What do you mean you don´t see them?

Arena wasn't actually that great of a game,it was a VERY shakey begining to the TES Series(in sales too,only sold 3,000 copies first time around!) and Daggerfall was a bit better but neither have aged well.

What I did to fight the rats was crouch down. That puts you eye to eye with them. Click on Options in the big menu bar at the bottom, and then click on Controls. That will show you the whole keyboard layout. You can remap keys from there as well. One of the first things I did was change the movement keys to WASD.

I did not know you could do that. I may give it another go later if I could move with WASD. Do you still have to click on the edges of the screen to turn?

No, you can use the keys to both turn, and to slide left and right.

You can change the mouse behavior such that you "look" where the mouse is pointing. Tilt up- look up, turn left- look left, etc.

Then attacking would be dizzying, correct?

I'm playing Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 and doing what I usually do; get carried away creating rollercoasters and creating nausea-causing monsters of rides that induce g-forces strong enough to kill a person. Either that, or building kickass swimming pool complexes with awesome waterslides that everyone loves.

Forgot to mention. You can also look up and down with the Insert and Delete keys. But I find crouching to be easier.

Yeah, I know, I just hadn't gotten around to remapping the controls yet. I'll give it a try later this evening, see if it makes the game any less cumbersome.

Personally, I think it already is.

Hmmm. I seem to have done away with the DOS partition I used to play Daggerfall from the original disk.

Let me download the free version and fiddle around a bit, so I can actually pretend to know what I am talking about.

I wonder if the z.cfg edits are still usable with this version? (If so, I strongly recommend them for dungeon-delving, especially dungeons that are quest-related).

Also- during character creation- TAKE the ebony dagger from the Emperor! It will allow you to kill the stupid imp near the end of Pirate's Hold.

Please share when you do. This looks like a good game if I can just get the controls usable.

Helga the Barbarian escaped Privateers Hold and is current in Uptown looking to sell off her loot. I discovered that the Elven weapons can harm the imps. So I just went around the imps at first, then once I got my first elven longsword I went back and hacked them to pieces.

I finally figured out how to attack. You have to put the cursor at one of the screen edges, then hold down the right mouse button and move it toward the opposite screen. Then you attack.

I started using the mouse look, and so far I prefer it over the default way it works. Attacking is not so bad. When you hold down the right mouse button the screen freezes, then you move your mouse and it attacks. Just be sure you have the button down before you move the mouse, otherwise you are going to wind up looking the other way instead of slashing! Press the Enter key when you want to go back into cursor mode, then you can click on the things on the menu. Or memorize the keybindings and you never need to do that.

This post has been edited by SubRosa: Nov 9 2013, 11:02 PM

Still sounds a bit awkward

Tried Arena yet, Sub?

It is actually not that bad at all. Especially for a game that is 17 years old. I do not think it is any worse than playing Duke Nukem 3d was back in the day, or Blood.

I used the tweaks on the download page to smooth the performance, and I think that may have helped some.

I stared up Arena just to see if it works, but have not really played any of it. I think I will probably stick with Daggerfall for a while first. Two of the characters in my current fic were involved in the events in Daggerfall - One was the Agent/Hero, and the other his companion. So I am more interested in it than Arena.

This post has been edited by SubRosa: Nov 9 2013, 11:06 PM

Still fire up DN3D once in awhile

Love the Dark side of the moon stage best!

Yes- mouse look on, so your "head" moves with the mouse.

For those of us who are less dexterous, it also help to reverse the mouse buttons for attacking, so that holding down LEFT mouse and then "swinging" launches the attack.

Another character creation trick that can be very helpful is with the restrictions.

Toss out some of the weaker materials for armor and weapons (iron for example). Then put the points toward something else...

Be careful of big restrictions- like "healing only in darkness" (or light).

If you don't mind cheating in character creation, you can also exploit racial immunities versus "Weakness to" negatives. (Or you used to be able to- if that has not been patched).

For example- if your race is immune to poison, you can get the points for Weakness Poison without risk.

ETA- You can edit the z.cfg file. The main purpose of this is to enable Cheatmode. That may seem- well, like cheating- because it is.

However, the reason to do so is to be able to use left and right bracket [ and ] to go from place to place in the sprawling, randomly generated dungeons. Those places include- quest targets and the EXIT.

Alternately, if you do not like cheating- DO go to a Mages Guild or Temple and purchase the Mark and Recall spell. When you first enter a dungeon- set your Mark at the entrance.

As far as the DOSBox method of playing, I think it would work better on a full DOS partition (if one is a DOS dinosaur like me).

Or, if that is too much work, writing a simple batch file with all the mount commands will save time when you want to play.

This post has been edited by treydog: Nov 10 2013, 03:04 AM

*Reads complicated Daggerfall stuff. Feels extremely glad to be playing Roller Coaster Tycoon instead*

On that note, check out Tropico Beach! It's my theme park, and it has a volcano! And absurdly cool rollercoasters!

I WANNA COME PLAY!!!