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mALX |
Dec 10 2015, 10:58 PM
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Renee |
Dec 23 2015, 04:58 PM
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Yeah, I could see Jerric as a milk drinker. Not sure why. I Lol'd at the way he can't help but drink other peoples' too! This just in: White Wizard is definitely NOT a milk drinker. It's weird. He looks at the menus various vendors have, and he simply never goes there. He's not very particular otherwise. He won't eat cabbage, he's not too much into sweets, won't touch horker meat, but everything else ... he's not too particular. Despite being a former beggar, he also doesn't touch alcohol very often. He had a bottle of wine at the College the other day, but this was in his off-time, relaxing and such. Maybe this is why he's survived so far, while all his former beggar friends have either perished or gone back home.
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Renee |
Jan 23 2025, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(Renee Gade IV @ Feb 20 2015, 07:59 PM)  Is your character a milk drinker? ... I am not going to define what exactly a 'milk drinker' is, so you all can interpret this in any way you like. What exactly is a milk drinker? It's open for interpretation.
Laprima Anne Donnaugh is a milk drinker, I'd say. Here she is having some bread, after days of exhausted travel. Pretty sure I've got a pic of her drinking a flask of something, too. Can't find it at the moment. But anyway, I'm going by our typical description here on Earth: milk = wholesome. "Cornfed" as we sometimes say in the States. Tries to do the right thing. Maybe even stuck in childhood a bit, and by that I mean an adult who loves cereal, and not just for breakfast. š„£ There is no cereal in Skyrim of course, maybe some mod adds oatmeal.  Otherwise, Laprima is just those things. Wholesome (meaning she's got values which are virtuous and valiant). Tries to do the right thing for sure. Gets caught up into the schemes of others on occasion, because she's a bit naive and trusting. Hm... naĆÆve, there that's better. Gotta get that umlaut. Anyway, she literally enjoys milk, as well as mod-added fruit drinks. Alcohol is secondary, for sure.
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SubRosa |
Jan 23 2025, 11:30 PM
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I am glad you resurrected this thread. I have some new (since then) characters who have made their way from fiction to Skyrim on occasion. January is absolutely a milk drinker. Literally. She prefers almond milk btw. While she is a ferocious fighter, she is motivated by empathy and compassion for others, not hate, or vengeance, or cruelty. Everything she does in motivated by the desire to treat others with the same kindness and decency that she wishes they would treat her with. Blood Raven is almost the opposite. She has a limited store of empathy, and rations it out with care. She does not drink milk, she devours life. Being a vampire after all. Still, she always endevours to fight the good fight, and be on the right side of history. She has been around long enough for history books to have been written about events she has helped shape after all, sometimes to her dismay. Avery is definitely a milk drinker too. Like January, he is just a good person at heart, who wants to do right by others. But unlike her, he is not a fearless warrior. Instead he is a prudent wizard, and not one to dive into situations without knowing whether he can get himself out of them later. Ryo is another milk drinker. Though certainly the least milkiest of January, Avery, and himself. He is again a kind person, who wants to make things better for people. But he's more willing someone whom he calculates is a threat that cannot be otherwise contained. He keeps a tight rein on his emotions. But when he loses his temper, he will end the person who caused that to be so, unless someone else intervenes to stop him. White Fell is not a milk drinker. She is an albino orphan from the backwoods. Life has not been easy for her, and other people rarely rarely improve her life. Still, like Blood Raven, she wants be on the right side of history. So she fights the good fight, and is ready to kick back and enjoy a tankard of ale after smiting a few evildoers. Mortis has forgotten what milk is. She is a tomb-raider who became a semi-permanent resident of one of the tombs she tried to raid. Now she is a draugr. She has left the tomb and gone out to explore the world that has turned on in her long absence, and occasionally plays at being alive by wearing a disguise ( which is totally believable btw, completely fooling everyone...)
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Jan 24 2025, 12:12 PM
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 Letās see. Brenna (the original Skyrim versión): being from High Rock, I figure she doth enjoy a spot of cream in her tea or maybe chilled and honeyed for a sweet treat. The Skyrim version of TheCheshireKhajiit (forget his name, lol): definitely. I mean heās a cat person, lol Saryn: no. Sheās a vampire so she only drinks blood.
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Lena Wolf |
Jan 24 2025, 12:19 PM
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It is interesting how you guys interpret the term "milk drinker". In my vocabulary it's a swear word meaning "coward".  This is also the way the Nords use it, both in Morrowind's Blood Moon and in TES5 Skyrim (as far as I recall). Also, there's only one meaning of "cornfed" that I know - and that's a corn-fed chicken. Not exactly flattering either... 
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Jan 24 2025, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(Lena Wolf @ Jan 24 2025, 05:19 AM)  It is interesting how you guys interpret the term "milk drinker". In my vocabulary it's a swear word meaning "coward".  This is also the way the Nords use it, both in Morrowind's Blood Moon and in TES5 Skyrim (as far as I recall). Also, there's only one meaning of "cornfed" that I know - and that's a corn-fed chicken. Not exactly flattering either...  I wonder, do people actually roleplay characters that could be considered āmilk drinkersā? How would one even do this? Literally nothing in the game would get done because your character wouldnāt be going on adventures or getting into fights and what not.
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ghastley |
Jan 24 2025, 05:09 PM
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I know at least person did a pacifist run-through of one of the single-player TES games. They found enough non-combat quests to make progress and/or had companions and hirelings do the dirty work.
In Oblivion it was possible to gain 100% damage reflection, so your enemies would kill themselves by attacking you. The problem was getting all that gear together without fighting for it.
Another consideration is whether milk is available as a drink. Morrowind critters were mostly bugs, so supplies were suspect. Skyrim has cattle, and milk. Oblivion might have needed COBL.
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Lena Wolf |
Jan 24 2025, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 24 2025, 03:18 PM)  I wonder, do people actually roleplay characters that could be considered āmilk drinkersā? How would one even do this? Literally nothing in the game would get done because your character wouldnāt be going on adventures or getting into fights and what not.
You could sit around a mead hall and see how much mead you could drink before you fell over... But actually, Ghastley is right: learn Conjuration and have your Fred the Skellie do all the work. Or something along those lines. It's quite a challenge, to be sure!
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Renee |
Jan 25 2025, 12:11 AM
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Thank you. Am glad I resurrected it too. š¼ Nice to see Jan and all your Skyrim/Stormcrow recreations in one place. Khajiit forgot his own character's name! Yes, cornfed has a couple different meanings in the States. I think originally it pertained to animals, but over the decades farming communities began equating "cornfed" humans to healthy & maybe strong. "milk drinker" brings up Skyrim references at Urban Dictionary.  ".... often used by City Guards to suggest a person is weak and / or young / inexperienced." QUOTE I wonder, do people actually roleplay characters that could be considered āmilk drinkersā? Yes. QUOTE How would one even do this? L I can't answer for others, but for me, it's not like I intentionally set out to make a character who's going to turn out this way.  The Milk Drinker traits (whatever they are) just sort of develop as I get to know my characters over time. In Cyrodiil there are supposed to be cows; they're mentioned in lore somewhere. š Cows can also be seen in Daggerfall. But you're correct, not in Morrowind. I'd assume not in Elsweyr or Black Marsh. I agree. Jandaga is not a milk drinker.  But you've had plenty other characters macole, certainly some of them could fit whatever definition you're coming up with.
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Jan 25 2025, 05:42 AM
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QUOTE(Renee @ Jan 24 2025, 05:11 PM)  Khajiit forgot his own character's name!
It was 2011-early 2012, cut me some slack! 
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Lena Wolf |
Jan 25 2025, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(Renee @ Jan 24 2025, 11:11 PM)  In Cyrodiil there are supposed to be cows; they're mentioned in lore somewhere. š Cows can also be seen in Daggerfall. But you're correct, not in Morrowind. I'd assume not in Elsweyr or Black Marsh.
Well, milk doesn't have to come from cows, per se. Sheep, goats, mammoths, zebras, camels - they are all good too! There are plenty of sheep in Cyrodiil, and of course there's cheese, so there must be milk somewhere too (I don't believe they milk women for it - yuck!!!). In TES5 giants make mammoth cheese - that's made with mammoth milk. Mammoths are like big cows, really. So in Elsweyr you could have camel milk if there were any camels... but I think they have other animals like zebras, don't they? And elephants... hmm... they are mammals... but I don't think anyone gets to milk them, frankly.
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ghastley |
Jan 26 2025, 11:46 PM
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Good point that cheese implies milk. So we know that Bastien is not likely to be a milk drinker. Does Sheogorath, and his cheese obsession, relate to this question? Is milk the on-ramp to cheese and madness?
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