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post Jul 11 2023, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Jul 11 2023, 04:13 PM) *

AMD behaves badly with Oblivion. Don't know about other games, but the processing is very different from Intel, so if a game (or any software) is optimised for Intel, it will perform badly on AMD. You need to read up on the websites for those applications that you intend to run. Serious applications have benchmarks, while games have forums with possibly useful posts. wink.gif

Oh sorry, guess I should have clarified that I was asking about AMD GPU’s wacko.gif
I’m eying an Intel i5 12600k for my next cpu.


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post Jul 11 2023, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jul 11 2023, 10:23 PM) *

QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Jul 11 2023, 04:13 PM) *

AMD behaves badly with Oblivion. Don't know about other games, but the processing is very different from Intel, so if a game (or any software) is optimised for Intel, it will perform badly on AMD. You need to read up on the websites for those applications that you intend to run. Serious applications have benchmarks, while games have forums with possibly useful posts. wink.gif

Oh sorry, guess I should have clarified that I was asking about AMD GPU’s wacko.gif
I’m eying an Intel i5 12600k for my next cpu.

Exactly the same goes also for GPUs, according to what I read about issues with AMD graphic cards with Oblivion.


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post Jul 12 2023, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Jul 11 2023, 04:13 PM) *

AMD behaves badly with Oblivion. Don't know about other games, but the processing is very different from Intel, so if a game (or any software) is optimised for Intel, it will perform badly on AMD. You need to read up on the websites for those applications that you intend to run. Serious applications have benchmarks, while games have forums with possibly useful posts. wink.gif


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I have to limit the maximum frame rate to 240 to keep it from running way faster than the monitor

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post Jul 12 2023, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jul 11 2023, 02:55 PM) *

I’m thinking about getting an AMD RX 6700 XT for my next PC build. It’s on sale on Amazon currently. Anyone here familiar with AMD cards and how they behave?

Since 2016 my GPU has been an AMD RX480. I've had no issues with it while playing Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. Unless you're going to be heavy into ray tracing your choice of a RX 6700 XT is a good one.


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post Jul 12 2023, 05:41 PM
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So, it seems that what I read about problems with AMD and Oblivion is just an urban myth! So for the better! biggrin.gif


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post Jul 13 2023, 02:20 AM
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Likely just one old card model had probs.


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post Jul 13 2023, 12:01 PM
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Well, it was a difficult struggle, but wisdom prevailed and I ended up not buying any new PC components. Oh well, it was fun shopping. I guess.


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post Sep 14 2023, 08:15 PM
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I went and done it, bought myself a new toy, an RTX 4070. Overkill, considering my monitor is a 24" 1080p, and is likely to remain so for some time to come. An irony, my last build sported a Gigabyte (Aorus) motherboard and an MSI GTX 1070 GPU. My primary PC now has an MSI motherboard and a Gigabyte GPU. As for the GPU physical swap-out, it was a no-brainer, except that loosening the GPU socket's card-retaining-device took far longer than it had any right to. This was my first opportunity to work inside the PC using the headband flashlight bought some months ago . . . two thumbs up! A solid recommendation.

I worried that the new GPU might be so massive/heavy it needs a support post or brace to prevent sagging and possibly damage to the PCIE slot. Pleasant surprise No1: though the new GPU is a three-fan model, whereas the 1070 is a two-fan model, both GPUs are the same length. Pleasant surprise No2: the 4070 weights slightly less than the 1070! It also requires only a single eight-pin power cord from the PSU. The 1070 needs both eight-pin and a four-pin CPU power adapters. Neither GPU nor motherboard feature RGB lighting, a plus for me. Not that it matters. The PC case it situation such that I can not see its side-panel glass.

I also updated to the "latest" Nvidia GPU driver. Naturally, they released a newer driver the very next day. I've not yet bothered to LD it.


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post Sep 15 2023, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(Decrepit @ Sep 14 2023, 02:15 PM) *

I went and done it, bought myself a new toy, an RTX 4070. Overkill, considering my monitor is a 24" 1080p, and is likely to remain so for some time to come. An irony, my last build sported a Gigabyte (Aorus) motherboard and an MSI GTX 1070 GPU. My primary PC now has an MSI motherboard and a Gigabyte GPU. As for the GPU physical swap-out, it was a no-brainer, except that loosening the GPU socket's card-retaining-device took far longer than it had any right to. This was my first opportunity to work inside the PC using the headband flashlight bought some months ago . . . two thumbs up! A solid recommendation.

I worried that the new GPU might be so massive/heavy it needs a support post or brace to prevent sagging and possibly damage to the PCIE slot. Pleasant surprise No1: though the new GPU is a three-fan model, whereas the 1070 is a two-fan model, both GPUs are the same length. Pleasant surprise No2: the 4070 weights slightly less than the 1070! It also requires only a single eight-pin power cord from the PSU. The 1070 needs both eight-pin and a four-pin CPU power adapters. Neither GPU nor motherboard feature RGB lighting, a plus for me. Not that it matters. The PC case it situation such that I can not see its side-panel glass.

I also updated to the "latest" Nvidia GPU driver. Naturally, they released a newer driver the very next day. I've not yet bothered to LD it.

Ooo nice! Have fun with it!!


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post Sep 16 2023, 09:16 PM
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The RAM I ordered finally showed up. It is a simple install. Just open the case, and pop them into their slots.

So naturally it took over two hours of fighting with the damn thing. *sigh* First off the memory slots are on both sides of the CPU, and their orientation flips when they change sides. So the top side is different on each. I did not notice that, so first I was putting half of them in backwards, and did not realize I was doing so.

Next the slots are really close to the CPU, which of course has a massive heat sink and fan atop it. So there is zero extra space on one side, and it is merely tight on the other. If that was not enough, the RAM currently in place (that I was keeping, I was just adding more chips to the slots that were still open), got in the way of me reaching the motherboard. To make them look cool the company put an extra plastic piece on the back with their logo on it. It makes it easy to handle, since there is plenty to grab on to. But it also makes it impossible to get my fingers in between the spaces between the chips that way.

So I had to pull all the old RAM out, to the put the new RAM in, and then put the old RAM back in as well.

Then the computer would not come on at all. So I went back through all the chips to make sure they were seated. And the computer would not come on. So I took the new chips out, which meant taking the old ones out to get at them first, which meant putting the old ones back in. And the computer still would not start.

And I unplugged the power cable from the PC, plugged it back in, and then it would boot.

Because of course it would that way.

So I did it all over again, and put all the chips in. Pulled the power cable out and put it back in, and it worked.

Except I only had 28 GB of memory. It should have been 32. So I used CPU-Z (a handy little utility program) and it showed one of my memory slots was empty. Of course there was no way to tell which slot that actually was. All I could gather was that it was one of the new chips, because it showed the manufacturer name of every chip it did see, and I was missing one of the new ones.

So back into the case I went, pulling more chips out, putting them back in, unplugging the power cable and putting it back in, and now I have my full 32 GB of RAM.

Yay!

While I was at it I cleaned up the inside of the case, since I had not been in there in a while and a lot of dust had built up. I even took out one of the fans and the side panel and washed them both off.


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post Sep 16 2023, 10:21 PM
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Sorry to hear you had so much trouble but glad that it all worked out in the end.


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post Sep 17 2023, 12:11 AM
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Getting memory to install correctly can be a lesson in frustration, as I have experienced on occasion. Thankfully, it came out well for you in the end. smile.gif


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post Sep 18 2023, 04:38 PM
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Yeah, memory so finicky.


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post Sep 19 2023, 05:43 PM
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Ya can't win.

Yesterday evening, end of my so-called active day, shutting down computer. Pressed power button at monitor bottom right corner. If fell off. Monitor remained on. Found fallen (tiny) button. Pressed it into monitor power-button hole. It met resistance and flew out of my hand. A semi thorough search failed to find it. Monitor remained on. Created makeshift power hole insert from old wire tie. Pressed it into power button hole. Success, monitor off.

Early this morning. Turned on computer. Pressed makeshift insert into monitor power button hole. Monitor turned on. Problem . . . makeshift insert is, by necessity, rather small. Area of desk below monitor is cluttered with lots of stuff used frequently. Due to accessing some of it, I've already lost, at least misplaced, makeshift insert.

I'd ideally like to find the actual broken-off monitor button power button and see if Supergluing its handle will fix the problem. Finding it is theoretically possible, but so far hasn't panned out.

I can of course use this as an admittedly poor excuse to make the jump to a 27-32" IPS 1440p monitor, which I hope to do eventually in any case. But . . . I pretty much exhausted this month's luxury-item funds on the RTX4070. It's something to ponder. And while I can't afford a super-high quality monitor, I do want to spend enough to get one that is a substantial improvement over what I have not, which for a 24" TN panel is quite a decent monitor. Besides, using makeshift inserts may inconvenient and bit finicky, they get the job done.

(ADDENDUM: I found the broken off original monitor power button.)

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post Sep 19 2023, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(Decrepit @ Sep 19 2023, 11:43 AM) *

Ya can't win.

Yesterday evening, end of my so-called active day, shutting down computer. Pressed power button at monitor bottom right corner. If fell off. Monitor remained on. Found fallen (tiny) button. Pressed it into monitor power-button hole. It met resistance and flew out of my hand. A semi thorough search failed to find it. Monitor remained on. Created makeshift power hole insert from old wire tie. Pressed it into power button hole. Success, monitor off.

Early this morning. Turned on computer. Pressed makeshift insert into monitor power button hole. Monitor turned on. Problem . . . makeshift insert is, by necessity, rather small. Area of desk below monitor is cluttered with lots of stuff used frequently. Due to accessing some of it, I've already lost, at least misplaced, makeshift insert.

I'd ideally like to find the actual broken-off monitor button power button and see if Supergluing its handle will fix the problem. Finding it is theoretically possible, but so far hasn't panned out.

I can of course use this as an admittedly poor excuse to make the jump to a 27-32" IPS 1440p monitor, which I hope to do eventually in any case. But . . . I pretty much exhausted this month's luxury-item funds on the RTX4070. It's something to ponder. And while I can't afford a super-high quality monitor, I do want to spend enough to get one that is a substantial improvement over what I have not, which for a 24" TN panel is quite a decent monitor. Besides, using makeshift inserts may inconvenient and bit finicky, they get the job done.

(ADDENDUM: I found the broken off original monitor power button.)

Aw man that sounds like that was annoying! Glad you found the button!

For lack of an actual desk I am currently using our living room tv as a monitor. Just slide a coffee table in front of it when I need to use a keyboard and mouse. Makes my neck kinda tired looking up at it though.


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post Sep 19 2023, 09:11 PM
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It fell off! ohmy.gif Ok, that has never happened to me!

And after all that, you find the button. Sheesh! You need to make a sacrifice to the digital gods, for they are angry with thee!


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Glad you found the recalcitrant button. I hope supergluing it into position is drama-free. smile.gif


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My experience of gluing back buttons is that they tend to glue back too well, and the item is permanently ON. Hope that doesn't happen to you.


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Seems like Youtube is cracking down on adblockers. Went from Adblock Plus to Ublock origin and it seemed to work. But now I got that message window again dry.gif


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post Oct 17 2023, 08:54 PM
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Seems like Youtube is cracking down on adblockers. Went from Adblock Plus to Ublock origin and it seemed to work. But now I got that message window again dry.gif

Yeah, for a couple of days I'd occasionally get the YT AdBlock warning when launching videos. My blocker of choice, currently Adblocker Ultimate on Firefox, seems to now be updated to restore sanity. I suspect it's gonna be an ongoing struggle between YT and the various AB creators from here on out.

(I also fired up my secondary browser, Brave, just long enough to see that its built-in blocker continues to perform like a champion.)


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