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King Of Beasts
post Aug 8 2013, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Aug 8 2013, 02:35 PM) *

QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Aug 8 2013, 07:34 PM) *

The likelihood of getting stuck in a well in the middle of nowhere is very low, so I'll take my chances with immortality.


Well the chances of gaining immortality are also very low or very high depending on your beliefs.


Exactly. But if it was possible to gain immortality I'd take my chances of falling down a well and getting stuck there for the rest of eternity rather than facing death.


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post Aug 8 2013, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Aug 8 2013, 07:37 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Aug 8 2013, 02:35 PM) *

QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Aug 8 2013, 07:34 PM) *

The likelihood of getting stuck in a well in the middle of nowhere is very low, so I'll take my chances with immortality.


Well the chances of gaining immortality are also very low or very high depending on your beliefs.


Exactly. But if it was possible to gain immortality I'd take my chances of falling down a well and getting stuck there for the rest of eternity rather than facing death.


Suppose.

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post Aug 8 2013, 07:40 PM
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This is getting 2deep4me.

And since Malx said I probaly shouldn't post random cute pictures in the Pet thread if they aren't of my pet,I'll cheer everyone up by posting one here.

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post Aug 8 2013, 07:44 PM
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PUPPY!!!!


MUST. CUDDLE. WITH. IT!!!


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post Aug 8 2013, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Aug 8 2013, 07:44 PM) *

PUPPY!!!!


MUST. CUDDLE. WITH. IT!!!


Just call upon me,and I shall give you a picture,cute or funny!

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post Aug 8 2013, 08:09 PM
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MONKEY WITH A FLOWER!

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Ok now I'll stop.
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post Aug 8 2013, 08:10 PM
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Not sure if I wanna pet that little guy blink.gif


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post Aug 8 2013, 08:10 PM
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Actually, a form of biological immortality already exists in two forms.

Form one: A species of jellyfish reverts back to a fetal-like stage and effectively regenerates it's cells negating any all aging that has effected it. Scientists have determined this does not effect the length of it's telomeres: the 'bungee cords' that hold chromosomes together and shorten with each cellular replication which is the 'cause' of aging.

There is nothing in your DNA that is coded to grow older and die, as such modern medicine has classified aging as a disease.

Form Two: Lobsters!!

Beleive it or not, lobsters produce an enzyme called 'telomerase' that repairs damages sequences of DNA and do not exhibit signs of senescence; or the typical signs of aging such as set growth limits, loss of fertility, or lowered metabolism.

While not quite 'biologically immortal' they still can die from other natural causes, but can live up too fifty years in the wild. The equivalent for humans would be about a five hundred year lifespan, and entering into the Olymipcs and winning the Gold at four hundred.
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post Aug 8 2013, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Aug 8 2013, 03:10 PM) *

Actually, a form of biological immortality already exists in two forms.

Form one: A species of jellyfish reverts back to a fetal-like stage and effectively regenerates it's cells negating any all aging that has effected it. Scientists have determined this does not effect the length of it's telomeres: the 'bungee cords' that hold chromosomes together and shorten with each cellular replication which is the 'cause' of aging.

There is nothing in your DNA that is coded to grow older and die, as such modern medicine has classified aging as a disease.

Form Two: Lobsters!!

Beleive it or not, lobsters produce an enzyme called 'telomerase' that repairs damages sequences of DNA and do not exhibit signs of senescence; or the typical signs of aging such as set growth limits, loss of fertility, or lowered metabolism.

While not quite 'biologically immortal' they still can die from other natural causes, but can live up too fifty years in the wild. The equivalent for humans would be about a five hundred year lifespan, and entering into the Olymipcs and winning the Gold at four hundred.


Woah! That's cool!


Wow, compared to other animals, humans are lame dry.gif save that we're the smartest species on earth.


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post Aug 8 2013, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Aug 8 2013, 03:10 PM) *

Lobsters!!

Beleive it or not, lobsters produce an enzyme called 'telomerase' that repairs damages sequences of DNA and do not exhibit signs of senescence; or the typical signs of aging such as set growth limits, loss of fertility, or lowered metabolism.

While not quite 'biologically immortal' they still can die from other natural causes, but can live up too fifty years in the wild. The equivalent for humans would be about a five hundred year lifespan, and entering into the Olymipcs and winning the Gold at four hundred.



*slurp, drool* I knew there was a reason I loved lobster!!





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post Aug 8 2013, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Aug 8 2013, 12:14 PM) *

Wow, compared to other animals, humans are lame dry.gif save that we're the smartest species on earth.



Smart enough to encode these forms of biological immortality into our own genomes.

If we haven't already.

'They' say that the first human to naturally live to see 150 has already been born, and that the first human who will live too see 1000 will be born in the next fifty years.
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post Aug 8 2013, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 8 2013, 12:17 PM) *

*slurp, drool* I knew there was a reason I loved lobster!!



Oh, seafood within arms reach of me has no chance of existing in it's current form for long.

GET> IN>MAH>BELL-LEE!!
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post Aug 8 2013, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Aug 8 2013, 03:19 PM) *

QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Aug 8 2013, 12:14 PM) *

Wow, compared to other animals, humans are lame dry.gif save that we're the smartest species on earth.



Smart enough to encode these forms of biological immortality into our own genomes.

If we haven't already.

'They' say that the first human to naturally live to see 150 has already been born, and that the first human who will live too see 1000 will be born in the next fifty years.


Woah. How do they predict this? blink.gif


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post Aug 8 2013, 08:29 PM
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By rolling dice.


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post Aug 8 2013, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Aug 8 2013, 12:21 PM) *

Woah. How do they predict this? blink.gif


Based upon statistics of average human lifespan, current medical procedures, et cetera.

We're currently in a timeframe that is unparalleled in human history.

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Here is an example of exponential growth. We're very near the top.

I have clear memories of when cell phones were large clunky devices that only the rich could afford. Now I'm accessing the internet with mine.

The equivalent of this would be from going to a society that had calligraphy is the highest level of written technology to having a telegraph in a couple of years.

And each jump we make pushes us higher than ever before.

One hundred fifty years ago, we had none of these things. No Radio waves, no television, no electronic devices, this entire realm of electronic correspondence was silent. Largely unknown, and completely untapped.

Now....you get the idea.
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post Aug 8 2013, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(Black Hand @ Aug 8 2013, 03:19 PM) *

'They' say that the first human to naturally live to see 150 has already been born, and that the first human who will live too see 1000 will be born in the next fifty years.



Don't worry, I'll still remember you all in my later years...





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post Aug 8 2013, 08:38 PM
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Oh, now I get it now. Each large accomplishment leads to another?


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post Aug 8 2013, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 8 2013, 12:34 PM) *

Don't worry, I'll still remember you all in my later years...


I'll bring flowers to your grave in five hundred years tongue.gif

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Oh, now I get it now. Each large accomplishment leads to another?


Pretty much. Interrelated technologies can both complement and augment each other.

And believe it or not, the primary catalyst for most of these technologies was War. That horrible, terrible aspect of human nature. The Cold War actually fueled much of the advances we've seen since the sixties. GPS? Guided rocket and deep enemy territory!

I've heard it said that War is the highest expression of human capability, but the lowest expression of human consciousness.

Based on what I've seen, I'm inclined to agree. It demands the totality of our creativity, but is channeled into terrible direction.
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post Aug 8 2013, 08:53 PM
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Didn't WWII inspire a lot of today's technology such as radars, jeeps, duct tape, etc.


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post Aug 8 2013, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Aug 8 2013, 12:53 PM) *

Didn't WWII inspire a lot of today's technology such as radars, jeeps, duct tape, etc.



Precisely!

The lost secret of Greek Fire? Doomsday weapon of it's day.

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