console or construction kit to make the other Forsworn friendly to your character?

After giving the matter much thought (or what passes for much thought with me, anyway) I decided to let other Forsworn remain hostile to my character. The UESP, which is never wrong about anything, informs me that "Each redoubt is as an individual cell operating under the orders of a Forsworn Briarheart or matriarch. The cells in turn may receive orders from Madanach, the imprisoned King in Rags." This allows me some wiggle room to roleplay that whatever organization existed between cells has begun to disintegrate badly during Madanach's imprisonment. In his absence they are starting to be at each other's throats. They will see my character as a spy or scout in advance of a potential war party.

One thing I'm seriously thinking about doing, though, is making Hagravens non-hostile. I would like them to be the honored counselors and revered Matriarchs I have always assumed they should have been. I have always liked Hagravens. It always seemed wrong to kill them. In fact, maybe my character could make pilgrimages to each one in the game to receive guidance. That actually sounds like kind of a cool home made quest, now that I think of it. You know, maybe I'm just tired because it's 2:30 in the morning, but I'm thinking that's actually more interesting than the main quest. I just might do that.


Very cool roleplay idea!




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post Apr 5 2013, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Kiln @ Apr 5 2013, 12:53 AM) *

QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Apr 5 2013, 06:26 AM) *

I'm playing two worlds. It's not that bad blink.gif

The second one is better. I couldn't play the first one at all because it just felt unpolished in every way. The sequel however is a decent way to waste a couple of hours.


I liked buy of them. They were pretty fun. The second one confused me though, lol


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post Apr 6 2013, 05:44 PM
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Currently Skyrim on the Big Portal and Alaron and Pocket RPG on the Small Portal.


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post Apr 6 2013, 07:18 PM
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I just finished Bioshock Infinite. It...that...

That ending. Wow. I don't think I'm going to be able to play another game for the next few days because it'll just look rubbish in comparison.
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post Apr 6 2013, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 6 2013, 10:18 AM) *

I just finished Bioshock Infinite. It...that...

That ending. Wow. I don't think I'm going to be able to play another game for the next few days because it'll just look rubbish in comparison.


I might just check that game out. You make it sound pretty good.


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post Apr 6 2013, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 6 2013, 06:18 PM) *

I just finished Bioshock Infinite. It...that...

That ending. Wow. I don't think I'm going to be able to play another game for the next few days because it'll just look rubbish in comparison.

Better than anything in a video game ever. Told you so. biggrin.gif


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post Apr 6 2013, 07:29 PM
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Aaah, cmon. Infinite cant be that good? wink.gif

However, I did feel that way when I finished up on the first game..


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post Apr 6 2013, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 6 2013, 06:29 PM) *

Aaah, cmon. Infinite cant be that good? wink.gif

However, I did feel that way when I finished up on the first game..

Rent it, play through it, wipe away the tears of joy caused by the most amazing ending you've ever experienced, then come back and admit that it was that good. wink.gif


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post Apr 6 2013, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(Kiln @ Apr 6 2013, 08:31 PM) *

Rent it, play through it, wipe away the tears of joy caused by the most amazing ending you've ever experienced, then come back and admit that it was that good. wink.gif

I already did that when I was done with the original Bioshock tongue.gif



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post Apr 6 2013, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 6 2013, 06:32 PM) *

QUOTE(Kiln @ Apr 6 2013, 08:31 PM) *

Rent it, play through it, wipe away the tears of joy caused by the most amazing ending you've ever experienced, then come back and admit that it was that good. wink.gif

I already did that when I was done with the original Bioshock tongue.gif

This game makes the first game look like week old potatoes left in the hot sun.


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post Apr 6 2013, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 6 2013, 07:32 PM) *
QUOTE(Kiln @ Apr 6 2013, 08:31 PM) *

Rent it, play through it, wipe away the tears of joy caused by the most amazing ending you've ever experienced, then come back and admit that it was that good. wink.gif

I already did that when I was done with the original Bioshock tongue.gif


Mirocu, I have to say this. I know you love the original Bioshock. I also love the original Bioshock. It was a fantastic, thoughtful, well-written game replete with an excellent atmosphere, fun gameplay and also managed to masterfully deconstruct the entire concept of player motivation in a way that has only been followed up by Spec Ops: The Line. It is easily one of the most compelling arguments for gaming serving as a form of art and playing it was one of the best things I've ever done on a console.

Infinite takes the original Bioshock and quite triumphantly stomps on its face in just about every possible aspect. It's so, so good in every way imaginable...
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Youre making a very good argument, mr Mustard. But Ive heard people who loved the original Deus Ex, like I do, loved the sequels, which I spit on, bash up and bury in the deepest grave in the most unholy ground I can find wink.gif

But it sounds interesting nonetheless smile.gif Just one question, does it..... require Steam?


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