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Colonel Mustard
post Apr 6 2013, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 6 2013, 08:20 PM) *
Youīre making a very good argument, mr Mustard. But Iīve heard people who loved the original Deus Ex, like I do, loved the sequels, which I spit on, bash up and bury in the deepest grave in the most unholy ground I can find wink.gif

But it sounds interesting nonetheless smile.gif Just one question, does it..... require Steam?

Yes, it does. Which will add a whole five minutes to the installation time, and about 10 seconds to type in your password to play it if you don't set it to switch on every time you boot up. And then it does nothing except mention the occasional achievement.

And I really have to ask, what's wrong with Human Revolution? Edit: And don't say 'boss fights' because knows and agrees that they weren't implemented as well as they could be.

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post Apr 6 2013, 08:33 PM
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Well, then itīs a no no for me no matter how good it is. I donīt buy games that forces me to use internet sites to play. And it doesnīt matter if Iīm online to chat like I do here, I donīt want to be forced to use the internet when I just want to play a single player game.
But Iīve had enough of this over at Bethsoft so I wonīt dig deeper into this here biggrin.gif

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And I really have to ask, what's wrong with Human Revolution? Edit: And don't say 'boss fights' because knows and agrees that they weren't implemented as well as they could be.

Actually, I havenīt played that game and just very, very little of Invisible War. I donīt really hate the sequels, I just love the original too much. The characters, the music, the events, the gadgets... It was done to perfection imv,vho in the original game and the other ones simply cannot top that, nor can any game really. But if you like it, all the better for you smile.gif


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post Apr 6 2013, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 6 2013, 08:33 PM) *
Well, then itīs a no no for me no matter how good it is. I donīt buy games that forces me to use internet sites to play. And it doesnīt matter if Iīm online to chat like I do here, I donīt want to be forced to use the internet when I just want to play a single player game.
But Iīve had enough of this over at Bethsoft so I wonīt dig deeper into this here biggrin.gif

Your loss, then, especially over a reason like that. That's...that's a tiny thing. Miniscule.


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And I really have to ask, what's wrong with Human Revolution? Edit: And don't say 'boss fights' because knows and agrees that they weren't implemented as well as they could be.

Actually, I havenīt played that game and just very, very little of Invisible War. I donīt really hate the sequels, I just love the original too much. The characters, the music, the events, the gadgets... It was done to perfection imv,vho in the original game and the other ones simply cannot top that, nor can any game really. But if you like it, all the better for you smile.gif

Sooooo...where's the evidence for your argument that the others can't top it if you've never gathered any? Why bother making an argument with no evidence?
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post Apr 6 2013, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 6 2013, 09:39 PM) *

Sooooo...where's the evidence for your argument that the others can't top it if you've never gathered any? Why bother making an argument with no evidence?

Iīm not saying the other games are inferior tongue.gif Iīm just saying they canīt top it in my little corner of the gaming world wink.gif


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post Apr 6 2013, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 6 2013, 08:41 PM) *
QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 6 2013, 09:39 PM) *

Sooooo...where's the evidence for your argument that the others can't top it if you've never gathered any? Why bother making an argument with no evidence?

Iīm not saying the other games are inferior tongue.gif Iīm just saying they canīt top it in my little corner of the gaming world wink.gif

But...evidence? How do you know that they can't top it if you haven't even tried them?
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post Apr 6 2013, 09:58 PM
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And I've just been reading some absolutely mind blowing analysis of Bioshock Infinite's plot. I need to go back and play this game again.

You need to read that article, Kiln! (And anybody else who's played Bioshock Infinite)

Also, Mirocu, I've discovered a solution to your Steam problem. Just buy it on a console and play it on that. And yes, that's a serious response. Never before have I had a game have my brain firing so many intellectual cylinders before. Ever. I think it might be the best game I've ever played.
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post Apr 6 2013, 10:00 PM
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Iīm holding off on new games anyway now as Iīm pretty busy with Oblivion and Fallout 3. But thanks for the advice on the console. I actually have Skyrim for the PS3, no console yet however biggrin.gif

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post Apr 7 2013, 07:53 PM
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Oooh...My latest Fallout 3 playthrough came to an end today after several freezing episodes during the Endgame to Broken Steel...Fun though it was to go over the same ground several times...*Rollseyes*...

Still, it ended...And now I've started Dungeon Siege III again with a different character to last time...That's a fun game, I'm looking forward to building my tank Knight up...Oh yes...Last time I was a mage-ish...It's complicated... biggrin.gif ...
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post Apr 7 2013, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 6 2013, 08:58 PM) *
Also, Mirocu, I've discovered a solution to your Steam problem. Just buy it on a console and play it on that. And yes, that's a serious response. Never before have I had a game have my brain firing so many intellectual cylinders before. Ever. I think it might be the best game I've ever played.

Pretty much sums it up for me too.


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post Apr 8 2013, 11:55 AM
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Would you all say Bioshock Infinite could be enjoyable to a person who has never played the original Bioshock?
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post Apr 8 2013, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Apr 8 2013, 11:55 AM) *

Would you all say Bioshock Infinite could be enjoyable to a person who has never played the original Bioshock?

Ehhh, tricky to answer, really. You'd have a lot of fun, but I've got a feeling that the actual brilliance and depth of the ending, which is what elevates it from a really good game to an absolute coup of storytelling, may well be completely lost on you if you haven't played the first one.
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post Apr 8 2013, 01:31 PM
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Yeah, I was kind of afraid you'd say that smile.gif

Well, I have plenty of games to play. It's not like I need a new game or anything. I still haven't finished the new Tomb Raider. I'm playing it with a friend and, unlike myself, she actually has a life. So we're progressing slowly.

Actually, I think it's kind of interesting what we're doing. We've invented a sort of low-rent, home-made, co-op multiplayer. The two of us have two computers running at the same time. Our main gaming computers run Tomb Raider. The second computers run an instant messaging program.

We send our two Lara Crofts through the same areas at the same time, texting back and forth on our second computers as we play. It's a wonderful combination of single-player experience combined with some of the companionship of playing an MMO.

We're talking about playing other games like this. We both play Elder Scrolls games so we might start playing Oblivion and Skyrim this way too.

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post Apr 8 2013, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Apr 8 2013, 01:31 PM) *

Yeah, I was kind of afraid you'd say that smile.gif

Well, I have plenty of games to play. It's not like I need a new game or anything. I still haven't finished the new Tomb Raider. I'm playing it with a friend and, unlike myself, she actually has a life. So we're progressing slowly.

Actually, I think it's kind of interesting what we're doing. We've invented a sort of low-rent, home-made, co-op multiplayer. The two of us have two computers running at the same time. Our main gaming computers run Tomb Raider. The second computers run an instant messaging program.

We send our two Lara Crofts through the same areas at the same time, texting back and forth on our second computers as we play. It's a wonderful combination of single-player experience combined with some of the companionship of playing an MMO.

We're talking about playing other games like this. We both play Elder Scrolls games so we might start playing Oblivion and Skyrim this way too.

Interesting idea, I must say. How do you do the chat and the game at the same time, out of interest? Whenever I try to alt-tab into Skype or anything out of most games, my computer just throws a great big hissy fit.
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 8 2013, 06:10 AM) *

How do you do the chat and the game at the same time, out of interest? Whenever I try to alt-tab into Skype or anything out of most games, my computer just throws a great big hissy fit.

I probably wasn't very clear. We both use two computers: she uses two and I use two. So altogether we are using four computers. Both of us keep our second computers located right next to our gaming computers. When I play Tomb Raider with her I have both keyboards sitting right next to each other. I move my hands back and forth between the gaming keyboard and mouse and the IM keyboard and mouse. She does the same thing on her end.

We live on opposite sides of the US and I don't own a telephone. We both had unused computers lying around, so she got the idea of turning them into dedicated, always-on, instant messaging terminals - something like the hot line between Washington and Moscow. We message back and forth any time of the day or night. Since these extra computers were constantly connected to each other anyway, heck, why not use them while gaming? smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2013, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Apr 8 2013, 02:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 8 2013, 06:10 AM) *

How do you do the chat and the game at the same time, out of interest? Whenever I try to alt-tab into Skype or anything out of most games, my computer just throws a great big hissy fit.

I probably wasn't very clear. We both use two computers: she uses two and I use two. So altogether we are using four computers. Both of us keep our second computers located right next to our gaming computers. When I play Tomb Raider with her I have both keyboards sitting right next to each other. I move my hands back and forth between the gaming keyboard and mouse and the IM keyboard and mouse. She does the same thing on her end.

We live on opposite sides of the US and I don't own a telephone. We both had unused computers lying around, so she got the idea of turning them into dedicated, always-on, instant messaging terminals - something like the hot line between Washington and Moscow. We message back and forth any time of the day or night. Since these extra computers were constantly connected to each other anyway, heck, why not use them while gaming? smile.gif

Ah, I get what you mean. Neat idea!
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post Apr 8 2013, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Apr 8 2013, 09:47 AM) *

QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 8 2013, 06:10 AM) *

How do you do the chat and the game at the same time, out of interest? Whenever I try to alt-tab into Skype or anything out of most games, my computer just throws a great big hissy fit.

I probably wasn't very clear. We both use two computers: she uses two and I use two. So altogether we are using four computers. Both of us keep our second computers located right next to our gaming computers. When I play Tomb Raider with her I have both keyboards sitting right next to each other. I move my hands back and forth between the gaming keyboard and mouse and the IM keyboard and mouse. She does the same thing on her end.

We live on opposite sides of the US and I don't own a telephone. We both had unused computers lying around, so she got the idea of turning them into dedicated, always-on, instant messaging terminals - something like the hot line between Washington and Moscow. We message back and forth any time of the day or night. Since these extra computers were constantly connected to each other anyway, heck, why not use them while gaming? smile.gif

Wow, a hot line! That is just brilliant! I have a second PC next to my gaming rig as well, though I usually do not use it for much. It does come in handy for looking up console codes, or looking through a game faq or wiki if I am stuck.


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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Apr 8 2013, 09:47 PM) *

I have a second PC next to my gaming rig as well, though I usually do not use it for much. It does come in handy for looking up console codes, or looking through a game faq or wiki if I am stuck.

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QUOTE(McBadgere @ Apr 7 2013, 08:53 PM) *

Oooh...My latest Fallout 3 playthrough came to an end today after several freezing episodes during the Endgame to Broken Steel...Fun though it was to go over the same ground several times...*Rollseyes*...


Fallout 3! Brings back memories. It's the only RPG where I actually had only one serious character and about four or five test ones that didn't make it even to Megaton because I changed my mind about them. I have/had multiple characters in all other RPGs that I've played but not FO3. I think this condition is called mirocu's syndrome biggrin.gif . My character Ronny completed MQ and all the DLCs except Anchorage, I lost interest in FO3 by then and returned to Oblivion. It's a shame but he got deleted when I bought a new laptop.

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QUOTE(Lopov @ Apr 8 2013, 09:51 PM) *

I have/had multiple characters in all other RPGs that I've played but not FO3. I think this condition is called mirocu's syndrome biggrin.gif

Hey! Thatīs mirocuīs syndrome TM to you! tongue.gif

I didnīt know you played FO3. Or did I just forget about it?


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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 8 2013, 09:55 PM) *

I didnīt know you played FO3. Or did I just forget about it?


I did yes, but after New Vegas. It wasn't true RP really, I was using online map to discover all possible locations because I didn't know that you can see nearby locations on a compass. Which of course means that I didn't know this in FNV before either. blink.gif biggrin.gif My character Ronny was a good guy, helping almost everyone and never killed an innocent being, he was sometimes merciful to his enemies. But he didn't spare Augustus Autumn. nono.gif

I liked it a lot, in some aspects even more than FNV but overall I like FNV more.

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