Yeah it gave us no trouble today at all.

Feng is my crew's larceny specialist. Mira and Brenna are not above thieving, they simply aren't very good at it. Now we need to find an assassination specialist. Feng is fine killing in the name of the Dominion, and stealing, but draws the line at murdering innocents. The others aren't suited for assassination either.

Can confirm. Teach the shits some traits and you start getting better ones, too. 'Course, if you don't farm regularly you might end up eating through materials pretty quickly, especially with characters that aren't at max character level and get crap materials half the time. Not to mention the awful inventory management hell if you don't have the Craft Bag. No this isn't from experience, what are you talking about?

Too bad the price Glass Motif Fragments was absolutely destroyed. Used to make some decent gold from them. Now I got nearly 2 full stacks of them in the bank.

Before the price was increased, my plan was to use vouchers for the Hlaalu Furnisher's documents, but welp. Maybe they'll add new things worth buying come Horns of the Reach.

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It's really hard not to dip your hands into strange cookie jars, tbh. I've had the habit since the SP TES games, and in this game it's much more rewarding so it's good to have a dedicated thief. Hates usually takes care of that, but Jo'zira sometimes uses his inherited Khajiit powers to find shinies as well, but only for fun, not as a profession. Don't ask Eolan to steal. Ever. Don't mention where you got your goods, either. (He knows, and he'll hold a grudge, but he won't react if it's not mentioned. Not like he can do anything about it, though.)

On that note, early in his life he ran into a purple-level treasure in an owned container. You can't imagine how painful it was as a broke new player to give that up. Luckily, it was a time when they were only worth around 750 gold. Ew. (I think it was the hilt of the Blade of Woe? Or some sort of Daedric hilt)

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It sounds like Cincinnatus wanders really far. I love those little bursts of inspiration that the characters get sometimes. Too bad in Eastmarch you happen to see the opposite and are given the Idiot Ball for an important quest, especially ridiculous after doing Shadowfen.

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Anyways, my furnishing materials are piling up so I made some furnishings for a friend's house. Maybe too many but idk. That aside Fjotreid's in the mid 30's now thanks to dailies and farming for Dwemer Pet Pieces. Someone had the gall to tell him to "Put a shirt on, Fabio" while he was waiting for armor. Look, he's not about to hike aaaaaall the way to his inn room to change. Screw social norms. (Easier to say that in Black Marsh than Vvardenfell, I suppose...)

So given the conversation for the past few posts, you folks are saying that it's beneficial for all of one's characters to be able to craft? Does Khajiit have this right?

Let me offer my 2 $eptims worth on crafting. Buffy the magplar is a master of the three ‘consumable’ crafts. Buffy the magsorc has mastered the three ‘durable goods’ crafts. They both have a point in seeing clothing and alchemical plants. They both have points in deconstructing the durables (to get more purple/gold tempers). They both have points in the passive that makes food last longer. They both have all skills at a skill level of 50.

I think going beyond that, it boils down to writs. And I don’t care for them. I tried them early on so I would know how they work but found them too much like domestic chores and didn’t enjoy them. I guess they can bring in some money but I find the game just about throws money at you anyway – more than Buffy needs anyway.

One thing I’ll point out is that some of the furniture crafting recipes call for skill in more than one craft (like food and metal for example). If I cared much (which I don’t) about furniture crafting, I would tend to put a few more points into cross training the crafts for one character.

I guess my advice would be to do writs for a time and see if they appeal to you. Clearly, many people enjoy them but I do not.

Mira is Khajiit's crew's blacksmith, woodworker, leatherworker, and clothier (mainly because she knew the Imperial motif automatically). Brenna is their provisioner, alchemist, and enchanter (or she will be; she only has skill points in enchant as of right now).

IF you want heaps of Master Writs; Psijiic Ambrosia recipe fragments; Glass Fragments; and rare provisioning mats. Otherwise, you don't need to. I had just Misa and Bubba doing it since Housing released; and was getting a couple low level Master Writs about 2-4 times per week. On rare occasions I got a high level Master Writ. Adding Calia I got 12 Master Writs in two days only two of them were for just 2 vouchers; the rest were between 5-49.

So it is all in what you want to do, like Acadian said. He doesn't like doing Writs - I don't mind them at all, and want the stuff I can get with Master Writs. (that is how I got the crafting stations for the Guild Hall !!! )




This post has been edited by mALX: Jun 22 2017, 05:17 AM

Not going to lie, Khajiit found that he was spending more time gathering mats for writs than actually playing the game for a while there, which kind of wore on him after a bit. This one supposes that he feels similar to Acadian about it, so at least for now we will just have Mira y Brenna be our craftspeople.

And again, thank you for letting us use your facilities that you have worked so hard to obtain, mALX. You're awesome!

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Jun 22 2017, 06:20 AM

Oh yeah, if you are having to farm mats to do it = that makes a big difference. I used to have to farm, which is why for so long it was just Misa doing all the Writs. I actually built Bubba up to crafter just to replace Misa, but in the end just decided to use both. (ended up really liking doing the high level Writs because they take much less time and much less mats. So decided to keep both of them doing it).

About the Guild Hall - it has never been my house. I planned to buy it for no other reason than for us to have a Guild Hall where we could meet and hang out. The whole excitement about getting that place was that we could all use it; so it had to have amenities for us to use (crafting stations, target dummy, and eventually a banker and merchant = and hopefully later on some Mundus stones !!!! )




This post has been edited by mALX: Jun 22 2017, 03:03 PM

Speaking of writs (in general): since I am still a scrub here, especially at crafting, I have a question. Would it really be worth my while to sink my teeth into doing some writs? I have one for black-smithing that I haven't cared much to do yet. I take it such writs would accelerate my leveling in crafting skills or no?



Lol, yeah, he does like to travel and go sight-seeing. To be honest, it didn't occur to me just how crazy long the journeys he is taking across the provinces are. But that's just how he is, I guess.

Well writs are like quests so the xp you get for turning them in goes towards your overall level. Also, you often get items with the "Intricate" trait that gives you large boosts to progression in the crafting skill that the item is made from. The problem with writs that Mira ran into was that she would often run out of mats to do writs (because they require a good number of resources), so she would then have to spend an hour farming nodes to get enough mats to fulfill the writ order. So in conclusion, in Khajiit's experience writs are good for extra xp and for building your skill in a given craft skill, but can be a headache sometimes too.

What the holy hell is up with "The Covetous Countess" TG tip board quest? Khajiit read that you can get many different categories of stuff that the Countess wants but so far she's only given Feng one type out of like 6 times doing it: Ritual items and oddities. Also, sometimes it will tell us that we have stolen the amount of goods we need but when we go to launder said goods, it sets the count back to zero. Wtf?

Oh, and Feng received his first Abah's Watch page (Shoulders), which he promptly put in the bank, and Mira promptly withdrew. She then discovered a practical problem with this style: polished shillings are a pain in the ass to acquire. Still, good looking stuff!

This one knows, right?

But please, excuse Khajiit's earlier harsh language.

For the Crafting Writ discussion, I will say that the lowest level is an okay source of gold if you're in desperate need. Since it's the lowest, you always get back a guaranteed 25 (or so) units of the material you used for Equipment writs. At max character level it's around 3250 gold a day for all six professions. You might need to do some occasional farming, though, so ymmv.

But yeah, it's only really worth it if you like crafting and have a dedicated crafter. With the recent changes, it's probably best to have multiple ones, too, since you only get the max tier of material half of the time otherwise. (But again, ymmv) There was even a point where you could make much more money by selling the materials instead :V (The chance to get ambrosia/glass fragments and gold tempers aside)

I do them cause I like crafting. I like gathering materials. Also it's my main source of cash aside from motifs since I don't run dungeons and such anymore cause I suck at the game. or rather I'm too lazy to l2p again

But hey! Welcome to motif gathering, Khajiit. (I actually bought like 20 Polished Shillings when I got the style, tbh)

This post has been edited by monkeyemoness: Jun 23 2017, 01:28 AM

Mira found 90something of them for 9something00 gold. Was tempted to get them but in the end it just seemed unwise given that we only have the shoulders part of the motif.

Thanks for the tips, my marsh-friends. I'm not hurting for money, but I'll probably do a few writs for the experience and a little extra gold. I would like to buy one of the nicer houses soon, for one. But I have to go find some iron ore deposits, which--since I leveled up my blacksmithing enough to where I am starting to see high iron and orichalcum deposits much more--have been hard to come across for some reason.

Ooh if you are seeing both of those then Khajiit is afraid you won't see iron again unless you use a new character to farm for you. That said, you won't need iron ore if you leveled up blacksmithing; the writs automatically adjust themselves to work with whatever material you are currently on (steel for high iron in this case. You are seeing Orichalcum because that is what your level dictates you should be finding, though you won't be able to work with it until you upgrade blacksmithing again). Khajiit will send you some iron just in case you have an open writ that requires iron to complete.

Rader, I sent you some iron. Let me know if you need more, I have plenty. Still have some low-level characters wandering around.

hazmick, what do you think of the Defiler set? Elke is wearing it with Hundings. The first time I saw the hunger do its thing I wanted to barf. Lol. But for now she’s enjoying it. Pfft. Nords. I have some extra pieces if you need them, but sadly no belt or bow.

monkey, I love the drawing of Fjotreid and Eolan! I think it would be great to have a thread of your work in the Art Forum so that you could include your Skyrim art, hint hint. I have gone back through threads here and at Haven hunting for drawings that I’d like to see again. You could post new drawings in context in their relevant game threads and also in your art thread so that we wouldn’t miss any and would still be able to find them again easily. Just a suggestion.

Buffy is at the cap as far as finding crafting nodes. What she finds is that most nodes are for the top level materials but she will often find nodes for the very bottom as well. For metal, for example, she finds rubidite and iron nodes. That is consistent with my understanding that you should always find a number of the bottom level nodes.