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post Jun 26 2023, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 26 2023, 02:30 PM) *

I'm late to the party, and in any case can think of no new insights to put forward. It's possible that the motherboard battery died, but they generally last ages before expiring, and it seems highly unlikely that it would choose to die at the same exact time as the components move. For what it's worth (nothing), my primary PC's month's-long shimmering/flickering-graphics issue solved itself. I turned it on one day to attempt to run more tests before my eyes fried, to boot into a rock-solid screen. No idea what happened, but I'm not looking a gift-house in the mouth.

See, I really don’t like when these things just “sort themselves out”, lol
I need to to know why!! Why are you doing this, and why did you just decide to start working?! laugh.gif

I am glad your problem has been resolved, at least for now.

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post Jun 26 2023, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 26 2023, 09:22 PM) *

See, I really don’t like when these things just “sort themselves out”, lol
I need to to know why!! Why are you doing this, and why did you just decide to start working?! laugh.gif

I know exactly what you mean.

Did you know that mods can go off like milk? Just like that, without you changing anything. blink.gif This happened yesterday. My Oblivion wouldn't start. I didn't change anything at all! ohmy.gif

After some investigation it turned out that OBSE wouldn't start. Why not? Going through OBSE mods (the ones that come in a form of DLL rather than an ESP), I discovered that Oblivion Display Tweaks DLL stopped working. I've had it there with exactly the same settings for some two years now! My Windows no longer updates! My video drivers are the same! What happened?! mad.gif

I still don't know what happened, but I found that I had to change some of the tweaks in the INI. Namely the TickFix method had to be changed from 1 to 2. The description says "it's the same thing, but done with a different method". Well, why is method 1 no longer suitable? Huh? And why method 2 now works????


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post Jun 26 2023, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Jun 26 2023, 04:36 PM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 26 2023, 09:22 PM) *

See, I really don’t like when these things just “sort themselves out”, lol
I need to to know why!! Why are you doing this, and why did you just decide to start working?! laugh.gif

I know exactly what you mean.

Did you know that mods can go off like milk? Just like that, without you changing anything. blink.gif This happened yesterday. My Oblivion wouldn't start. I didn't change anything at all! ohmy.gif

After some investigation it turned out that OBSE wouldn't start. Why not? Going through OBSE mods (the ones that come in a form of DLL rather than an ESP), I discovered that Oblivion Display Tweaks DLL stopped working. I've had it there with exactly the same settings for some two years now! My Windows no longer updates! My video drivers are the same! What happened?! mad.gif

I still don't know what happened, but I found that I had to change some of the tweaks in the INI. Namely the TickFix method had to be changed from 1 to 2. The description says "it's the same thing, but done with a different method". Well, why is method 1 no longer suitable? Huh? And why method 2 now works????

Ugh, yeah, that’s annoying!


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post Jun 28 2023, 03:47 AM
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Ok folks, another day, a new problem. So, I didn’t even look at my PC yesterday but when I got home today I decided to work on it. I unplugged everything from the mobo except the PSU and case connections, plugged the PSU back into a surge protector and flipped the switch, then hit the power button. SUCCESS! The LEDs on the mobo lit up and fans are spinning. We were getting somewhere. I plugged everything back in one by one and nothing kept it from turning on. So I moved the pc over to the tv to try and see if it would post. No signal. I also noticed that the keyboard and mouse are not working. I’ve read some things to try but would like to see what you guys had to say about it.


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post Jun 28 2023, 04:55 AM
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That sounds like your wall outlet is dead, or at least a breaker has flipped.


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post Jun 28 2023, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 27 2023, 09:47 PM) *

Ok folks, another day, a new problem. So, I didn’t even look at my PC yesterday but when I got home today I decided to work on it. I unplugged everything from the mobo except the PSU and case connections, plugged the PSU back into a surge protector and flipped the switch, then hit the power button. SUCCESS! The LEDs on the mobo lit up and fans are spinning. We were getting somewhere. I plugged everything back in one by one and nothing kept it from turning on. So I moved the pc over to the tv to try and see if it would post. No signal. I also noticed that the keyboard and mouse are not working. I’ve read some things to try but would like to see what you guys had to say about it.

How are those devices connected; cable or remote? The only thing I can think of that they have in common is the rear I/O panel on the mobo.
Does your mobo have a post button and/or error code lights? If so try to post and get the error code.
Trying to think of something but coming up blank. Truely annoying.


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post Jun 28 2023, 09:34 AM
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So, you plugged in everything that you also had plugged in from the start, and now it boots? So why did it not boot the first time? Perhaps the issue is with connectors.

Keyboard and mouse: where are you plugging them in? I'm assuming they are wired USB, so are you plugging them in directly to the motherboard or into some other board that may or may not have a stable connection to the motherboard?

When you say the PC doesn't post, do you mean you have no video output? How is this connected? Do you connect your TV straight to the motherboard or - more likely - to a graphics card which again may or may not have a stable connection to the motherboard? That's a lot of connections to check.


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post Jun 28 2023, 10:27 AM
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I believe your i7-4790 has integrated graphics. You might want to try plugging the PC into a monitor (or whatever) via the motherboard's integrated video socket rather than the GPU and see what happens. Assuming you didn't disable integrated graphics in the BIOS.


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post Jun 28 2023, 12:50 PM
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I greatly appreciate everyone’s input. In the end, this was the advice that led me to solve the issue:

QUOTE(macole @ Jun 28 2023, 03:20 AM) *

Does your mobo have a post button and/or error code lights? If so try to post and get the error code.
Trying to think of something but coming up blank. Truely annoying.


The error code lights on the mobo. I forgot to check this! Ok, so error code on the mobo display showed 2b, which Google told me was a RAM issue. I took out one of the RAM sticks, and the display appeared and sent me to the setup screen and BIOS (I had taken out the battery to reset the CMOS, which was apparently unnecessary). Then I turned it back off and I took out the RAM stick that was working and slotted the other one. Uh oh. No signal again. I took it back out and looked it over. It looked mostly fine except for a smudge of some sort on the contact so I took some isopropyl alcohol and gently wiped the contact with a paper towel soaked in a small amount of the alcohol. When it was dry, I slotted it back in and… SUCCESS! The display returned. Turned the pc off again and slotted the other RAM stick and booted windows just fine. Whew! Thanks again to all for the helpful advice, and now my pc is resting comfortably in its spacious new housing!


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post Jun 28 2023, 02:06 PM
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Glad your PC issue turned out to be something easily solvable!

And now, a not-so-shameless plug:

I recently bought (link) this item (link) on Amazon, which makes it far easier to see what I'm doing while tinkering around inside a computer case. It is of course useful in many other scenarios.


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post Jun 28 2023, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 28 2023, 08:06 AM) *

Glad your PC issue turned out to be something easily solvable!

And now, a not-so-shameless plug:

I recently bought (link) this item (link) on Amazon, which makes it far easier to see what I'm doing while tinkering around inside a computer case. It is of course useful in many other scenarios.

Man, I definitely wish I had something like that when I was doing all of this, lol
That would’ve been very helpful!


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post Jun 28 2023, 04:21 PM
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Modern high tech version of the 'penlight in your mouth'. tongue.gif


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post Jun 28 2023, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(Acadian @ Jun 28 2023, 10:21 AM) *

Modern high tech version of the 'penlight in your mouth'. tongue.gif

Lol


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post Jun 28 2023, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 28 2023, 06:50 AM) *

I greatly appreciate everyone’s input. In the end, this was the advice that led me to solve the issue:

QUOTE(macole @ Jun 28 2023, 03:20 AM) *

Does your mobo have a post button and/or error code lights? If so try to post and get the error code.
Trying to think of something but coming up blank. Truely annoying.


The error code lights on the mobo. I forgot to check this! Ok, so error code on the mobo display showed 2b, which Google told me was a RAM issue. I took out one of the RAM sticks, and the display appeared and sent me to the setup screen and BIOS (I had taken out the battery to reset the CMOS, which was apparently unnecessary). Then I turned it back off and I took out the RAM stick that was working and slotted the other one. Uh oh. No signal again. I took it back out and looked it over. It looked mostly fine except for a smudge of some sort on the contact so I took some isopropyl alcohol and gently wiped the contact with a paper towel soaked in a small amount of the alcohol. When it was dry, I slotted it back in and… SUCCESS! The display returned. Turned the pc off again and slotted the other RAM stick and booted windows just fine. Whew! Thanks again to all for the helpful advice, and now my pc is resting comfortably in its spacious new housing!

YAY!!! goodjob.gif


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post Jun 28 2023, 09:39 PM
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Khajiit, congrats on sorting it out! biggrin.gif


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post Jun 28 2023, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(macole @ Jun 28 2023, 03:34 PM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jun 28 2023, 06:50 AM) *

I greatly appreciate everyone’s input. In the end, this was the advice that led me to solve the issue:

QUOTE(macole @ Jun 28 2023, 03:20 AM) *

Does your mobo have a post button and/or error code lights? If so try to post and get the error code.
Trying to think of something but coming up blank. Truely annoying.


The error code lights on the mobo. I forgot to check this! Ok, so error code on the mobo display showed 2b, which Google told me was a RAM issue. I took out one of the RAM sticks, and the display appeared and sent me to the setup screen and BIOS (I had taken out the battery to reset the CMOS, which was apparently unnecessary). Then I turned it back off and I took out the RAM stick that was working and slotted the other one. Uh oh. No signal again. I took it back out and looked it over. It looked mostly fine except for a smudge of some sort on the contact so I took some isopropyl alcohol and gently wiped the contact with a paper towel soaked in a small amount of the alcohol. When it was dry, I slotted it back in and… SUCCESS! The display returned. Turned the pc off again and slotted the other RAM stick and booted windows just fine. Whew! Thanks again to all for the helpful advice, and now my pc is resting comfortably in its spacious new housing!

YAY!!! goodjob.gif



QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Jun 28 2023, 03:39 PM) *

Khajiit, congrats on sorting it out! biggrin.gif

Couldn’t have done it without my Chorrol fam! wub.gif


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post Jun 29 2023, 03:41 AM
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QUOTE(Decrepit @ Jun 28 2023, 08:06 AM) *

I recently bought (link) this item (link) on Amazon, which makes it far easier to see what I'm doing while tinkering around inside a computer case. It is of course useful in many other scenarios.

Nice!


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post Jul 11 2023, 08:55 PM
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I’m thinking about getting an AMD RX 6700 XT for my next PC build. It’s on sale on Amazon currently. Anyone here familiar with AMD cards and how they behave?


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post Jul 11 2023, 09:55 PM
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I have never had an AMD, so I have no idea.


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post Jul 11 2023, 10:13 PM
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AMD behaves badly with Oblivion. Don't know about other games, but the processing is very different from Intel, so if a game (or any software) is optimised for Intel, it will perform badly on AMD. You need to read up on the websites for those applications that you intend to run. Serious applications have benchmarks, while games have forums with possibly useful posts. wink.gif


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