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post Dec 1 2016, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 1 2016, 11:54 AM) *

mALX doesn't keep up with the Kardashians whether the apocalypse came or not.

Lol, this one was speaking broadly and did not necessarily mean anyone here.*

*Though if there are some here, know that the Dominion frowns upon Kardashian upkeeping and we are watching you.

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A wise decision! BTW, is that Foamy or Pillsy in your avatar?
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post Dec 1 2016, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 1 2016, 05:45 PM) *

Hopefully to stave off Ragnarok!

Ragnarok actually means "a new beginning" or similar. Something new and better coming in the wake of the old. The thing is though before that new and better world can come true, the old one must be destroyed to make way which is why ragnarok somewhat wrongfully is associated with destruction.



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post Dec 1 2016, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 1 2016, 06:40 PM) *

QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 1 2016, 05:45 PM) *

Hopefully to stave off Ragnarok!

Ragnarok actually means "a new beginning" or similar. Something new and better coming in the wake of the old. The thing is though before that new and better world can come true, the old one must be destroyed to make way which is why ragnarok somewhat wrongfully is associated with destruction.


Well, there is a lot more said about the fighting and destruction than what followed it. But I always thought the significant thing about Ragnarok was neither the destruction nor the new beginning, but the balance of forces. There was just enough destruction to get rid of the old order, which was able to fight hard enough to prevent the total destruction of everything, thus ensuring a rebirth. So neither aspect is more or less important than the other.


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post Dec 1 2016, 09:54 PM
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That's not something I recognize. Accounts may vary but I've never come across that one. The only one I've heard is about the new world starting up (an event called Ragnarok) and in order for that to happen "the old" must be destroyed. Nothing about "enough" destruction, just destruction, in which the old gods, trolls and monsters fight and die and the old world is destroyed in order to leave room for the new.

The balance of powers sound more like the old world where the gods constantly had to balance the chaos created by the trolls.

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post Dec 1 2016, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 1 2016, 08:54 PM) *

That's not something I recognize. Accounts may vary but I've never come across that one. The only one I've heard is about the new world starting up (an event called Ragnarok) and in order for that to happen "the old" must be destroyed. Nothing about "enough" destruction, just destruction, in which the old gods, trolls and monsters fight and die and the old world is destroyed in order to leave room for the new.

The balance of powers sound more like the old world where the gods constantly had to balance the chaos created by the trolls.


Destruction, yes, but not complete destruction. Elements of the old world survive into the new one, even some of the gods survive or are resurrected. So some of the old world was preserved, but not enough to keep things the way they were. And consider the fighting itself:

The greatest weapons of the Aesir; Mjolnir and Gungnir, to say nothing of their wielders. And they're each met by a monster that slays them, though the monster in turn is slain. Denying all of them any impact of events beyond their personal battles. And in the case of Thor and Jormungand, we see the perfect neutralisation of forces as the two slay each other.

It's not explicitly stated, but the elements are there.


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post Dec 1 2016, 10:31 PM
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Yes, I know this. But in my mind neutralisation of powers is not quite the same as balance of powers.


And my statement stands; Ragnarok is about something new being created rather than the actual fight and destruction which most people think.

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QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 1 2016, 09:31 PM) *

And my statement stands; Ragnarok is about something new being created rather than the actual fight and destruction which most people think.


Eh, I see it as two sides of the same coin. Without the destruction you can't have that new creation. Focusing on one side is just choosing your message.


But I don't see either of us budging on this front, so we'll have to agree to disagree.


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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 1 2016, 10:44 PM) *

Eh, I see it as two sides of the same coin. Without the destruction you can't have that new creation. Focusing on one side is just choosing your message.


But I don't see either of us budging on this front, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

But the thing is we don´t disagree; in order for something new to be created something old has to be destroyed smile.gif


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QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 1 2016, 09:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 1 2016, 10:44 PM) *

Eh, I see it as two sides of the same coin. Without the destruction you can't have that new creation. Focusing on one side is just choosing your message.


But I don't see either of us budging on this front, so we'll have to agree to disagree.

But the thing is we don´t disagree; in order for something new to be created something old has to be destroyed smile.gif


Well, you've said it's about creation rather than destruction, I've said it's about both equally. There's overlap, but now quite agreement.

Though we can both agree that the apocalyptic take that some people get from it is pretty screwy. goodjob.gif


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QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 1 2016, 10:51 PM) *

Well, you've said it's about creation rather than destruction, I've said it's about both equally. There's overlap, but now quite agreement.

It is in the sense that the word Ragnarok means "something new" or similar but yes, I definitely agree that the destruction of the old is equally important since it makes way for the new smile.gif


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post Dec 1 2016, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 1 2016, 09:56 PM) *

And now, Lego Star Wars Christmas advent calender!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Bah! Lego Star Wars had one redeeming feature:

The ability to chop jar jar binks to pieces evillol.gif


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post Dec 1 2016, 11:03 PM
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Incidentally; day number 2 was Jar Jar.



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post Dec 1 2016, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Dec 1 2016, 10:03 PM) *

Incidentally; day number 2 was Jar Jar.



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At least that means it's out of the way.


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post Dec 1 2016, 11:12 PM
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First decent thing and it´s from day nine; an AT-AT commander figure!




This series is btw from 2012 som I´m not cheating tongue.gif


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post Dec 1 2016, 11:15 PM
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Speaking of Lego; the Lego Batman movie has been confirmed to have Billy Dee Williams playing Two Face.


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post Dec 1 2016, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Cain @ Dec 1 2016, 10:15 PM) *

Lego Batman movie


There is just so much wrong with this, I don't even know where to begin sad.gif


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Why? It could work. The last Lego movie was a big hit I´m told.



But then again, so was the SW prequels. I´m told...


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post Dec 1 2016, 11:21 PM
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The Lego movie was legit hilarious. And Lego Batman was a good part of that.


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In any case: sleep.gif


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