With the Nossie, you just got done playing a mainly stealth character. Perhaps playing a Malk with a focus on guns and a minor in stealth would be a good option?

Well, they do have Auspex which helps with guns.

Indeed.

Though I never actually used Auspex at all. Guess I didn't realize how good it is with guns


Btw, Subrosa is correct; the guns are weak, almost to the point of why bother. I still used them though becuase I'm a gun nut. I like when it goes BOOM

Brigitte actually used the hell out of the little Glock pistol and the JaegerSpas. The Steyr also came in handy during the fight against the Chiropteran Behemoth.

I played a Toreador a bit longer into Santa Monica. I spent a lot of time trying to scrape up enough money to buy a pistol from Trip. Only then did I go to the beach shack to get the astrolite from the punks who had ambushed Mercutio. The first thing I did there was turn off the power, and sneak attack kill the guy who came back alone to fix it. A guy carrying a pistol... Sigh.

I also gave a Gangrel a go. Protean has really turned out to be surprising, and not in a good way. When I turn it on, I cannot hold a ranged weapon of any kind. My guess is I probably cannot hold a melee weapon either, but have not tried that. I also noticed that the attack animations are slower and clumsier than the regular bare-handed attacks. Finally, I read on one forum post today that Protean claws use the Melee Weapon skill rather than Brawl? Oi! Ok, I just looked again, and that was for the Camarilla Edition mod. Not the vanilla game or Unofficial Patched versions (I think).

That is not all. For some reason with Protean turned on, I cannot go to first person pov.

So weird, and kind of underwhelming.


Lyceia is a female canine...

Lyceia is about to make some California pizza, heavy on the sauce...

Time to hit the nail salon

We are twins!

Yeah, the Spas and the Steyr are good. I also like the Anaconda but that's basically it for me. It takes too many bullets to take a foe down, even regular humans. Besides them going BOOM I used guns also because I like to have enemies away from me because that means taking less damage while dealing damage


@Sub - Yeah, I noticed that about Protein too with my very first character. You can't hold anything because in that mode you are using your claws. Which is why I never used that discipline.

This post has been edited by mirocu: Feb 27 2021, 08:51 AM

I think the only guns I really had much use for were the Spas and sometimes the Swat rifle. I seem to recall that Hecate used the Glock for a bit. But that was before I realized what I could do with at katana.

I did discover a way to take down the Sheriff in his bat-form. There are two spotlights on the roof where you fight. Turn them on, and when he flies through their lights, he is forced down to the roof. You can slice and dice him there.

Yup, that's what I did too except I used guns. Funny thing is he never learns and keep flying into those lights and drop down

I just had the same problem with the game freezing on the Load Game screen that I had a few weeks ago. I was able to trace it down to corrupted save games. I figured it out when I tried to move my save games to another folder, and the Windows file move process literally froze on a handful of specific files. After I deleted them, the rest moved just fine. I moved the other files back, and the game runs just fine.

So something is clearly going wrong with those particular files. Most of them were late game saves, so were 6gb and change in size. But I had larger files that worked just fine. Maybe I had too much stuff in my inventory? Maybe there was too much stuff laying around like guns that I could not pick up? I don't know.

Hmmm, the only trouble with save games I’ve ever had was because I tried to play an older save file on a newer GOG version.

Well I gave up on my Gangrel game. The issues with Protean were just too much. Especially not being able to pick locks with it turned on. That and how clumsy the attack animations are. I was constantly missing in combat. It kept making me remember how much better it went with January. So I started a new game with her. Hopefully this time I can finish it.

As you know, my next play through was going to be a Gangrel. I was originally planning on a protean focused character so it is a bit disappointing that you say it doesn’t perform well. I’ll probably still try it for myself just to see, but now I’m wondering if a gun focused character with Animalism and fortitude support would be fun.

That's exactly what I did with my Gangrel, worked pretty good. Especially with Animalism where you can keep stealing blood while in sneak mode


Also, am I the only one disappointed in Celerity? At one point I maxed it out just to see how it worked but all it did was making me feel like I was walking in jelly. I never actually felt much faster than the enemies

I’ve never used celerity, so I can’t say.

Yes, it seems kind of useless. So far as I can tell it does nothing in melee combat. I think its effects only work when using ranged combat, so you shoot and reload faster.

Looks like for Toreador, it’s primarily good for firearms, coupled with Auspex.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com...y_seem_so_weak/

This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Mar 3 2021, 01:47 AM

That is what I have read too. When I am done with January I am going to go back to that Toreador game and try again with firearms.

I just tried a little test in the Hallowbrook Hotel. I used the console to give January a Perception and Celerity of 5 each. Then I tried shooting it out with the Sabbat with the Steyr. It was a lot different. Time does slow down. You can actually see the bullets slowly coming toward you through the air, and move around them. So it is basically bullet time.

January went back to her normal game. I put more points into Celerity, enough to get it up to 4. This time out I found it was definitely changing things in melee combat. Everyone was moving a lot slower, myself included. Doors became something of a hassle, as they were so slow to open. I was moving forward to walk through them, and getting stuck in them because they were not opening like normal. When fighting, I was definitely hitting people 3 or 4 times more than they attacked me.

A long time back I read not to put points into Investigation. This time out I used the console to give Jan 5 points in it from the start of the game. I did see a real difference with it. The glowing streamers above items became much more visible. It did make things a lot easier. I was not walking past things without realizing they were there. I even discovered some thing I never knew existed until now.

My first time Downtown I witnessed a gang war. These Jets and Sharks all killed each other right in front of me.

Stormcrow does not simply walk into Mordor... She leaps!

January is powered up

I discovered these secret doors in the Giovanni Mansion. They lead to secret passages that go all the way around each side of the building, with one way mirrors to spy on the people inside.

January has a new sword!

Come at me wolf-bro!

Valhalla Awaits

Last one standing