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post Jan 24 2025, 09:23 PM
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Found a really good video retrospecting Bloodlines. It's not trying to be funny, quirky or anything like that. Just an interesting look back on the game with all its good and bad points. Highly recommend watching!


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post Jan 24 2025, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 24 2025, 02:23 PM) *

Found a really good video retrospecting Bloodlines. It's not trying to be funny, quirky or anything like that. Just an interesting look back on the game with all its good and bad points. Highly recommend watching!


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post Jan 25 2025, 12:00 AM
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Cripes, this game looks incredible! I can see why it's highly-regarded. evillol.gif Why did the guy in the video say Bloodlines was "poorly received" or whatever??


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post Jan 25 2025, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(Renee @ Jan 24 2025, 05:00 PM) *

Cripes, this game looks incredible! I can see why it's highly-regarded. evillol.gif Why did the guy in the video say Bloodlines was "poorly received" or whatever??

When V:TM-B was released, it was an absolute mess. Its development was notoriously fraught with issues that, through no real fault of the development team, caused the game to not only be released as a buggy mess, but an unfinished buggy mess. It was so bad that the studio, Troika, was shut down afterwards. It’s like if BGS made Oblivion under ridiculous conditions and deadlines, and then when it came out really rough, Bethesda (the parent company) shut down BGS because of it. It’s only thanks to talented modders that saw the potential of the game that we are now able to play it with relatively few bugs (I won’t say “bug free” because it does still have some issues) through the unofficial patch. They even managed to restore some unfinished content.

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post Jan 25 2025, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 24 2025, 11:12 PM) *

But ‘Rocu, you don’t like V:TM-B. tongue.gif

That's not true! I only hate the sarcophogus, the whole Tzimize business, the warrens, the useless guns, the annoying zombies, the Ming Xio fight, Griffith Park and the tediousness of the tower when you go after LaCroix! Other than that, it's fine! biggrin.gif


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post Jan 25 2025, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 25 2025, 01:49 AM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 24 2025, 11:12 PM) *

But ‘Rocu, you don’t like V:TM-B. tongue.gif

That's not true! I only hate the sarcophogus, the whole Tzimize business, the warrens, the useless guns, the annoying zombies, the Ming Xio fight, Griffith Park and the tediousness of the tower when you go after LaCroix! Other than that, it's fine! biggrin.gif

That’s still a very large chunk of the game lol.

I liked Griffith Park. I have never been so terrified by a video game. My heart was pounding the entire time the first time I went through there.


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post Jan 25 2025, 02:45 PM
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Which is scarier: Bloodlines or DOOM 3?


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post Jan 25 2025, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 25 2025, 02:34 PM) *

That’s still a very large chunk of the game lol.

I know, that was the joke tongue.gif

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 25 2025, 02:34 PM) *

I liked Griffith Park.

I think you can consider yourself in the minority here laugh.gif

QUOTE(Renee @ Jan 25 2025, 02:45 PM) *

Which is scarier: Bloodlines or DOOM 3?

Oh, Doom 3 hands down. Bloodlines is more campy and fun.


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post Jan 27 2025, 03:30 PM
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V:TM-B has its moments though. The Ocean House Hotel, 609 Kings Way, the aforementioned Griffith Park. The museum when you turn that corner and there’s a velociraptor right in your face. laugh.gif

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post Jan 27 2025, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 27 2025, 03:30 PM) *

V:TM-B has its moments though. The Ocean House Hotel

I like it, but after five playthroughs it's just tedious imho kvleft.gif

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 27 2025, 03:30 PM) *

609 Kings Way,

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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 27 2025, 03:30 PM) *

the aforementioned Griffith Park

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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 27 2025, 03:30 PM) *

The museum when you turn that corner and there’s a velociraptor right in your face. laugh.gif

One of my favourite places in the game! Not only because of the dinosaurs but because it's a fun place in general and a cake.gif walk as a Malk biggrin.gif

Another fave place is Chinatown. I always like Asian themed maps in games, Deus Ex has a great one too.


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post Jan 27 2025, 06:10 PM
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Lol
Ooo I was also really unnerved by the Stanley Gimble quest the first time I played it. That s*** was creepy!


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post Jan 27 2025, 06:12 PM
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I really gotta try Vampire. evillol.gif you folks are making me want to at least get it from GoG (if it's on GoG).



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post Jan 27 2025, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 27 2025, 06:10 PM) *

Lol
Ooo I was also really unnerved by the Stanley Gimble quest the first time I played it. That s*** was creepy!

Yeah. Funny guy initially and I like his accent, but totally bonkers once you get all the way down in his studio tongue.gif

QUOTE(Renee @ Jan 27 2025, 06:12 PM) *

I really gotta try Vampire. evillol.gif you folks are making me want to at least get it from GoG (if it's on GoG).

Yeah, you should try it. But as always I gotta recommend not to play as a Malkavian or Nosferatu on your first playthrough. They are much better suited for a second and third time around.

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post Jan 27 2025, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 27 2025, 11:16 AM) *

QUOTE(Renee @ Jan 27 2025, 06:12 PM) *

I really gotta try Vampire. evillol.gif you folks are making me want to at least get it from GoG (if it's on GoG).

Yeah, you should try it. But as always I gotta recommend not to play as a Malkavian or Nosferatu on your first playthrough. They are much better suited for a second and third time around.

I second that. My first character was a Ventrue (think corpo vampires, very focused on social skills), followed by a Tremere (blood mages).

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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 27 2025, 06:33 PM) *

My first character was a Ventrue (think corpo vampires, very focused on social skills), followed by a Tremere (blood mages).

Both good choices for a first playthrough, although being Ventrue might cause some issues with the warrens. How did Khajiit tackle that? My first was a Gangrel, btw.


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post Jan 27 2025, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(mirocu @ Jan 27 2025, 11:37 AM) *

QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Jan 27 2025, 06:33 PM) *

My first character was a Ventrue (think corpo vampires, very focused on social skills), followed by a Tremere (blood mages).

Both good choices for a first playthrough, although being Ventrue might cause some issues with the warrens. How did Khajiit tackle that? My first was a Gangrel, btw.

I honestly don’t remember, lol. Probably blood bags.


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Ah, so the character we can play is sort of fixed by class? Can we be either sex?


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The warrens is annoyingly long, but honestly on subsequent plays it didn't feel as long. But I do hate the fight with Andrei because he keeps spawning those monsters that get in the way. Second fight is much easier since it's mano a mano.

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Ah, so the character we can play is sort of fixed by class? Can we be either sex?

You can be male or female and yes; unless you play with lets say the Camarilla Edition mod, the class is fixed for the clan (or race) that you choose.

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post Jan 27 2025, 07:00 PM
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I think one thing that helped Bloodlines click for me was that it felt (to me anyway) a bit like a TES game. I really appreciated being able to pick from different Clans and have the experience be very different from each other.


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Yeah, that is one good thing about the game for sure. Tremere is quite different from Malk but both clans are great imo.


Tidbit: regarding the drug house you go to for Mercurio. I never knew you could just talk to the guy guarding the fence. I just naturally assumed everyone was hostile on sight so I've only ever snuck through and stealth killed everyone laugh.gif


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