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ghastley |
Jun 19 2018, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 19 2018, 04:36 PM)  Right now she is trying to get those new research traits done, lol.
And as always, there's nothing you can do to speed that up, except buying research scrolls for crowns.
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mALX |
Jun 19 2018, 09:54 PM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN

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QUOTE(ghastley @ Jun 19 2018, 04:44 PM)  QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 19 2018, 04:36 PM)  Right now she is trying to get those new research traits done, lol.
And as always, there's nothing you can do to speed that up, except buying research scrolls for crowns. Yeah, I won't do that, lol. I can't say I didn't hope to get one in my crates this morning, but no such luck;  I think (or hope) they are researching faster than the regular armor and weapons did though.
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mALX |
Jun 20 2018, 02:12 PM
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Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN

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QUOTE(Kane @ Jun 20 2018, 08:59 AM)  How grindy is it t get a crafting skill that high?
I remember the early days of RF Online, where it was insanely grindy to get your character to level 50. Grouping the best mobs you could find earned something like .01
The more equipment items you deconstruct, the quicker your crafting skill lines raise. For Provisioning and Alchemy: They raise by creating meals or potions = Alchemy - get the highest level water or poison your character can use and make potion after potion or poison after poison; but your skill only raises if it is a valid potion or poison. Provisioning - find a recipe at the highest level you can craft (I think it will be 1-10 when you first start out, so do a level 10 recipe) = craft it over and over again. Get certified in any crafting you want to raise the skill level on, and do Writs daily; they bring your levels up faster too. ** By the way, we are having a lot of trouble reaching you in game to send you the furniture = it isn't showing you at all on the server. Are you by chance playing on the European server? We are all on the North American server; and can't interact with anyone on another server; that is the only cause I can think of for why you aren't showing up on the game yet. .
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Kane |
Jun 20 2018, 02:14 PM
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Master

Joined: 26-September 16
From: Hammerfell

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QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 20 2018, 09:12 AM)  QUOTE(Kane @ Jun 20 2018, 08:59 AM)  How grindy is it t get a crafting skill that high?
I remember the early days of RF Online, where it was insanely grindy to get your character to level 50. Grouping the best mobs you could find earned something like .01
The more equipment items you deconstruct, the quicker your crafting skill lines raise. For Provisioning and Alchemy: They raise by creating meals or potions = Alchemy - get the highest level water or poison your character can use and make potion after potion or poison after poison; but your skill only raises if it is a valid potion or poison. Provisioning - find a recipe at the highest level you can craft (I think it will be 1-10 when you first start out, so do a level 10 recipe) = craft it over and over again. Get certified in any crafting you want to raise the skill level on, and do Writs daily; they bring your levels up faster too. ** By the way, we are having a lot of trouble reaching you in game to send you the furniture = it isn't showing you at all on the server. Are you by chance playing on the European server? We are all on the North American server; and can't interact with anyone on another server; that is the only cause I can think of for why you aren't showing up on the game yet. . Nope, I'm on the NA server from good 'ol Pennsylvania. I wasn't able to play yesterday, though (took pops to see Star Wars as a late father's day gift [after work]), so I likely won't be on until this evening.
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Wrapped in furs beneath the northern lights From my cave I watch the land untamed And wonder if some becoming season Will make the angel melt in shame
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Kane |
Jun 20 2018, 02:17 PM
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Master

Joined: 26-September 16
From: Hammerfell

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QUOTE(Acadian @ Jun 20 2018, 09:15 AM)  Yes, Kane, like mALX said. I've sent you an in game PM, friend request and guild invite but no indication that you've received them yet. I will make it a point to log in tonight.  Life just gets busy sometimes, and sadly cuts into my game time.
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Wrapped in furs beneath the northern lights From my cave I watch the land untamed And wonder if some becoming season Will make the angel melt in shame
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ghastley |
Jun 20 2018, 02:40 PM
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Joined: 13-December 10

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QUOTE(Kane @ Jun 20 2018, 08:59 AM)  How grindy is it t get a crafting skill that high?
I remember the early days of RF Online, where it was insanely grindy to get your character to level 50. Grouping the best mobs you could find earned something like .0125% per kill.
With the crafting skills, it's not so much the grind to level the skill, so much as the wait for research. You need to learn the traits (infused, sharpened, etc.) for two reasons. One is to apply them to things you make, and the other is eligibility to make crafted equipment sets, where you can't attempt the crafting unless you know a number of traits for each item. The first trait you learn takes several hours, and the times get longer for each subsequent one, up to a month for the ninth. You can only learn one at a time, to start with, in each craft. However, with skill points invested, you can later manage two or three at once, and get a (small) reduction in research times. You'll reach 50 and probably Rank 10 in each craft, and still know only five or six traits on each item, just because that's the part you can't speed up. After six months of playing my crafter knows the full nine on only one item - shields. Nine traits on everything takes about a year of logging in at exactly the time the research completes, so you can start another, or in reality, longer. Alchemy, provisioning, and enchanting are all different. In Alchemy, if you have enough supplies, you can learn all the effects in less than an hour, and then make enough poisons to raise your level quickly. The limiting factor will likely be skill points (go find skyshards for those). Provisioning again needs enough ingredients to make all the recipes, but you can buy the ones needed for the writs, and pay for them by doing the writs. Then keep making the best stuff until you level up and can do better. Food/drink is quick and doesn't fight back. Enchanting is again a question of gathering enough runes to learn from, and using each one at least once. They're levelled, so you grow into them, but any character can gather any rune at random (except for one that you don't need for max level). Collecting/buying all the motifs to satisfy master writs then piles on top, with ZOS adding more just when you're close to completion. tl;dr Crafting is infinitely grindy! Leaves insanely in the dust. But combat levelling is much faster. You can theoretically hit level 50 in a few hours, because others can help you with the kills. As long as you do enough, you get credit. This post has been edited by ghastley: Jun 20 2018, 02:49 PM
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mALX |
Jun 20 2018, 02:58 PM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN

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QUOTE(Kane @ Jun 20 2018, 09:14 AM)  QUOTE(mALX @ Jun 20 2018, 09:12 AM)  QUOTE(Kane @ Jun 20 2018, 08:59 AM)  How grindy is it t get a crafting skill that high?
I remember the early days of RF Online, where it was insanely grindy to get your character to level 50. Grouping the best mobs you could find earned something like .01
The more equipment items you deconstruct, the quicker your crafting skill lines raise. For Provisioning and Alchemy: They raise by creating meals or potions = Alchemy - get the highest level water or poison your character can use and make potion after potion or poison after poison; but your skill only raises if it is a valid potion or poison. Provisioning - find a recipe at the highest level you can craft (I think it will be 1-10 when you first start out, so do a level 10 recipe) = craft it over and over again. Get certified in any crafting you want to raise the skill level on, and do Writs daily; they bring your levels up faster too. ** By the way, we are having a lot of trouble reaching you in game to send you the furniture = it isn't showing you at all on the server. Are you by chance playing on the European server? We are all on the North American server; and can't interact with anyone on another server; that is the only cause I can think of for why you aren't showing up on the game yet. . Nope, I'm on the NA server from good 'ol Pennsylvania. I wasn't able to play yesterday, though (took pops to see Star Wars as a late father's day gift [after work]), so I likely won't be on until this evening. You actually don't need to be online to receive mail or invites, they go to your "Notifications" tab. It might just take a while to have your account show up online, so far it isn't showing any account for you when I type in your name.
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mALX |
Jun 20 2018, 03:21 PM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN

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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 20 2018, 10:04 AM)  @Kane Don’t think we are trying to pressure you to join or anything. We are there when you are ready.
Right, agreed. Joining the Guild makes it easy to get anything you need because we just stick anything we don't want into the Guild Bank and all the members just take what they want out of there. But don't feel pressured to join. It is there for any members of this Chorrol site if they want to join it, but no one has to join it. We kind of liked the idea of it just being friends, and people that understood us and knew us from here pretty much knew both us and our characters before ESO even came out; so we feel comfortable with each other. But no one is pressured to join, I will automatically add you as a welcome visitor at the Guild Hall as an honorary member regardless because you are friends here and at Haven (but you won't be able to use the Guild Bank. without being a member).
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Kane |
Jun 20 2018, 04:08 PM
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Master

Joined: 26-September 16
From: Hammerfell

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Oh, don't worry, I would love to join you folks!  I've been in guilds and clans in other games, so that isn't even a thing. I should definitely be receiving, though...I am already friends in-game with Lapuaboy from Haven, and he didn't have any issues looking me up.
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Wrapped in furs beneath the northern lights From my cave I watch the land untamed And wonder if some becoming season Will make the angel melt in shame
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mALX |
Jun 20 2018, 04:19 PM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN

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QUOTE(Kane @ Jun 20 2018, 11:08 AM)  Oh, don't worry, I would love to join you folks!  I've been in guilds and clans in other games, so that isn't even a thing. I should definitely be receiving, though...I am already friends in-game with Lapuaboy from Haven, and he didn't have any issues looking me up. I'll try again when I get on later,
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ghastley |
Jun 20 2018, 04:21 PM
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Joined: 13-December 10

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You'll find quite a few things in ESO that just can't be done solo. Like researching the Nirnhoned trait, where there are 40-odd items to learn it for, but the game only lets you have one piece per character to learn from, and you can't have that many characters. Your only option is to trade pieces with other players.
Some dungeons require a group, and they're much easier with folk you know. Those are all optional, but sometimes you want the unique loot they offer.
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mALX |
Jun 20 2018, 06:32 PM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
From: Cyrodiil, the Wastelands, and BFE TN

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QUOTE(monkeyemoness @ Jun 19 2018, 05:54 PM)  I legit just had to walk to the Augury Basin and read the Jewelry Crafting skill book there to max it out. lol
But yeah, it'll definitely go faster than the others, considering there are only 18 traits to research as opposed to 126 of Blacksmithing or Clothier (Woodworking has only 54 and that always went by a lot faster)
I think the actual time it takes to research each is faster too though. I've got a lot of the rings and just had to wait 4 days between. Someone said 30 days wait for the last one, and that is actually a short time compared to how long the last Armor/Weapon ones took. Congrats on reaching 50 in Jewelry crafting though! (I also used that book, I found it when I was picking up the Summerset Isles crafting stations, lol).
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ghastley |
Jun 20 2018, 07:18 PM
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Joined: 13-December 10

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30 days is the cap for any research, if you have the right passive for that skill. ESO+ reduces it a further 10%, I think, it's not clear which order those apply. So the 8th trait and the 9th are almost the same duration, because the 8th is just under the cap with ESO+, and the 9th is capped.
If you were researching with characters that didn't have the cap passive, the 9th would be 64 days!
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