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post Dec 31 2016, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 30 2016, 05:57 PM) *

No, different ones. Like the Dark Seducer, Golden Saint, the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild ones - the Wrothgar bear head ones, etc. The goblin and skeleton morphs, etc - those are all quest rewards.

The disguises for quest rewards are the ones you are supposed to put on to blend in with enemies - there are a large number of these in quests throughout the game. Every time I come across one, I put a copy of it in the bank and pick up another one, because when the quest is over they won't be available anymore. When you are doing the quest, if any enemy spots you and sees through your disguise, the disguise disappears - but after the quest is over you can wear that disguise indefinitely (if you have managed to smuggle one to your bank), and some of them are very cute.
Oh ok, gotcha. Khajiit has only come across three disguises: a Bleakrock bandit outfit, an Indoril Vanguard outfit, and a Marine outfit from the Dominion (Feng's alliance quests). He destroyed them all, but then he didn't like them very much anyway.

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post Dec 31 2016, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 30 2016, 07:22 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 30 2016, 05:57 PM) *

No, different ones. Like the Dark Seducer, Golden Saint, the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild ones - the Wrothgar bear head ones, etc. The goblin and skeleton morphs, etc - those are all quest rewards.

The disguises for quest rewards are the ones you are supposed to put on to blend in with enemies - there are a large number of these in quests throughout the game. Every time I come across one, I put a copy of it in the bank and pick up another one, because when the quest is over they won't be available anymore. When you are doing the quest, if any enemy spots you and sees through your disguise, the disguise disappears - but after the quest is over you can wear that disguise indefinitely (if you have managed to smuggle one to your bank), and some of them are very cute.
Oh ok, gotcha. Khajiit has only come across three disguises: a Bleakrock bandit outfit, an Indoril Vanguard outfit, and a Marine outfit from the Dominion (Feng's alliance quests). He destroyed them all, but then he didn't like them very much anyway.



Yes, that Bleakrock one is really cute looking. Misa wore it to cover up her miss-matched armor for her first 26 levels while she picked up anything that was better than what she had on.





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post Dec 31 2016, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Dec 30 2016, 07:01 PM) *

Yes, that Bleakrock one is really cute looking. Misa wore it to cover up her miss-matched armor for her first 26 levels while she picked up anything that was better than what she had on.

Hmmm, this one bets there will be some cool looking ones in Nordland when Mira is up there doing the pact quests!

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post Dec 31 2016, 11:10 PM
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Has any one here created a character who's sole purpose is to hold onto extra crap when bank space gets low?


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post Dec 31 2016, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 31 2016, 04:10 PM) *

Has any one here created a character who's sole purpose is to hold onto extra crap when bank space gets low?


Yes

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They are generally referred to as "Pack Mules" and I have 3. Their inventory is filled up.


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post Dec 31 2016, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(monkeyemoness @ Dec 31 2016, 04:23 PM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 31 2016, 04:10 PM) *

Has any one here created a character who's sole purpose is to hold onto extra crap when bank space gets low?


Yes

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They are generally referred to as "Pack Mules" and I have 3. Their inventory is filled up.

Gah, Khajiit is such a gnoob lol
Should've known that others have done it.

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post Dec 31 2016, 11:34 PM
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It's particularly painful if you're both an alt-aholic AND a hoarder. I only have one character slot left open, and I had to buy it. One is used up by a replay of Eolan, while the other three are specific pack mules (Armor Sets, Backup Motifs and Recipes, and Holiday Event Storage, pictured above)

I have problems, okay?


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post Dec 31 2016, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(monkeyemoness @ Dec 31 2016, 04:34 PM) *

I have problems, okay?

Oh Khajiit wouldn't say that! You sound very organized lol


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post Jan 1 2017, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 31 2016, 05:10 PM) *

Has any one here created a character who's sole purpose is to hold onto extra crap when bank space gets low?



Yes, I've got 6 characters and technically 5 of them are bank mules = holding inventory. With their horses fed to capacity and all the backpack upgrades they each hold 200 items.

I took the highest functioning mule (Bubba) out during the Witches Festival and got every skyshard I could; then respec'd him into a crafter, hoping to free up some points on my main Player character. (Misa)

But there are two of them I have slotted for higher things later on = Calia and Mia. Because I plan to use them one day, I have been grooming them to be Player characters = they do Writs, have mastered all the crafting disciplines, and I have brought them out to gather skyshards/given them some combat skills; etc.

One day Misa may have done everything there is to do and I might want to start from the beginning again or play through another Alliance - I'll use one of them then. In the meantime, they are holding all my junk.






QUOTE(monkeyemoness @ Dec 31 2016, 05:34 PM) *

It's particularly painful if you're both an alt-aholic AND a hoarder. I only have one character slot left open, and I had to buy it. One is used up by a replay of Eolan, while the other three are specific pack mules (Armor Sets, Backup Motifs and Recipes, and Holiday Event Storage, pictured above)

I have problems, okay?



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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 31 2016, 05:51 PM) *

Oh Khajiit wouldn't say that! You sound very organized lol


You have to organize your inventory if you use Mules, it is the only way to know where everything is quickly if needed:

My crafter holds all the Runestones not needed for Writs plus the rare style stones.

One mule holds all the Provisioning; another holds the Alchemy ingredients and anything to be sold at the Guild Store.

The two flat-out mules hold armor and weapon sets that I want to hang onto. (those are two characters who will never be played; and would have been deleted if I didn't need the 200 slot inventory space per each).


(the bank holds any mats or cooked provisions needed for writs; plus any items being transferred or shared between characters).







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post Jan 1 2017, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 31 2016, 04:51 PM) *

QUOTE(monkeyemoness @ Dec 31 2016, 04:34 PM) *

I have problems, okay?

Oh Khajiit wouldn't say that! You sound very organized lol

It comes from necessity, you see. Otherwise I wouldn't find anything ever again. :U

On that note, this is what despair looks like.

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I might end up using up my last slot for a temporary mule. That's what I said about the Emergency Skeleton Storage, too. He was only for the Witch's Festival but welp.


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post Jan 1 2017, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(monkeyemoness @ Jan 1 2017, 02:16 AM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Dec 31 2016, 04:51 PM) *

QUOTE(monkeyemoness @ Dec 31 2016, 04:34 PM) *

I have problems, okay?

Oh Khajiit wouldn't say that! You sound very organized lol

It comes from necessity, you see. Otherwise I wouldn't find anything ever again. :U

On that note, this is what despair looks like.

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I might end up using up my last slot for a temporary mule. That's what I said about the Emergency Skeleton Storage, too. He was only for the Witch's Festival but welp.



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Oh, that is bad!





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post Jan 1 2017, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(monkeyemoness @ Jan 1 2017, 01:16 AM) *

It comes from necessity, you see. Otherwise I wouldn't find anything ever again. :U

On that note, this is what despair looks like.

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I might end up using up my last slot for a temporary mule. That's what I said about the Emergency Skeleton Storage, too. He was only for the Witch's Festival but welp.

Yikes ohmy.gif


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post Jan 3 2017, 02:45 AM
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New questions:
Do all of the class specific abilities cost magicka to use? If so, is it stupid to take these abilities if your focus is stamina or health?


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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 2 2017, 08:45 PM) *

New questions:
Do all of the class specific abilities cost magicka to use? If so, is it stupid to take these abilities if your focus is stamina or health?



Each one tells you if it is stamina based or magicka based; it is written in the skill description along with how much of (whichever it is) the spell will cost you.




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QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 2 2017, 09:08 PM) *

Each one tells you if it is stamina based or magicka based; it is written in the skill description along with how much of (whichever it is) the spell will cost you.

Hmmm, well looking at the UESP, the only class abilities that don't use magicka are the "Ultimates".


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post Jan 3 2017, 04:34 AM
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For a small number of the abilities, one of the morphs converts the ability to a stamina ability.

For a select number of other abilities, the effect of being fueled by magicika is not that important. For example, if an ability teleports you forward 30m, then it doesn't make any diff in effectiveness whether you have a small or big magicka pool except that it will just cost a larger chunk of your blue bar to cast.

You are right though to carefully consider. Stam characters have loads of options with weapon abilities (less staves) but magicka characters have more freedom with class abilities.


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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 2 2017, 10:23 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 2 2017, 09:08 PM) *

Each one tells you if it is stamina based or magicka based; it is written in the skill description along with how much of (whichever it is) the spell will cost you.

Hmmm, well looking at the UESP, the only class abilities that don't use magicka are the "Ultimates".


What class is it? And also; with some abilities you can choose a stamina upgrade when/if you morph them.





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post Jan 3 2017, 05:49 AM
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QUOTE(Acadian @ Jan 2 2017, 09:34 PM) *

For a small number of the abilities, one of the morphs converts the ability to a stamina ability.

For a select number of other abilities, the effect of being fueled by magicika is not that important. For example, if an ability teleports you forward 30m, then it doesn't make any diff in effectiveness whether you have a small or big magicka pool except that it will just cost a larger chunk of your blue bar to cast.

You are right though to carefully consider. Stam characters have loads of options with weapon abilities (less staves) but magicka characters have more freedom with class abilities.

Ok so for instance:
The Redguard character this one made was supposed to be a throw-away "hold all my extra stuff" character. She is a Redguard Dragonknight that dual wields swords and also makes use of Ardent Flame magical attacks. Well, after going through Coldharbour with her, this one feels like this character is better than just a throw-away and has pretty good potential. We already put the few attribute points we earned for her into stamina, not Magicka, but you think she doesn't necessarily need any attributes put into magicka?

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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 2 2017, 10:23 PM) *

QUOTE(mALX @ Jan 2 2017, 09:08 PM) *

Each one tells you if it is stamina based or magicka based; it is written in the skill description along with how much of (whichever it is) the spell will cost you.

Hmmm, well looking at the UESP, the only class abilities that don't use magicka are the "Ultimates".


What class is it? And also; with some abilities you can choose a stamina upgrade when/if you morph them.
Khajiit was just looking at all of the class specific abilities. Didn't notice which ones had the Stam morph.


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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 3 2017, 02:45 AM) *

New questions:
Do all of the class specific abilities cost magicka to use? If so, is it stupid to take these abilities if your focus is stamina or health?

Most class abilities do use magicka (some can be morphed into stam abilities), which is designed to balance them out against powerful weapon skills (bows and melee weapons all use stam).

If you focus on stam and health, you'll find that you'll be running out of magicka a lot at higher levels if you have lots of class abilities slotted. Then again, focusing on magicka will make your class abilities stronger but your non-staff weapons will be weaker. It's up to you how you play, but I'd recommend just experimenting until you're happy.

Haa-Rei, for example, is a stamina-based sorcerer (all attributes in stamina). He uses bow skills (stam) in combat and uses armour skills (stam) and stamina morphs of some spells as buffs. He does use a couple of magicka skills, but they're not combat skills so I don't cast them often, and he could survive without them if his magicka ran out.


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