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post May 19 2019, 03:59 PM
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Oooh, Khajiit has a fancy thumb button mouse ohmy.gif


Also, there's another way to do that garage quest that yield more XP... wink.gif


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post May 19 2019, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 19 2019, 07:06 AM) *

Khajiit was sure Dominate can be used in certain instances in conversation. It’s been a while since this one played as a Tremere though. Blocking is done by pressing the secondary attack button while in melee, if memory serves correctly. Khajiit has that mapped to one of the “thumb buttons” on the left side of his mouse.

I read that with the unofficial patch (which my Gog version of the game came with built in) Tremere are supposed to get the equivalent of 1 point of Dominate in conversations. But I have never seen the option yet.

I found the Clandoc000 file, with all the particulars of each clan, and found a BlueBlood line. Normally only Ventrue get it set to 1, everyone else has it at 0. So I set that to 1 for Tremere as well. But so far that has not changed anything. It is probably for something else. Maybe those Blue Blood blood packs? My guess is that the game simply checked to see if you are Ventrue, not if you are Blue Blood.


QUOTE(mirocu @ May 19 2019, 10:59 AM) *

Also, there's another way to do that garage quest that yield more XP... wink.gif

I found some air vents through the garage that would help trying to sneak past the guards. But I just killed them all anyway. I am an old school RPG'er. I would rather kill them all... laugh.gif


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post May 19 2019, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 19 2019, 10:49 AM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 19 2019, 07:06 AM) *

Khajiit was sure Dominate can be used in certain instances in conversation. It’s been a while since this one played as a Tremere though. Blocking is done by pressing the secondary attack button while in melee, if memory serves correctly. Khajiit has that mapped to one of the “thumb buttons” on the left side of his mouse.

I read that with the unofficial patch (which my Gog version of the game came with built in) Tremere are supposed to get the equivalent of 1 point of Dominate in conversations. But I have never seen the option yet.

I found the Clandoc000 file, with all the particulars of each clan, and found a BlueBlood line. Normally only Ventrue get it set to 1, everyone else has it at 0. So I set that to 1 for Tremere as well. But so far that has not changed anything. It is probably for something else. Maybe those Blue Blood blood packs? My guess is that the game simply checked to see if you are Ventrue, not if you are Blue Blood.


QUOTE(mirocu @ May 19 2019, 10:59 AM) *

Also, there's another way to do that garage quest that yield more XP... wink.gif

I found some air vents through the garage that would help trying to sneak past the guards. But I just killed them all anyway. I am an old school RPG'er. I would rather kill them all... laugh.gif

Ooo that blue blood setting might refer to the Ventrue not being able to feed off bums and rats. Just a guess.


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post May 19 2019, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 19 2019, 05:49 PM) *

I found some air vents through the garage that would help trying to sneak past the guards. But I just killed them all anyway. I am an old school RPG'er. I would rather kill them all... laugh.gif

Sure. I come from the school of Deus Ex the Original™ though so sneaking is my cup of green tea. But I actually didn't find out about that until I read it somewhere.. wink.gif


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post May 19 2019, 05:46 PM
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Khajiit is drawing a blank on “the parking garage”... unsure.gif


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post May 19 2019, 05:49 PM
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Khajit seems to do that on quite a few things it seems... biggrin.gif


Maybe he never got that quest from Larry?


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post May 19 2019, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 19 2019, 12:32 PM) *

Ooo that blue blood setting might refer to the Ventrue not being able to feed off bums and rats. Just a guess.

That could be. Maybe I better change it back then! Because as gross as it sounds, sometimes rats are just what the waiter ordered...


QUOTE(mirocu @ May 19 2019, 12:42 PM) *

Sure. I come from the school of Deus Ex the Original™ though so sneaking is my cup of green tea. But I actually didn't find out about that until I read it somewhere.. wink.gif

I looked it up in one of the faqs, and now I see what you mean. If you sneak in and steal the briefcase you get an extra 2 XP. And then you can still kill everyone afterward! laugh.gif

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 19 2019, 12:46 PM) *

Khajiit is drawing a blank on “the parking garage”... unsure.gif

It is one of the side quests Downtown. When you talk to Fat Larry (the vendor who stands behind a van), he gives you a quest to go to a parking garage where some kind of buy is going down between two gangs. He wants you to get the briefcase of stuff being sold.


The game would not let me kill Vandal, but I gave it a good try anyhow

Sneaking past the Sabbat goons

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Ewww, why is he doing that?

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post May 19 2019, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 19 2019, 07:38 PM) *

It is one of the side quests Downtown. When you talk to Fat Larry (the vendor who stands behind a van), he gives you a quest to go to a parking garage where some kind of buy is going down between two gangs. He wants you to get the briefcase of stuff being sold.

You need to buy guns from him first though. He explains why biggrin.gif


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post May 19 2019, 08:28 PM
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So are any of you guys using the Unofficial Patch? I found out that the Gog version of the game comes with the basic version of the Unofficial Patch. But apparently there is a more fleshed out version of the UP, that adds more stuff. I was wondering if it was worth getting?


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post May 19 2019, 08:33 PM
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I don't think I ever did that. All I remember is running the Camarilla Edition and a companion mod. Don't recommend mods though as this game is not made to run them like Bethesda's.


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post May 19 2019, 09:55 PM
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I just read up a little on the Camarilla Edition. Wow, it sounds a lot harder. You lose a blood point every 3 minutes of gameplay? You must be killing everyone in the game and draining them! ohmy.gif

I have a lot of mods that I added already. All of them are basically just for looks however. I found the one Khajiit is using for the Malkavian starting outfit. I found another that changes the starting Brujah outfit to Selene's from the Underworld movies. *rawr*. Plus one that gives Lacroix a pinstripe suit. There are a couple that tweak the Gangrel and Tremere bodies and outfits. They don't really change them, just fix issues with texture seams and the like.

I think I am going to try the full version of the Unofficial Patch, to see what it adds.

I added it, and had to start a new game. Oh well, I was thinking of doing that anyway, given what I now know.

One thing I like about the Unofficial Patch (even the basic version of Gog) is that it adds Histories you can choose from at character creation. They are similar to Traits in the old Fallout games. They do things like change the cost order of Traits, Skills, etc... Some give bonuses to certain things, at the cost of penalties to others, and so on. The Full Unofficial Patch seems to add a few more than the basic version had.


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post May 19 2019, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 19 2019, 05:32 PM) *

QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 19 2019, 10:49 AM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 19 2019, 07:06 AM) *

Khajiit was sure Dominate can be used in certain instances in conversation. It’s been a while since this one played as a Tremere though. Blocking is done by pressing the secondary attack button while in melee, if memory serves correctly. Khajiit has that mapped to one of the “thumb buttons” on the left side of his mouse.

I read that with the unofficial patch (which my Gog version of the game came with built in) Tremere are supposed to get the equivalent of 1 point of Dominate in conversations. But I have never seen the option yet.

I found the Clandoc000 file, with all the particulars of each clan, and found a BlueBlood line. Normally only Ventrue get it set to 1, everyone else has it at 0. So I set that to 1 for Tremere as well. But so far that has not changed anything. It is probably for something else. Maybe those Blue Blood blood packs? My guess is that the game simply checked to see if you are Ventrue, not if you are Blue Blood.


QUOTE(mirocu @ May 19 2019, 10:59 AM) *

Also, there's another way to do that garage quest that yield more XP... wink.gif

I found some air vents through the garage that would help trying to sneak past the guards. But I just killed them all anyway. I am an old school RPG'er. I would rather kill them all... laugh.gif

Ooo that blue blood setting might refer to the Ventrue not being able to feed off bums and rats. Just a guess.


I think it is. My Ventrue has some in his inventory and it works wonders. He tried feeding on bums in the streets and vomited blood.


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post May 19 2019, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ May 19 2019, 05:11 PM) *

He tried feeding on bums in the streets and vomited blood.

Which is what I would do, and I am not even a vampire! biggrin.gif


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post May 19 2019, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 19 2019, 10:41 PM) *

QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ May 19 2019, 05:11 PM) *

He tried feeding on bums in the streets and vomited blood.

Which is what I would do, and I am not even a vampire! biggrin.gif

Haha, same!

You’d have to be desperate... or a Malkavian.


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post May 20 2019, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ May 19 2019, 05:09 PM) *

... or a Malkavian.

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Brigitte has actually fed on more rats than bums, thank you very much.


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post May 20 2019, 01:29 AM
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I have played with the full version of the Unofficial Patch for a while now. I can definitely see some differences. For starters, my Dominate options are showing up in dialogue now, even though I am a Tremere. That is really nice. It makes some quests a lot easier. Like making Vandal chill out after freeing Lily.

I also have noticed that some items have gotten moved around. There are a couple skill books normally for sale at the pawn shop that have been moved to other places along the main quest. So you can get them for free. Not that buying them is a big problem. I also could not find the Weepanaug Whistle, or whatever it is actually called, in the haunted house quest. So I just used the console to get it.

Besides that I have noticed new textures in places like the tattoo parlor. New music. I think even the weather was changed to add rain. Though I could be wrong, and maybe it rained before.

So far, I am liking the full version of the UP.


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post May 20 2019, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 19 2019, 07:29 PM) *

I have played with the full version of the Unofficial Patch for a while now. I can definitely see some differences. For starters, my Dominate options are showing up in dialogue now, even though I am a Tremere. That is really nice. It makes some quests a lot easier. Like making Vandal chill out after freeing Lily.

I also have noticed that some items have gotten moved around. There are a couple skill books normally for sale at the pawn shop that have been moved to other places along the main quest. So you can get them for free. Not that buying them is a big problem. I also could not find the Weepanaug Whistle, or whatever it is actually called, in the haunted house quest. So I just used the console to get it.

Besides that I have noticed new textures in places like the tattoo parlor. New music. I think even the weather was changed to add rain. Though I could be wrong, and maybe it rained before.

So far, I am liking the full version of the UP.

Good! Khajiit is glad you are getting into the game!


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post May 20 2019, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 19 2019, 10:55 PM) *

I just read up a little on the Camarilla Edition. Wow, it sounds a lot harder. You lose a blood point every 3 minutes of gameplay? You must be killing everyone in the game and draining them! ohmy.gif

I actually nullified that tongue.gif

QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 20 2019, 02:29 AM) *

I have played with the full version of the Unofficial Patch for a while now. I can definitely see some differences. For starters, my Dominate options are showing up in dialogue now, even though I am a Tremere. That is really nice. It makes some quests a lot easier. Like making Vandal chill out after freeing Lily.

If you're a Malk there's literally a funnier way to do that biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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post May 20 2019, 08:44 PM
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Now that I have the blocking figured out (it is the secondary attack button), I am doing much better. I took out the Asian vampire with no sweat this time around, where before I had to reload a bunch of times after being killed.


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post May 20 2019, 08:51 PM
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I see someone went to Foxy Boxing!


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