So after a couple of failed attempts tonight, I managed to finish the Sibling Rivalry quest by convincing both Therese and Jeanette to coexist. I wrote it down since I know I will forget the next time I play.

To get the two sisters to coexist, you have to be very careful in all of your interactions with them. Be flirty with Jeanette, and subservient with Therese. Basically you have to get a high disposition with each. I believe in the early versions of the game, you need the exact same disposition with each one. But I think later versions patched it so that you only needed them high enough, but not necessarily equal.

But there is a way around that using the console to set your disposition with them before the final confrontation. Save the game before you do, because sometimes it locks up when using the console.

Open the console and type in:
G.Therese_Seduce = 4
G.Jeanette_Seduce = 4

(I am not sure if the commands are case sensitive or not)

You also need a Persuasion of at least 4. (A combination of Charisma and Scholarship) Otherwise you will never get the dialogue prompts you need.

When the final confrontation starts, just select every blue conversation option. There will be a few without them in the latter half. Just go with the neutral ones, that don't goad either one, and continue saying they should both work together. Eventually that will convince them to coexist. Which also gives you the most XP.

I’ve discovered that the Unofficial Patch (which everyone should have) came with a Software Development Kit (SDK)!!! It’s in the Patch Extras folder (GoG Games>VtMB>Patch Extras>Developer Tools>Bloodlines SDK)! I’ve just extracted a whole slew of files (like all of the basic content files) in one fell swoop!!!! Everything is categorized and organized so you know exactly where to go. It’s simply beautiful!!

*Edit: Addendum*
Well maybe not so beautiful. I'm getting some weirdness when I go to play the game. Started a new game as a female Gangrel, whose base clothing texture I altered. When the nasty intro cinematic played, my character was a male Malkavian and the sire was a common thug with a weird rainbow texture. When we got to the courtroom at the theatre, everything was fine except for the sire being the wrong model and messed up texture. When I got outside, i got a warning message about the original python files being messed up. I'm not 100% sure that using the SDK caused this, because I did have some weirdness with GoG several months ago that may have corrupted the game files. More testing is needed.

*Edit: Addendum 2*
Verifying and repairing the game through GoG seems to have cleared up the issues! The intro ran perfectly when I tried it after doing the repair.

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Feb 9 2021, 02:01 PM

I think next I’m going to try turning the Gangrel female base armor into the same one used by the Brujah female. I think that is going to be more involved though since there are more factors to consider than just the texture.

You will need to replace the models as well as the textures. And probably rename them all.

Yeah I figured as much. Sounds like a lot of work actually.

Hmmm...

It appears you can’t just rename Brujah textures and models as Gangrel ones and expect them to work. Curious.

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Feb 10 2021, 01:43 AM

I have been thinking that I am going to have to play a Vampire character named Anne Eemia.


Yeah, you have to change the models too. You might be able to just replace the models. Often the location of the textures is coded into the model files, and the game just says use model x. Then when it does, the model x file tells the game where the texture is. Because of that I have a seen a lot of PC skin mods that are just the model files.

Look at Playable NPCs. It just has the model files of various NPCs renamed for you to paste into your models folder. That is all it takes if you are just copying a vanilla model and texture.

*edit* I didn’t read what you posted fully but now i have so I’ll study those and see if I can figure it out. Thank you!

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Feb 10 2021, 03:41 AM

I am guessing that you should be able to find the relevant Brujah model files, copy them to the Gangrel folders, and rename them the same as the original Gangrel files. It looks like there are only 4 files per Armor outfit.

There might be texture files you have to copy as well. I looked back at the mod I linked to, and it has both models and textures (the latter are the ones under the Materials folder).

Well, I found this video. It is showing you how to change the Malkavian female base armor to look like Jennette. It was a simple thing to just change the Gangrel female base armor to read from the Brujah base armor location, so now in game, the Gangrel base armor is the Brujah base armor. I then put the Gangrel head and hair textures I was using into a Brujah “armor0” folder and renamed them to the appropriate Brujah name. It works but there is a problem with the face texture that I’m going to have to figure out. It’s probably because the game is trying to read the new textures with some of the original Brujah ones. I’ll need to go in and find all of the Gangrel head files and try converting them into Brujah ones.

On a side note, I really don’t like the beanie that the Brujah base model wears, so I might just put it all back the way it was unless I can figure out how to get rid of it.

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Feb 10 2021, 02:39 PM

I just found this and will try it when I get home from work:

“Copy all files into the appropriate model and texture folders for the other clan. And now you need the vpktools. They are part of the patch extras.
Use the model tool, open the model files you just copied and change the texture path accordingly. Otherwise the game would try to use the original Tremere texture.”

Source: https://www.gog.com/forum/vampire_the_masqu...fit_mods_around

This might explain why I was getting an invisible character when I renamed the Brujah files to Gangrel.

Well after all of that, it turned out I just had the model files in the wrong “model” folder. I was putting them in the “vampire” model folder when they should’ve been going into the “Unofficial Patch” model folder. Renaming the Brujah model files to Gangrel worked fine then. My problem now is that there doesn’t appear to be an easy way of sticking the Gangrel head on the Brujah body. I only wanted the base armor from the Brujah but if the faces don’t match up, it’s not worth it. So I just kept everything the way it was originally and just altered the base Gangrel armor’s texture to be less ridiculous (it’s now a nice OD t-shirt with the word “Bitch” removed, black capri pants, and slate gray sneakers.). I may look at the other outfits and alter those a bit, but I’m satisfied for now. New playthrough coming soon.

Ok, here is something weird. I have been trying to change the Brujah female to use the Gangrel female body and face. I am getting tired of the beanie as well. Instead of trying to find all the model files in the packs, I thought I would take the easy route and just edit the clandoc file. But no matter what I changed the models to, it would not work.

I just figured out why. I was being careful and making a backup of the clandoc file before I edited it. Well the game was reading from the backup, even though I changed the name. I moved the backup to another folder, and voila! it worked.

Now I just have to change the gangrel's hair to blonde...

Oh, and if you change a model and the new one is not appearing. Punch something. Even empty air. Sometimes that is what it takes to force the game to update to the new model.

That is weird. It read my new clandoc just fine. Interesting. I must say, with the UP installed, the file system for this game is something of a mess, lol
Then again, it is kind of a messy game.

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Feb 12 2021, 12:26 PM

With the Unofficial Patch, you basically want to install all mods to the UP folder, not the game's base Vampire folder.

Yeah I learned that the hard way, although I will say that it doesn’t seem to matter about textures. They can actually go in the “vampire” folders and still work. Models definitely have to be in the UP folder though.

Now I have a broadsword. Ho! Ho! Ho!

January picked up the broadsword in the Lasombra quest added by the Unofficial Patch. I just tried it out with Potence. Wow! I did not realize it, but Potence adds to both unarmed and melee damage. Jan is just a wrecking machine with this thing.

Oh nice! Did you mod that in or was it added by the UP?

It is added by the full version of the UP. It adds a quest using the Lasombra I mentioned seeing lurking around the first time I played. When you trace him back to his lair and foil his dark ritual, you get the broadsword. I did not try using it for a while since I thought Potence was only for unarmed combat. Turns out I was wrong!

Ah got it. When I start my new playthrough I’ll have to look out for it!