It is an absurdly fun game; that series has been one of my favourites since I was a kid and you've got no idea how happy I was to find a copy of it on GOG after my CDs went walkabout one by one.

Games where you create stuff are always fun

And I'm back to Oblivion, journeying with my old friend Sal

I think that when I next feel the urge to play an older TES game, I'll just break out Morrowind rather than Daggerfall.

This post has been edited by Callidus Thorn: Nov 11 2013, 12:44 PM

Oh no, don´t you quit on me, Callidus!

Sal got impatient, wanted to go roaming. What could I do?

And those cities in Daggerfall really are a mess; huge, apparently random, with no logic whatsoever to their layout. I found three or four taverns in Daggerfall City within spitting distance of each other, and I couldn't find the weaponsmith, even using the map.

Vivec was better laid out than that.

Oh, on the contrary Vivec was intelligently laid out according to logic with an easily navigable layout that oh god I can't type that with a straight face any more.

That does sound pretty dire, though. Yeah, randomisation can work; just look at Minecraft and FTL; but if you're trying to make a realistic game world through it then I really don't see how anybody thought that that was a good idea.

Witcher II
A.W.E.S.O.M.E.

I have to ask:

Roche or Iorveth?

And I mean which path through the game and which one do you like more as a character.

Personally, I'm a big fan of Roche, that magnificent bastard

This post has been edited by Callidus Thorn: Nov 11 2013, 04:54 PM

That's because they ARE random. At least they were at the point that Bethesda generated them.

There are a number of layout blocks that are randomly assembled into cities, and the specification in the game files just lists the blocks that make up that particular city. The dungeons are made the same way. You only need one copy of each building block, and a lot of lists of how they go together. With texture palettes thrown in to make one regions cities/dungeons look different from another's, you can get a lot of variety without a huge investment (or memory requirement). There are really only a couple of the city tile-sets - desert and other - with texture changes making all the difference. Even the major capitals - Daggerfall, Sentinel etc. have just one unique block surrounded by random ones.

The taverns do cluster, because there are several blocks that have a set of two or three taverns together. The same with shops, where the same four or five shop clusters appear in multiple cities.

This post has been edited by ghastley: Nov 11 2013, 04:58 PM

Yeesh, randomly generated cities?

Aaaand I'm done with Daggerfall.

Waiting for Bioshock Infinite's first proper DLC (no, you don't count, Clash in the Clouds. Get back in your corner) to download. Not sure if glaring at my router is actually succeeding in making my internet connection go any faster, but it's making me feel a little bit better.

Oblivion. I apparently have no saved games, so it's from scratch I go!

I wish we had a minecraft server so we could all play together.

I know some of you play it.

I play it!!!!

We could use the Beth Forum's server I guess.

I'm gonna build an adventure map in Minecraft!

Best place to start, imo. I don't know about you, but I've never been able to pick up and play an old character after not playing them for a while.

And I think I'm gonna have to take another run at Dragon's Dogma. I picked up Dark Arisen but I've yet to get around to it.


Yes! Two portals!

This post has been edited by Callidus Thorn: Nov 12 2013, 08:47 PM

"No save files? Yeah, sure whatever"

If I rolled up Oblivion and found no save files, I´d get a friggin heart attack!

Both are excellent in their own way. You have to try both sides to really appreciate the story and to really get both sides of the things that are happening.

On another note I finally beat Dragon's Dogma. Most epic boss battle in video game history. It is also very surprising that in the post game, the devs were pretty harsh. No happily ever after ending to be found with this one.

Considering I lost my 300 hour game years ago, I'm alright with starting over, lol