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post Apr 16 2013, 06:11 PM
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post Apr 16 2013, 06:14 PM
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I think that is the only answer, unless he's trying to quash the most hospitable hotel in America. (With its great buffet).

Seems legit.


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post Apr 16 2013, 06:16 PM
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post Apr 16 2013, 06:24 PM
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Has anyone ever heard of the Shattered Lives Program? It's a program that goes from highschool to highschool and teaches them about drunk driving...by taking students from the school and staging an accident in the school parking lot. People the students know are taken away in handcuffs as the driver that drove drunk, or put in bodybags as the victims. Later, students walk the halls with their faces painted white as "ghosts" and can't talk to anyone, have to eat at their own table, etc.

My brother is in the program. The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life. The kids involved aren't allowed to go home and are instead taken to a hotel.

I called my mom and asked if she was okay. She sounded rough. She's expecting the call to tell her he "died." I told her to call me. Tomorrow is the assembly where they reunite with the families.

EDIT: Guhh, my mom just got the call. They pulled my brother from class(The Grim Reaper comes in and takes you out of the classroom) just as his girlfriend was walking by.

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post Apr 16 2013, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 09:24 AM) *

Has anyone ever heard of the Shattered Lives Program? It's a program that goes from highschool to highschool and teaches them about drunk driving...by taking students from the school and staging an accident in the school parking lot. People the students know are taken away in handcuffs as the driver that drove drunk, or put in bodybags as the victims. Later, students walk the halls with their faces painted white as "ghosts" and can't talk to anyone, have to eat at their own table, etc.

My brother is in the program. The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life. The kids involved aren't allowed to go home and are instead taken to a hotel.

I called my mom and asked if she was okay. She sounded rough. She's expecting the call to tell her he "died." I told her to call me. Tomorrow is the assembly where they reunite with the families.

EDIT: Guhh, my mom just got the call. They pulled my brother from class(The Grim Reaper comes in and takes you out of the classroom) just as his girlfriend was walking by.



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post Apr 16 2013, 07:05 PM
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It's a good program. Just terrifying.


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post Apr 16 2013, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 01:24 PM) *

Has anyone ever heard of the Shattered Lives Program? It's a program that goes from highschool to highschool and teaches them about drunk driving...by taking students from the school and staging an accident in the school parking lot. People the students know are taken away in handcuffs as the driver that drove drunk, or put in bodybags as the victims. Later, students walk the halls with their faces painted white as "ghosts" and can't talk to anyone, have to eat at their own table, etc.

My brother is in the program. The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life. The kids involved aren't allowed to go home and are instead taken to a hotel.

I called my mom and asked if she was okay. She sounded rough. She's expecting the call to tell her he "died." I told her to call me. Tomorrow is the assembly where they reunite with the families.

EDIT: Guhh, my mom just got the call. They pulled my brother from class(The Grim Reaper comes in and takes you out of the classroom) just as his girlfriend was walking by.



They should do that here, we lose at least one student per year on "after-graduation" parties to drunk driving. What they do here is a bit different, they pick up the students and bring them to the scene of a drunk driving accident, then bring them to the morgue where they have to see the victims of the drunk driver. Really gross shocker, but it does scare a good portion of them into thinking before they drink and drive.




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post Apr 16 2013, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 06:24 PM) *
Has anyone ever heard of the Shattered Lives Program? It's a program that goes from highschool to highschool and teaches them about drunk driving...by taking students from the school and staging an accident in the school parking lot. People the students know are taken away in handcuffs as the driver that drove drunk, or put in bodybags as the victims. Later, students walk the halls with their faces painted white as "ghosts" and can't talk to anyone, have to eat at their own table, etc.

My brother is in the program. The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life. The kids involved aren't allowed to go home and are instead taken to a hotel.

I called my mom and asked if she was okay. She sounded rough. She's expecting the call to tell her he "died." I told her to call me. Tomorrow is the assembly where they reunite with the families.

EDIT: Guhh, my mom just got the call. They pulled my brother from class(The Grim Reaper comes in and takes you out of the classroom) just as his girlfriend was walking by.

That sound like the most heavy-handed and idiotic method you could possibly employ to try and educate kids about it. What kind of lunatic thought that one up?
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post Apr 16 2013, 07:11 PM
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So, applied for another job today. Dont think Ill get it though but then again Ive got that sweet deal at Lizs work! biggrin.gif


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post Apr 16 2013, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 16 2013, 01:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 06:24 PM) *
Has anyone ever heard of the Shattered Lives Program? It's a program that goes from highschool to highschool and teaches them about drunk driving...by taking students from the school and staging an accident in the school parking lot. People the students know are taken away in handcuffs as the driver that drove drunk, or put in bodybags as the victims. Later, students walk the halls with their faces painted white as "ghosts" and can't talk to anyone, have to eat at their own table, etc.

My brother is in the program. The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life. The kids involved aren't allowed to go home and are instead taken to a hotel.

I called my mom and asked if she was okay. She sounded rough. She's expecting the call to tell her he "died." I told her to call me. Tomorrow is the assembly where they reunite with the families.

EDIT: Guhh, my mom just got the call. They pulled my brother from class(The Grim Reaper comes in and takes you out of the classroom) just as his girlfriend was walking by.

That sound like the most heavy-handed and idiotic method you could possibly employ to try and educate kids about it. What kind of lunatic thought that one up?

Elaborate?


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post Apr 16 2013, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 16 2013, 02:11 PM) *

So, applied for another job today. Dont think Ill get it though but then again Ive got that sweet deal at Lizs work! biggrin.gif



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post Apr 16 2013, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 16 2013, 08:12 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 16 2013, 02:11 PM) *

So, applied for another job today. Dont think Ill get it though but then again Ive got that sweet deal at Lizs work! biggrin.gif


Good luck, Mirocu!

Thanks happy.gif

Sorry guys, I know Im going on and on about my job situation. I just like to share whats happening since youre such good listeners and supporters smile.gif I just hope I can pay you back.. mellow.gif

Many thanks to you all for putting up with me!! biggrin.gif cake.gif Hug_emoticon.gif


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post Apr 16 2013, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 16 2013, 01:17 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 16 2013, 08:12 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 16 2013, 02:11 PM) *

So, applied for another job today. Dont think Ill get it though but then again Ive got that sweet deal at Lizs work! biggrin.gif


Good luck, Mirocu!

Thanks happy.gif

Sorry guys, I know Im going on and on about my job situation. I just like to share whats happening since youre such good listeners and supporters smile.gif I just hope I can pay you back.. mellow.gif

Many thanks to you all for putting up with me!! biggrin.gif cake.gif Hug_emoticon.gif

You're not the only one who's in a bad job situation, trust me. And you can always message me privately about it if you ever feel the need :]


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post Apr 16 2013, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 07:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 16 2013, 01:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 06:24 PM) *
Has anyone ever heard of the Shattered Lives Program? It's a program that goes from highschool to highschool and teaches them about drunk driving...by taking students from the school and staging an accident in the school parking lot. People the students know are taken away in handcuffs as the driver that drove drunk, or put in bodybags as the victims. Later, students walk the halls with their faces painted white as "ghosts" and can't talk to anyone, have to eat at their own table, etc.

My brother is in the program. The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life. The kids involved aren't allowed to go home and are instead taken to a hotel.

I called my mom and asked if she was okay. She sounded rough. She's expecting the call to tell her he "died." I told her to call me. Tomorrow is the assembly where they reunite with the families.

EDIT: Guhh, my mom just got the call. They pulled my brother from class(The Grim Reaper comes in and takes you out of the classroom) just as his girlfriend was walking by.

That sound like the most heavy-handed and idiotic method you could possibly employ to try and educate kids about it. What kind of lunatic thought that one up?

Elaborate?

It basically completely misunderstands teenage methods of thinking, for a start; the fact that it gets completely overblown means that the entire thing will be, at best, ignored and derided as ridiculous. It's heavy-handed, in your face in the most downright stupid and sanctimonious way possible, and clearly upsets parents as evidenced by;
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The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life.

It just strikes me as being in absolutely appalling taste.
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post Apr 16 2013, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 08:18 PM) *

You're not the only one who's in a bad job situation, trust me. And you can always message me privately about it if you ever feel the need :]

Thanks, Liz! happy.gif

Maybe Ill do that if the others start picking on me tongue.gif But you have a solid work situation, right?


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post Apr 16 2013, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 16 2013, 02:17 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 16 2013, 08:12 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Apr 16 2013, 02:11 PM) *

So, applied for another job today. Dont think Ill get it though but then again Ive got that sweet deal at Lizs work! biggrin.gif


Good luck, Mirocu!

Thanks happy.gif

Sorry guys, I know Im going on and on about my job situation. I just like to share whats happening since youre such good listeners and supporters smile.gif I just hope I can pay you back.. mellow.gif

Many thanks to you all for putting up with me!! biggrin.gif cake.gif Hug_emoticon.gif



Hug_emoticon.gif Like Uleni said, this place is a sanctuary from the outside world, a haven of friends that care about each other. We have all spilled on here at one time or another, we are all here for each other when any one of us needs an ear.



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post Apr 16 2013, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 16 2013, 01:22 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 07:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 16 2013, 01:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 06:24 PM) *
Has anyone ever heard of the Shattered Lives Program? It's a program that goes from highschool to highschool and teaches them about drunk driving...by taking students from the school and staging an accident in the school parking lot. People the students know are taken away in handcuffs as the driver that drove drunk, or put in bodybags as the victims. Later, students walk the halls with their faces painted white as "ghosts" and can't talk to anyone, have to eat at their own table, etc.

My brother is in the program. The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life. The kids involved aren't allowed to go home and are instead taken to a hotel.

I called my mom and asked if she was okay. She sounded rough. She's expecting the call to tell her he "died." I told her to call me. Tomorrow is the assembly where they reunite with the families.

EDIT: Guhh, my mom just got the call. They pulled my brother from class(The Grim Reaper comes in and takes you out of the classroom) just as his girlfriend was walking by.

That sound like the most heavy-handed and idiotic method you could possibly employ to try and educate kids about it. What kind of lunatic thought that one up?

Elaborate?

It basically completely misunderstands teenage methods of thinking, for a start; the fact that it gets completely overblown means that the entire thing will be, at best, ignored and derided as ridiculous. It's heavy-handed, in your face in the most downright stupid and sanctimonious way possible, and clearly upsets parents as evidenced by;
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The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life.

It just strikes me as being in absolutely appalling taste.

That's the point. It's supposed to be "in your face." I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there are a LOT of drunk drivers in my area. Two years ago, a friend of mine was killed in one. She wasn't in the program, but she was t-boned by a much larger truck and broke her neck.

It shows people what happens when you do stupid things. That actions have consequences. You don't get the same effect by going "Oh hey, people die in drunk driving accidents." You can't just tell people. You have to SHOW them.

And so far, none of the students in the program, involved or otherwise, have gotten behind the wheel of a car drunk, save for one idiot four years ago who killed two people and is now serving time in prison for manslaughter.

It's supposed to be unsettling, and grisly.


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post Apr 16 2013, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 07:30 PM) *
QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 16 2013, 01:22 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 07:11 PM) *
QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 16 2013, 01:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Apr 16 2013, 06:24 PM) *
Has anyone ever heard of the Shattered Lives Program? It's a program that goes from highschool to highschool and teaches them about drunk driving...by taking students from the school and staging an accident in the school parking lot. People the students know are taken away in handcuffs as the driver that drove drunk, or put in bodybags as the victims. Later, students walk the halls with their faces painted white as "ghosts" and can't talk to anyone, have to eat at their own table, etc.

My brother is in the program. The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life. The kids involved aren't allowed to go home and are instead taken to a hotel.

I called my mom and asked if she was okay. She sounded rough. She's expecting the call to tell her he "died." I told her to call me. Tomorrow is the assembly where they reunite with the families.

EDIT: Guhh, my mom just got the call. They pulled my brother from class(The Grim Reaper comes in and takes you out of the classroom) just as his girlfriend was walking by.

That sound like the most heavy-handed and idiotic method you could possibly employ to try and educate kids about it. What kind of lunatic thought that one up?

Elaborate?

It basically completely misunderstands teenage methods of thinking, for a start; the fact that it gets completely overblown means that the entire thing will be, at best, ignored and derided as ridiculous. It's heavy-handed, in your face in the most downright stupid and sanctimonious way possible, and clearly upsets parents as evidenced by;
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The parents of each student involved have to write a eulogy and it wrecked my mom. My husband was in the program when we were in school and it was the worst few days of my life.

It just strikes me as being in absolutely appalling taste.

That's the point. It's supposed to be "in your face." I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there are a LOT of drunk drivers in my area. Two years ago, a friend of mine was killed in one. She wasn't in the program, but she was t-boned by a much larger truck and broke her neck.

It shows people what happens when you do stupid things. That actions have consequences. You don't get the same effect by going "Oh hey, people die in drunk driving accidents." You can't just tell people. You have to SHOW them.

And so far, none of the students in the program, involved or otherwise, have gotten behind the wheel of a car drunk, save for one idiot four years ago who killed two people and is now serving time in prison for manslaughter.

It's supposed to be unsettling, and grisly.

I'm not denying that there should be education about drunk driving, but I'm saying that this is a sensationalistic and cack-handed method of doing so. Education through trauma is hardly a good way to actually, intelligently engage with people about issues.
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post Apr 16 2013, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Apr 16 2013, 01:33 PM) *

I'm not denying that there should be education about drunk driving, but I'm saying that this is a sensationalistic and cack-handed method of doing so. Education through trauma is hardly a good way to actually, intelligently engage with people about issues.

How would you handle this, then? I'm not being rude or anything, I would just like to know.


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post Apr 16 2013, 07:38 PM
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Think Im on Mustards side here, at least to some extent. Teaching by shocking can be useful sometimes but it should definitely be used with caution.

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