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TheCheshireKhajiit
post May 20 2019, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ May 20 2019, 02:51 PM) *

I see someone went to Foxy Boxing!

*Ahem* Khajiit thinks you mean Foxy Boxes!


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post May 21 2019, 01:24 AM
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I just found out that there is a Bloodheal power everyone is supposed to get. I never did. I tried adding it with the console, but while it shows up in the list you cycle through with the mouse wheel, it still does not work.

So I did a reinstall, and tried it again with my old saves (I backed them up). Still no dice. But for drips and giggles I started a new character just to test, and she got it automatically, and it worked.

So if I want Bloodheal, I have to start the game all over, again. *grrr*


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post May 21 2019, 02:41 AM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 20 2019, 07:24 PM) *

I just found out that there is a Bloodheal power everyone is supposed to get. I never did. I tried adding it with the console, but while it shows up in the list you cycle through with the mouse wheel, it still does not work.

So I did a reinstall, and tried it again with my old saves (I backed them up). Still no dice. But for drips and giggles I started a new character just to test, and she got it automatically, and it worked.

So if I want Bloodheal, I have to start the game all over, again. *grrr*

Hmm, Khajiit has never heard of Bloodheal.


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post May 21 2019, 05:20 PM
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It's worth it, SubRosa. Fight, heal, feed and keep fighting. Works wonders biggrin.gif


@Khajiit - It comes with the Camarilla Edition and is a power that uses blood to heal damage.


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post May 21 2019, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ May 21 2019, 11:20 AM) *

@Khajiit - It comes with the Camarilla Edition and is a power that uses blood to heal damage.

Ah, Khajiit doesn’t run Camarilla Edition so that’s why he hasn’t heard of it! This one inferred it’s use by its name wink.gif


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post May 22 2019, 12:47 AM
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The Unofficial Patch Plus version has it too, which is what I am using.

It turns out that Is_Blueblood 1 line in the Clandoc file was indeed about the Ventrue getting sick on rats and bums. Yesterday I tried feeding from a bum, and threw up! I had already changed it back, but I was still working off a save from when it was on. So just as well I restarted.

OTOH, that means you can set it to 0 for Ventrue, and they can feed off anything.


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post May 22 2019, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 21 2019, 06:47 PM) *

The Unofficial Patch Plus version has it too, which is what I am using.

It turns out that Is_Blueblood 1 line in the Clandoc file was indeed about the Ventrue getting sick on rats and bums. Yesterday I tried feeding from a bum, and threw up! I had already changed it back, but I was still working off a save from when it was on. So just as well I restarted.

OTOH, that means you can set it to 0 for Ventrue, and they can feed off anything.

Good to know! That said, Khajiit played a Ventrue on his first play through because they reminded him of Imperials from TES3, and doesn’t remember it being a serious problem not being able to feed on bums and rats.


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post May 22 2019, 02:56 PM
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Supposedly a trailer was released for Ventrue in Bloodlines 2, but was taken down.


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post May 22 2019, 03:15 PM
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It’s back up! Ventrue baby! My boys are back!

New info:

•Ventrue Disciplines: Dominate and Fortitude.
•No Ventrue powers break the masquerade.
•Curse: Refined taste for blood, resonance/taste system for blood.
•The character models we see for the clans are NPCs. You can follow their "style" to a certain extent but the character images that we've seen like this are real people.
•Game on steam, GOG, epic, paradox store etc..
•Weapons do break, for guns they are trying to design the gameplay to be "improvisational" and are still working to balance it and don't want to talk about it too much right now as they are still working on it.
•Healing through blood is an intrinsic ablity that can be done with a button press. There are ways of making this healing more effective.
•Bloodbuff/ blood rouse "in many ways is always on".
•There will facial customiazation and they want to stick "library of options" instead of sliders. They will show us more later.


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post May 22 2019, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ May 22 2019, 09:15 AM) *

It’s back up! Ventrue baby! My boys are back!

New info:

•Ventrue Disciplines: Dominate and Fortitude.
•No Ventrue powers break the masquerade.
•Curse: Refined taste for blood, resonance/taste system for blood.
•The character models we see for the clans are NPCs. You can follow their "style" to a certain extent but the character images that we've seen like this are real people.
•Game on steam, GOG, epic, paradox store etc..
•Weapons do break, for guns they are trying to design the gameplay to be "improvisational" and are still working to balance it and don't want to talk about it too much right now as they are still working on it.
•Healing through blood is an intrinsic ablity that can be done with a button press. There are ways of making this healing more effective.
•Bloodbuff/ blood rouse "in many ways is always on".
•There will facial customiazation and they want to stick "library of options" instead of sliders. They will show us more later.

Khajiit is super excited!!!


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post May 22 2019, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 22 2019, 05:01 PM) *

Khajiit is super excited!!!

I'm certainly not but I'll not rain on Khajiit's parade too much tongue.gif


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post May 22 2019, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ May 22 2019, 07:08 PM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 22 2019, 05:01 PM) *

Khajiit is super excited!!!

I'm certainly not but I'll not rain on Khajiit's parade too much tongue.gif

Why aren’t you excited? Am I missing something here lol?


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post May 22 2019, 07:31 PM
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No, I'm just that grumpy old fart who yells at kids to get off his lawn and who thinks games were better before tongue.gif


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post May 22 2019, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ May 22 2019, 01:29 PM) *

QUOTE(mirocu @ May 22 2019, 07:08 PM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ May 22 2019, 05:01 PM) *

Khajiit is super excited!!!

I'm certainly not but I'll not rain on Khajiit's parade too much tongue.gif

Why aren’t you excited? Am I missing something here lol?

It is well known that our resident crow dislikes things that are new. Different strokes and all that jazz. laugh.gif


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post May 22 2019, 10:01 PM
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It is good to hear that there will be some options to customize character faces. One of the hard things about playing old games like this is not being able to change anything about how your character looks.

After I finish with Hecate, I am thinking of another playthrough with a Ventrue. Dominate is turning out to be really impressive in combat. If Fortitude works like turning you into a tank, that ought to be an impressive combination. Just add a sword and watch all the blood splatter!

That reminds me, I have seen some people say that Potence is basically useless. Apparently the way the game works it adds your strength + melee or brawl skill, with a max of 10, and the discipline adds onto that. But it still maxes out at 10. So a Strength 5, + Melee 5, + Potence 5 still only = 10?

Hmm, I did some digging, and it looks like with the Unofficial Patch the points beyond 10 get turned into Lethality. Whatever that means. So apparently it does still help.


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post May 22 2019, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 22 2019, 04:01 PM) *

It is good to hear that there will be some options to customize character faces. One of the hard things about playing old games like this is not being able to change anything about how your character looks.

After I finish with Hecate, I am thinking of another playthrough with a Ventrue. Dominate is turning out to be really impressive in combat. If Fortitude works like turning you into a tank, that ought to be an impressive combination. Just add a sword and watch all the blood splatter!

That reminds me, I have seen some people say that Potence is basically useless. Apparently the way the game works it adds your strength + melee or brawl skill, with a max of 10, and the discipline adds onto that. But it still maxes out at 10. So a Strength 5, + Melee 5, + Potence 5 still only = 10?

Hmm, I did some digging, and it looks like with the Unofficial Patch the points beyond 10 get turned into Lethality. Whatever that means. So apparently it does still help.

Hmmm, lethality is a weapon stat. Usually the higher the lethality of a weapon, the more damage you do per strike. Maybe it adds a buff to the lethality of whatever weapon/s you use while under the effects of the power?


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post May 22 2019, 10:49 PM
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I have never really understood how damage works.


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post May 22 2019, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 22 2019, 04:49 PM) *

I have never really understood how damage works.

Here is a Reddit post with the supposed math:
Whenever there is a hit, the damage is then calculated in the following manner –

Damage Potential = Base Damage x (Lethality + Feat Adjustment)

So, if the PC, who has a Melee combat Feat of 5, uses a Knife which has a Melee Combat Requirement of 4, Lethality of 7, and Base Damage of 3, then the Damage Potential is 24 = 3 x (7+1) .


Khajiit thinks that feat adjustment could be a number you subtract to get if you are trying to use a weapon that you do not meet the requirements for. So in the example if you used the same weapon but had a melee combat of only 3, it would calculate like this:
18 = 3(7-1)

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post May 23 2019, 01:14 AM
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That explains it. Mostly. Though it makes my head hurt. Maybe I need a drink... wink.gif


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post May 23 2019, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ May 22 2019, 07:14 PM) *

That explains it. Mostly. Though it makes my head hurt. Maybe I need a drink... wink.gif

Lol, yeah I know what you mean. Math dry.gif


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