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post Jan 3 2014, 10:28 PM
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post Jan 3 2014, 10:28 PM
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Why are we talking about Dandilions?

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Jan 3 2014, 09:17 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jan 3 2014, 04:11 PM) *

I'm sorry, but that's just paranoid.

The world is the way it is purely because of greed.

It's not governments, it's the rich bastards funding their election campaigns, and they don't want us dead, or they couldn't profit off us.

There's more than enough money and food to develop all those third world countries and stop people from ever starving. But there's no profit in it. So it doesn't happen.

Those that want change don't have the power to implement it. And those who have the power, don't want te change.

But it's not governments that created the modern world, it's capitalism.


No, it's both. The government is greedy. They want to suck our savings up for themselves.


The governement are the middle men, the ones carrying out the orders. But it's the ones giving them the money they need to run for office who make the decisions.

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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jan 3 2014, 03:11 PM) *

I'm sorry, but that's just paranoid.

The world is the way it is purely because of greed.

It's not governments, it's the rich bastards funding their election campaigns, and they don't want us dead, or they couldn't profit off us.

There's more than enough money and food to develop all those third world countries and stop people from ever starving. But there's no profit in it. So it doesn't happen.

Those that want change don't have the power to implement it. And those who have the power, don't want te change.

But it's not governments that created the modern world, it's capitalism.

I agree with this statement.

However, I'm not above thinking there isn't some hidden agenda somewhere. Give the American government officials our healthcare and paygrade and see how quickly things change around here. Let them live a few months doing what I do (which is not DIFFICULT but it is blue collar work, getting paid juuuuuuuust above minimum wage and still below the poverty line) for the money that I get paid and let them try to live off of that. Then make them think that they'll never get back to where they were before. They'll never again go to a five-star restaurant, or live in anything better than a two-bedroom apartment with crappy maintanence, no washers and dryers, washing their clothes in the sink. Let all of them who never had to work a damn day in their lives do that, who grew up rich and never having to work through public school and having their arts program cut for budget reasons. something the people they govern have to go through.

I want someone in office that came from where I am.

My only fear is that they'd be torn apart.


Unfortunately if they weren't torn apart they'd just go back with new ideas on how to make the situation less bearable. And of course, no-one who isn't wealthy to begin with successfully gets into politics, and no-one gets anywhere in politics without selling out.


The simple fact of the matter is this: With the demise of the monarchies, the whole "divine right of kings" deal, a new method of keeping the majority in line was needed. Money has become that method, and democracy is used solely to make people think they still have an actual say on what happens in their country.

Basically it's the real world equivalent of the Matrix.

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:31 PM
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Zombies=possible

Not all politicians=bad

Straight Edge=good

There I fixed everything.

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:34 PM
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Agreed with Callidus there. Politicians just carry out their orders and we have no say so which is why I never bother to vote because it makes no real difference anyway. Politics = evil, and I want nothing to do with that.

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 03:31 PM) *

Zombies=possible

Not all politicians=bad

Straight Edge=good

There I fixed everything.

No one said all politicians were bad.

Straight edge isn't always the best thing to be. If everyone was straight-edge, we'd be demonizing the ones who were less-straight-edge.


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post Jan 3 2014, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(Elisabeth Hollow @ Jan 3 2014, 10:35 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 03:31 PM) *

Zombies=possible

Not all politicians=bad

Straight Edge=good

There I fixed everything.

No one said all politicians were bad.

No, there are good guys out there too. They just arent allowed to be heard as much as the bad ones or rise in the hierarchy (sp?)


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post Jan 3 2014, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 09:31 PM) *

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:41 PM
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A stupid 90's word meaning you dont do any kind of drugs whatsoever, including coffee and such.

I believe some drugs can actually be very beneficial, just as some can be very bad.


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post Jan 3 2014, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jan 3 2014, 04:39 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 09:31 PM) *

Straight Edge=good


Erm...

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A straight edge is a punk rocker who does not take drugs or drink alcohol.


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post Jan 3 2014, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jan 3 2014, 09:39 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 09:31 PM) *

Straight Edge=good


Erm...

WTF is straight edge? huh.gif


A way of life,used in the punk scene in the 90's.

Also hey,I don't knock you opinions Mirocu,don't call mine stupid.
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post Jan 3 2014, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 10:42 PM) *

Also hey,I don't knock you opinions Mirocu,don't call mine stupid.

Why do you always take offense from what Im saying? I didnt call your opinions stupid and I never will, only the phrase Straight Edge.

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 3 2014, 09:41 PM) *

A stupid 90's word meaning you dont do any kind of drugs whatsoever, including coffee and such.

I believe some drugs can actually be very beneficial, just as some can be very bad.

QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jan 3 2014, 09:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jan 3 2014, 04:39 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 09:31 PM) *

Straight Edge=good


Erm...

WTF is straight edge? huh.gif

A straight edge is a punk rocker who does not take drugs or drink alcohol.

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 09:42 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Jan 3 2014, 09:39 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 09:31 PM) *

Straight Edge=good


Erm...

WTF is straight edge? huh.gif


A way of life,used in the punk scene in the 90's.

Also hey,I don't knock you opinions Mirocu,don't call mine stupid.


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post Jan 3 2014, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 3 2014, 09:44 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 10:42 PM) *

Also hey,I don't knock you opinions Mirocu,don't call mine stupid.

Why do you always take offense from what Im saying? I didnt call your opinions stupid and I never will, only the phrase Straight Edge.


The phrase is my opinion,so I took offence when you called it stupid.

I just don't like seeing people taken a well trodden path that leads to bad places.

This always seems to happen with me,everything turns into a fight.
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post Jan 3 2014, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 10:46 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 3 2014, 09:44 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 10:42 PM) *

Also hey,I don't knock you opinions Mirocu,don't call mine stupid.

Why do you always take offense from what Im saying? I didnt call your opinions stupid and I never will, only the phrase Straight Edge.


The phrase is my opinion,so I took offence when you called it stupid.

You may agree with it but I can call that phrase whatever I want. I first heard it in the 90's and I thought it was stupid back then too. I beg you, stop taking offense all the time. I didnt insult your opinion.


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post Jan 3 2014, 10:50 PM
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Take it easy, impy, no reason to get offended so easily. Mirocu has no intentions of offending you or anyone else


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post Jan 3 2014, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 09:46 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 3 2014, 09:44 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jan 3 2014, 10:42 PM) *

Also hey,I don't knock you opinions Mirocu,don't call mine stupid.

Why do you always take offense from what Im saying? I didnt call your opinions stupid and I never will, only the phrase Straight Edge.


The phrase is my opinion,so I took offence when you called it stupid.

I just don't like seeing people taken a well trodden path that leads to bad places.

This always seems to happen with me,everything turns into a fight.


Erm, your opinion seems to be that people shouldn't drink or do drugs, which I agree with in general terms.

I do think "straight edge" is a daft term though, simply becaue it doesn't really have anything to do with the opinion.

Case in point being the fact that I had no idea what you meant when you said "straight edge", rather than the opinion that it actually refers to.

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QUOTE(King Of Beasts @ Jan 3 2014, 10:50 PM) *

Take it easy, impy, no reason to get offended so easily. Mirocu has no intentions of offending you or anyone else

I dont! I respect anyones opinion but I can think what I want about a phrase.


Impsnob, you misunderstood me. I would never insult you or your opinion on anything and I hoped you knew that by now.

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post Jan 3 2014, 10:54 PM
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Lets just all make up, no reason in starting arguments. Mirocu is right, he can have an opinion about that particular phrase.

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