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post Dec 20 2016, 04:07 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 19 2016, 06:13 PM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 04:37 PM) *

Dagoth Ur had become a threat The Tribunal couldn't deal with. By that point Sotha Sil and Almalexia had lost Sunder and Keening, denying the Tribunal the source of their power. Those two were practically in hiding, and Vivec was putting so much into maintaining the Ghostfence that he couldn't even leave his palace.

There was no longer anything to be gained by opposing the Nerevarine, who was the only one capable of stopping Dagoth Ur.
Khajiit doesn't think he will ever understand the way The Tribunal acted. If you know you are not a true god then you shouldn't set yourself up as one, because eventually you will be proven false. But hey, it made for one heck of a story!



Power. If your goal is power, and you can get it by creating the image that you are a god - if it works, even for a while, you have achieved your goal.




QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 07:12 PM) *

As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.

All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.

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What if it was all illusion magic? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.

So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?


I was saying that Baar Dau was the illusion.





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post Dec 20 2016, 08:14 AM
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post Dec 20 2016, 08:45 AM
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Good morning, Elder Scrolls nerds! biggrin.gif



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post Dec 20 2016, 09:06 AM
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Hello there, mALX! I see you're sporting the bushy ears look today laugh.gif


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post Dec 20 2016, 09:19 AM
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Hello there, mALX! I see you're sporting the bushy ears look today laugh.gif

She looks like Khajiit's cousin Lynx with the ear tufts!


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post Dec 20 2016, 09:45 AM
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She does! ohmy.gif


Incidentally, I think there is a Lynx snowmobile brand. Is mALX a new salessquirrel for them perhaps? laugh.gif


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post Dec 20 2016, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 20 2016, 12:52 AM) *

QUOTE(Callidus Thorn @ Dec 19 2016, 06:12 PM) *

As long as the Tribunal had access to the Heart, they were gods, albeit gods lacking inherent divinity, so they could get away with it. It was arrogant of them to think that they could maintain it indefinitely, but I suppose arrogance comes with that kind of power. Though Vivec pretty much earned his godhood via other means after the fact. But presenting themselves as gods gave them both authority and control, as well as an unassailable position.

All thing considered, it was probably worth their gamble.

Edit: urgh, it takes me way too long to type mad.gif

This makes sense, Khajiit supposes. It is easy for this one to say they were fools for setting themselves up as gods, but not being true gods (and therefore not omnipotent), they probably didn't foresee the trouble they would have in maintaining their "godhood".


I'm not sure that any entity in TES is omnipotent. Not any of the ones we have any kind of contact with, at least. As for the Tribunal, they thought Dagoth Ur was dead, so what was their that could challenge them? And by the time they learnt he was alive, it was far too late to do anything.

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THORNY !!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!


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I'm now able to type a little with my left hand, but I'm trying to avoid it for the most part. It's not quite painful, but typing anything more than a couple of short sentences is uncomfortable. I've regained just about all of the flexibility in the wrist, though it's still a little weak, and it can't handle much in the way of pressure for any length of time. But even so, it's still improving faster than I expected.

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QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 19 2016, 08:57 PM) *

What if it was all illusion magic? He says "If anyone dares," well, Baar Dau was huge so no one dared oppose Vivec or it. The first one that did dare was the Nerevarine; so Vivec would have to step down since the threat was only an illusion to begin with.

So basically, Vivec had no control over Baar Dau and the Nerevarine called his bluff?


I was saying that Baar Dau was the illusion.


If that were the case it would have disappeared after Vivec vanished.

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post Dec 20 2016, 03:31 PM
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I heard even the mangod Vivec has fallen to the daedra hordes! ohmy.gif


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post Dec 20 2016, 03:43 PM
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Well, he did do the deed with Molag Bal.


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post Dec 20 2016, 04:15 PM
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Well, he IS the magic hermaphrodite after all. It doesn't surprise me that he tumbled with Molag Bal.


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post Dec 20 2016, 04:33 PM
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post Dec 20 2016, 04:38 PM
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post Dec 20 2016, 04:41 PM
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post Dec 20 2016, 04:59 PM
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