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post Feb 19 2015, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 19 2015, 12:47 AM) *

A lot of times when you are having this hard a struggle to write, what you do get out feels tortured to the reader; you don't want that. Wait till you have an inspiration that you can't deny and can't stop writing it out - that kind of writing grabs readers and they can't stop reading - that is what you want.


QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 08:16 AM) *

"You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club."

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I've not written anything but notes for nearly two weeks, worldbuilding and so on. A whole mess of stuff rattling around inside my head, but there's a few holes that I need to patch up. The ideas and inspiration are in there somewhere, I just need to find a starting point. Once I get that first sentence, the rest will write themselves.

But that first step's a real doozy... wacko.gif


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post Feb 19 2015, 12:56 PM
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Write something that you KNOW has to be in there. It may not be the beginning, but it is A beginning. Then figure out how you (and the readers, and the characters) got there.

Words on paper (or screen) are the key when you are stuck. You have notes- write the "connective tissue" that pulls those notes together.

Whatever you do, please do not put yourself into the corner of "this has to be the best opening ever." What do you want the reader to know- what do you want them to wonder about- what has already happened- what is about to happen?


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post Feb 19 2015, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 08:24 AM) *


I've not written anything but notes for nearly two weeks, worldbuilding and so on. A whole mess of stuff rattling around inside my head, but there's a few holes that I need to patch up. The ideas and inspiration are in there somewhere, I just need to find a starting point. Once I get that first sentence, the rest will write themselves.

But that first step's a real doozy... wacko.gif



Oh, I know that one... biggrin.gif ...In the midst of much the same meself, for no fathomable - from a writing standpoint - reason as it really will be little use to the thing I'm putting it in...But I have to know how it all works...


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Write something that you KNOW has to be in there. It may not be the beginning, but it is A beginning. Then figure out how you (and the readers, and the characters) got there.

Words on paper (or screen) are the key when you are stuck. You have notes- write the "connective tissue" that pulls those notes together.

Whatever you do, please do not put yourself into the corner of "this has to be the best opening ever." What do you want the reader to know- what do you want them to wonder about- what has already happened- what is about to happen?



I know that one too!!...

I had this awesome idea for a Sci-Fi thing, a while back...Massive opening bit, which I might have actually managed to finish...for once...Plotted it out, loads of characters...As is my wont... laugh.gif ...Fantastic it was...Well, at least in my head it was... biggrin.gif ...Anyways...Awesome start, plotted to the end of said opening...Massive thing happens™ and then...I realised I didn't actually have a plot to follow it...

So yeah...Make sure there's a point to it before you start properly... laugh.gif ...

Oh, and I started something...Then added another bit that was started earlier...Then another bit...And then got completely lost...

My ADHD knows no bounds... laugh.gif ...
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post Feb 19 2015, 02:33 PM
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post Feb 19 2015, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 19 2015, 02:59 AM) *

Gi mi ma pott o gooold!! biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 19 2015, 03:52 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 19 2015, 02:59 AM) *

Gi mi ma pott o gooold!! biggrin.gif



You're no leprechaun! No pot of gold for you! laugh.gif

Aww, shites me bogger! indifferent.gif


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post Feb 19 2015, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 03:24 AM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 19 2015, 12:47 AM) *

A lot of times when you are having this hard a struggle to write, what you do get out feels tortured to the reader; you don't want that. Wait till you have an inspiration that you can't deny and can't stop writing it out - that kind of writing grabs readers and they can't stop reading - that is what you want.


QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 08:16 AM) *

"You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club."

-Jack London


I've not written anything but notes for nearly two weeks, worldbuilding and so on. A whole mess of stuff rattling around inside my head, but there's a few holes that I need to patch up. The ideas and inspiration are in there somewhere, I just need to find a starting point. Once I get that first sentence, the rest will write themselves.

But that first step's a real doozy... wacko.gif



Then you storyboard. Write out the scenes that you can feel; don't bother with the beginning right now. Once you have the inspired scenes written out, then piece them together/move them around so they fit chronologically the way you want them to; then write the connecting scenes to tie them together.

That will give you a better idea of the story you want to tell; and get your flow going. As you do those scenes, they will inspire other thoughts and ideas about how you want to start the story.

The beginning of the story is only the beginning for the reader, it does not have to be written first.




QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 19 2015, 08:33 AM) *

I want waffles indifferent.gif



Choose, do you want Angry Bird waffles?


http://www.thejoysofboys.com/wp-content/up...s-waffles-3.jpg



Or my perfect homemade?


https://dressthisnest.files.wordpress.com/2...ade-waffles.jpg


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post Feb 19 2015, 05:16 PM
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Homer made!!!! laugh.gif


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post Feb 19 2015, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 19 2015, 11:16 AM) *

Homer made!!!! laugh.gif



Yeah, I would have been afraid to eat the angry bird one myself; but for you it might be considered cannibalism, laugh.gif



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Just to be clear, I did mean waffles made by Homer... biggrin.gif


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post Feb 19 2015, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(treydog @ Feb 19 2015, 11:56 AM) *

Write something that you KNOW has to be in there. It may not be the beginning, but it is A beginning. Then figure out how you (and the readers, and the characters) got there.

Words on paper (or screen) are the key when you are stuck. You have notes- write the "connective tissue" that pulls those notes together.

Whatever you do, please do not put yourself into the corner of "this has to be the best opening ever." What do you want the reader to know- what do you want them to wonder about- what has already happened- what is about to happen?


QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 19 2015, 03:59 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 03:24 AM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 19 2015, 12:47 AM) *

A lot of times when you are having this hard a struggle to write, what you do get out feels tortured to the reader; you don't want that. Wait till you have an inspiration that you can't deny and can't stop writing it out - that kind of writing grabs readers and they can't stop reading - that is what you want.


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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 08:24 AM) *


I've not written anything but notes for nearly two weeks, worldbuilding and so on. A whole mess of stuff rattling around inside my head, but there's a few holes that I need to patch up. The ideas and inspiration are in there somewhere, I just need to find a starting point. Once I get that first sentence, the rest will write themselves.

But that first step's a real doozy... wacko.gif



Oh, I know that one... biggrin.gif ...In the midst of much the same meself, for no fathomable - from a writing standpoint - reason as it really will be little use to the thing I'm putting it in...But I have to know how it all works...


QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 08:16 AM) *

"You can't wait for inspiration. You have to go after it with a club."

-Jack London


I've not written anything but notes for nearly two weeks, worldbuilding and so on. A whole mess of stuff rattling around inside my head, but there's a few holes that I need to patch up. The ideas and inspiration are in there somewhere, I just need to find a starting point. Once I get that first sentence, the rest will write themselves.

But that first step's a real doozy... wacko.gif



Then you storyboard. Write out the scenes that you can feel; don't bother with the beginning right now. Once you have the inspired scenes written out, then piece them together/move them around so they fit chronologically the way you want them to; then write the connecting scenes to tie them together.

That will give you a better idea of the story you want to tell; and get your flow going. As you do those scenes, they will inspire other thoughts and ideas about how you want to start the story.

The beginning of the story is only the beginning for the reader, it does not have to be written first.


Just to clarify, I have started it, 7,000 or so words, the prologue and two scenes from the first chapter(2 of 4, but not the first two), so I've plenty of stuff left to write. The problem I'm having is that I can't find a start for any scenes because I keep getting hung up on the gaps in my notes; missing names and the like(I've got something of an obsessive streak), hence the whole head going to explode issue.

Plenty that I can write, but I keep tripping over myself. mad.gif


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post Feb 19 2015, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 02:33 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 19 2015, 03:59 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Feb 19 2015, 03:24 AM) *

I've not written anything but notes for nearly two weeks, worldbuilding and so on. A whole mess of stuff rattling around inside my head, but there's a few holes that I need to patch up. The ideas and inspiration are in there somewhere, I just need to find a starting point. Once I get that first sentence, the rest will write themselves.

But that first step's a real doozy... wacko.gif



Then you storyboard. Write out the scenes that you can feel; don't bother with the beginning right now. Once you have the inspired scenes written out, then piece them together/move them around so they fit chronologically the way you want them to; then write the connecting scenes to tie them together.

That will give you a better idea of the story you want to tell; and get your flow going. As you do those scenes, they will inspire other thoughts and ideas about how you want to start the story.

The beginning of the story is only the beginning for the reader, it does not have to be written first.


Just to clarify, I have started it, 7,000 or so words, the prologue and two scenes from the first chapter(2 of 4, but not the first two), so I've plenty of stuff left to write. The problem I'm having is that I can't find a start for any scenes because I keep getting hung up on the gaps in my notes; missing names and the like(I've got something of an obsessive streak), hence the whole head going to explode issue.

Plenty that I can write, but I keep tripping over myself. mad.gif



The beginning is always the hardest, that is why I suggested leaving it till last.

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Ha HA!

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*bump*



Canīt have this thread on fifth place.... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(mirocu @ Feb 21 2015, 11:29 AM) *

*bump*



Canīt have this thread on fifth place.... biggrin.gif



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Donīt worry, mALX! I shallst save thee! ohmy.gif



Just hang on, will ya.. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(mALX @ Feb 21 2015, 07:19 PM) *

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So, spent the afternoon with my sister and her boyfriend at their new place. Very nice place and a damn good fun afternoon/evening biggrin.gif


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I just love AlChestBreachīs singing when he credits people rollinglaugh.gif


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