Friday in the morrow! Haven´t had a job in a year but it´s still a nice feeling!

That's pretty much what they had in Oblivion. There was a special stone, one for each birthsign, which gave you a once a day power, but you could only have one.

And considering I've nothing but hate for Skyrim, I really don't need another reason, no matter how small

You should get a gun and become a hitman.

Also why the Skyrim hate?



This post has been edited by ImperialSnob: Apr 10 2014, 10:16 PM

Yes, I quite agree...Well, with the second bit anyways...

It was the daughter who found it...My occasionally very angry 15 year old daughter...Who likes both Japanese/Korean/Pop-Chinese culture and the odd RAH-Rawk song...So finding them combined?...She's pretty well sold on them...

And, if she likes something, that's good enough for me...At least she's not all "Oooooh One-Direction!! Ooooh *Insert arsey-pop-idiot here...And crush him*...If I can see a decent reason for her to like it then I don't care that it's completely manufactured...

Actually, I'm not against completely manufactured bands at all, so long as it's a decent tune...

Talking of which...(Decent tunes)...Here's this one again...By a not manufactured band...

Far too many reasons for me to list.

No really, I don't think they allow enough characters in a post for the full "I hate Skyrim, and here's why" rant.

Steady on old chap...I've got my well documented issues with Skyrim, but even I wouldn't go so far as hate... ...

McB´s McAngry McDaughter got some good taste in McMusic sometimes..

Actually, no joke 1D are not that bad now.

They must of sacked the pickup artist writes who wouldn't dare go into specifics about the girl they're singing about because then "you wouldn't be able to imagine it's you!".

Best Song Ever, is a pretty good song.

The name sounds d*****y but makes sense in the context of the song(being with a hot girl=all music sounding good) and they go into specifics about the girl.

Now give her Fear Factory, make her into a woman

This post has been edited by ImperialSnob: Apr 10 2014, 10:24 PM

It is not only the final nail in the coffin for proper TES games, it's the smoking gun that shot it dead.

Not to mention it being emblematic of virtually everything that's wrong in the current games market.

You'd better believe I hate it.

Are you saying it's streamlined?

Let's all be honest here, all TES games are always more streamlined than the last.

Even are beloved Oblivion is defintatly a bit easier to understand than MW.

Also I don't think we as humans, understand how powerful the word hate is.

Hate is something that drives a man to take a human life, this is video games....and they r srs buzsiness

This post has been edited by ImperialSnob: Apr 10 2014, 10:28 PM

Skyrim is a monument to style over substance: a gutted magic system to allow for visual effects. Differences in race now little more than aesthetics. Attributes removed in favour of a perk system that's literally written in the stars, armour parts merged in favour of appearance. And don't getme started on the whole radiant quest mechanic.

And then there's the pandering to the epic junkies: Battling dragons all over the place. The entirety of the shout mechanic. Two weapon fighting implemented in the most idiotic way possible. And a main quest that effectively pits you against the destroyer of the universe.

And then there's the whole "too spreadsheety" debacle.

I could keep on going, but these in my mind are the biggies, and without even a mention of streamlining.

This post has been edited by Callidus Thorn: Apr 10 2014, 10:36 PM

Easy now, fellas..


Well, I´m signing off for today. See ya!

Impy asked, I've answered.

I've said my piece, and I'm not inclined to dwell on the subject any longer.


Later, 'Rocu

1.No, the magic system isn't gutted.

2.There were never really that different in Oblivion besides some useful racials.

3.I like the perk system alot actually.

4.Can't disagree with that though.

5.It's pretty alright, it was a bit over hyped.

6."Pandering" yeah right, the dragon fights are fun albeit they could of been a bit less frequent. The shout mechanic is fun though, and it fits in with the story. The dual wielding is done as well as they could of done it.
Yes...and what was the OB MQ again...oh right...it pitted you against the destroyer of the universe. Yeah.

7.What? Too spreadsheety? No it's not.

EDIT:You don't want to dwell on it any longer? It's a video game not some controversial topic.

Hayley Williams new hair, now that's controversial.

Still a 9.5/10

This post has been edited by ImperialSnob: Apr 10 2014, 11:00 PM

No because 7 is a registered sex offender

*Sigh*

As you wish...



An entire school of magic: removed. Numerous spell effects: removed. The ability to create your own spells and thereby customise your character's use of magic: removed.



Compare an Oblivion Orc to an Oblivion Altmer, before picking a birthsign:

The Orc is half again as srtong as the Altmer, with a carrying capacity to match, and will be more damaging with melee weapons as a result. He is partially resistant to magicka, he has greater health, but his lower personality means lower disposition with those he meets. and then there's his once a day ability.

Meanwhile the Altmer is naturally resistant to disease, carries an inherent weakness to all three elments, and has significantly more mgicka than the Orc.

That's without taking into account skill bonuses. Can you honestly say Skyrim matches that?



If the perk system were something more like Fallout's it might have had some merit, as it stands it is a particularly poor substitute for attributes, and has a large number of perks that are simply percentage increases.



It was a lazy attempt to add greater staying power to the game, not to mention being criminally overused.



Yes, pandering. Dragons are all too often brought in as one of the biggest, most dangerous enemies fantasy has to offer. How many can you fight in Skyrim?

The shouts are magic for those who don't want to play mages, and the reason the magic system was gutted.

Dual wielding simply shouldn't be in a game of this type. In something like Morrowind, where character skill determines ability to hit, perhaps. Trying to fight with a weapon in each hand is at best going to result in a great many misses, and would get a novice attempting it killed in seconds.

And Oblivion has you



"Too spreadsheety" was said by Todd Howard, I believe in reference to attributes and/or spellmaking (can't remember precisely, can't be bothered to dig out the quote). Regardless, it was used as a reason for the removal of features. Frankly it's ridiculous.

And now I'm really done. I have stated my opinion, and explained it. I see no reason to continue arguing back and forth about it.

This post has been edited by Callidus Thorn: Apr 10 2014, 11:29 PM

Just gonna say I'm actually on the fence as far as skyrim is concerned. It is undoubtably that the
game is 'simplified' for a wider-audience and this annoys me. However it's still a good world and I can easily RP around most things. On the whole I still greatly enjoyed the game.

One thing I will say is that more streamlining occurred between daggerfall morrowind and oblivion than between oblivion and skyrim.

Magic was undoubtedly streamlined. Purely on the decrease in spell-types. I liked bein able to dual-cast spells and the way the early destruction spells flow is cool. Dragons were a bit of an overkill but TEs fans have been asking for dragons long before the attention lacking little kids arrived. Dual-wielding again was a popular request among long time TES fans and not being able to block actually makes it balanced. If you could block there'd be no point in having a shield.

The leveling system was overly-simple. But the previous system was broken anyway. Any class system where I have to choose skills I will never use to stop my character from being destroyed is broken. Bethesda simply decided to scratch it instead of fix it. Not a good choice but no game-breaking.

Also, haven't we always been the potential destroyer of the world? Skyrim just took it more literally.

Overall Skyrim is definitely streamlined to an extent that does the series no favors in my eyes but is it hate-able even without even playing? Not really. Of course everyone is entitled to an opinion.

This post has been edited by Vital: Apr 10 2014, 11:32 PM

Mornin' Vital

For you any rate.

I'll be getting some shuteye soon

evenin' Callidus.

Got my daily debate out of the way so what's up?

Nothing much.

Just reading some Buffy the Bowgirl

Not particularly tired, so I'll probably get through another couple of pages before I call it a night.