Time for me to correct you, sorry.

One joint of marijuana will contain no more than 4 times the amount of tar in a cigerette.

Cigerettes Contain 599 addictives, much more than marijuana

Marijuana is a natural drug. When you breathe in a cigerette you get glue extract, gasoline, kerosene...

Cigerettes have been know to cause skin cancer, lung cancer, heart disease, gum disease, tumors and blood clots, marijuana does not cause any of those.

As far as your health goes, marijuana is practically harmless, but it does turn you into a loser. If you take it every day you short term memory will be compassion, you can't concentrate, everything will seem mundane and boring and you'll be easily aggitated,

To Channler, Marijuana is not physically addictive. No marijuana user will do anything to get their fix, nor will they have a fix. Actually, statistically nicotine is the most addictive substance, followed by heroine.

Are you serious? Nicotine beats heroine?

I guess it just wouldn't seem that way because cigarettes don't give you any kind of high.

This post has been edited by Dantrag: Jul 27 2005, 11:21 PM

Well if you think about it, when someone is taking heroine, they;re intaking a lot more heroine than when someone has a cigerette. There's so little nicotine its funny they even think of nictone as a primary ingrediant. They probabky only do because it's one of the only natural things in there. A single drop of nicotine can kill you, when you breathe in nicotine your breathing in real poison, just a tiny amount.

Think of it as sniffing arsen three times a day or so for thirty years. Every single part of your body that took in arsen molecules is going to get cancer, or clotted, or a tumor, or a disease. Your nose, your lungs, your heart, your brain, your bones... they're all getting an unnoticable amount of arsen that your breathing in over a long period time. That's what smoking is.

Well Doomed these guys must have been making cigs that look like weed cause I sure noticed them goin kinda crazy when there friend couldnt get the stuff

You said earlier they couldn't get the "crack" though, didn't you? Crack is like the hardest drug on the market, obvious someone will flipm out if they can't get crack, that's what crackheads are, people constantly flipping out trying to get their fix. Where does weed get involved in this?

I did!?! OMG I'm glad I dont do drugs cause Im not even getting everything straight with a clear head o_O

Hmm yes nicotene is up there with heroine as far as addiction, that is why smoking is such a hard habit to quit.

nicotene bonds with certain chemoreceptos in your brain and slowly changes their shape, so eventually they are receptive to nicotine and not to the chemical it is supposed to bind with (can't think of the name of it) so when you stop taking nicotine well those chemoreceptors won't be activating and the neurons won't fire that certain emotion, (i want t say dopamine O.o but I may be wrong) and if you aren't happy and hooked on cigs, then you want to smoke more cigs to get the feeling of slight euphoria once again.

No, thats pratically any drug addict. The body and mind devolp a dependance on the drug over time. The more addictive, the less time it takes for this bond to devolp. The quick it devolps and the longer one uses the drug, the harder it is to break the bond.

Well hgere's an analogy.

The chemicals in your brain have receptors built to amtch the chemicals like a puzzle piece. drugs release chemicals in your brain very similar to the natural ones to fool your brain into thinking you're taking in natrual chemicals. Here's the funny thing, your body actually produced natural THC, the addictive in Marijuana. becuase it does, the receptors are built exactly for THC, and therefore over time there is not change made to your body's receptors, that's why marijuana is not physically addictive, just mentally addictive.

well phrased, but some like nicotene change the shape of the chemoreceptors.

anywho's addressing the issue of cannibis, i think it should be legalised for many reasons already stated though primarily for medical reasons. Cannibis is beneficial in other ways apart from smoking it O.o which is a common misconception among some people, who apparently think that cannibis for medical purposes means they give it to their patients to smoke, this is however not the case. there are many chemicals in marijuana plants that have been isolted and found to be beneficial for some reason or another (there's an article called The Cannibis conundrum that goes more into detail about this.) and have been extracted to make pills out of them. however since marijuana is illegal the substances extracted from teh marijuana plants are also illegal -.-

Well, you implied that people that smoke dope turn violent when they don't have any, I think that's a pretty big misconception.

There's several important differences between the consumation of hard drugs such as heroin, crack etc and 'soft' drugs, such as cannabis products. The first big difference is the 'users': crack and heroin are consumed by people that have no perspective, that are 'at the bottom'. They don't usually have a job and thus no source of income, and sometimes turn to crime in order to get their fix. They do that because there is a physical addiction that is more or less driving them nuts when they don't get theirs. Dope is a different thing. As others have explained, it is not physically addictive, but mentally. As a result, the effects of withdrawal are not quite as severe, and thus the pressure to "get more" is lower by orders of magnitude.

Another important difference is the price. While hard drugs are hard to come by and often incredibly expensive, 'soft drugs' are rather cheap. What a junkie spends on his daily fix will last a dopehat for weeks. Why is the price lower? Because cannabis products are much more accepted and used by a much larger portion of the population - all ages, all professions.

It is also true that cannabis can not only be smoked, but also eaten. AFAIK, this is not the prefered method though as results are less predictable and take longer. Still, if you think about whether or not to allow it for medical purposes, that is an important factor.

As you may have figured by now, I'm a proponent of the legalization of cannabis products. I think they are a good alternative to alcohol, which has inredibly damaging effects to the brain and liver. However, a few things need to be made absolutely clear:

NO kind of drug should be accessible to minors. This includes alcohol, cigarettes and cannabis products. Every drug has the potential of abuse. No drug is harmless. That is why -no matter what kind of drug is used- it should only be used responsibly, in small quantities. That is true for cananbis, alcohol and tobacco as well as other drugs such as cofffein. Some drugs cannot be controlled, and should not be touched at all. Those are illegal for a good reason. This includes heroin, crack and cocaine.

Hmm, though all my life I have been told to stay away from drugs, I feel that if sold in government approved stores, in small dosses and if bylaws are added, weed would be fine. If you could only buy enough weed to make you high, could only buy it twice to three times a week and you couldn't smoke it in certain areas of the city, I personally would feel pretty safe. Personally, alchoholics scare me a lot more then junkies, and if they weren't smoking any where near me, I wouldn't be scared of junkies at all. Keep in mind I have never and will never do drugs in my life.

Wise words.. and totally true..

Its been proven that controlled use of alcohol, 1 glass of red wine a night, has very positive affects on the brain and many docters recomend it..

But, thats not in excess..

Cannabis might not be bad for you, but I bet if you smoke it too much youd see some bad results, just like smoking to much, just like drinking too much, JUST LIKE EATING TO MUCH

Everything thing is bad if not controlled

Heart too I think...

I believe the red wine has more to do with the contents of the grapes than the actual alcohol itself. Since they recommend red grape juice for minors, since i has similar benefits as red wine.

i'm a smoker, so i can tell u advantages and disadvantages.
first off: $5 a week for cigarettes is quite a bit if u do the math (about $300 every year). some smoke way more than that. other drugs are more expensive. advice to the parliament: make drugs legal for a high price in farmacies and give controlled doses for anything white, gradualy replacing it with methadone. they'll quit.
second to that: health issue---i don't give a damn about my body, but i hate the fealing of needing a smoke in order to think streight.
last but not least: PEOPLE, TRY ALCOHOL if u will, but drink it FOR THE TASTE, as i have yet to hear anyone tell me it does any good for your mood. (talked to addicts about this)

No I don't think that cannabis should be legalised, no I don't think any "drug" (ie narcotics) should be legalised beacause all recreational drugs have purely negative societal effects. They no do good and they do lots of bad, hence they shouldn't be allowed to proliferate. It's the only logical thing to do. The whole thing about civil liberties is nosense, if anything by elimating narcotics who are liberating people from enslavement to chemicals, hence you are actually setting them free.

Cannabis caused schizsophenia and I suppose it probably causes many of the same problems as tabacco to the respiritory system.

Both tobbaco and alcohol should in an ideal world be illiegal. Neither of them contribute anything to society of a positive nature, tobacco makes people stink, kills them in droves from heart disease, lung cancer, throat cancer and a whole range of other conditions, plus due to passive smoking impose those effects on others. Alcohol is worse, not only does it cause liver disease, but also causes huge amounts of violance and destruction. The case for banning all narcotic substances is great, the only reason that they can't do it is that these substances are so widespread and hold such a wide segmant of the population in various levels of slavery. The effects of allowing other narcotics to join them in taking over society would be utterly undersirable.

So I say, keep drugs banned and make no concessions to drug-slaves and their libertarian allies that campaign for their legalisation, and prepare from the day that mankind can rise up and throw off the chains of alcohol and alcohol once and for all. Eternal war on all Narcotics!!!!!

Illegalization is not the cure to a drug problem. It's been proven time and time again that if you want to fight something negative, you don't tell a bunch of men in guns to arrest anyone who uses it or partakes in it. This is how you can fight your war on drugs: don't use them, don't let them in your house, pressure your friends and family off of them. That's it. Illeglization wouldn't fix any problem.

Marijuana does more good than bad. It's medical uses go beyond just reducing glocoma behind the eyes to slowing the growth of brain tumors and countering the side-effects of chemotherapy. Because a small percent of the population abuses its use, we should not allow these people that get something really good from its use to have it? Do you have any idea how difficult it is to put yourself in a hallucinogenic state using marijuana? Even more so to go into a schizofrenic state.

My stance on Marijuana is the exact same on abortion (a tie in to the last parliment). I don't use it, I don't practice with it, and every other human being has the same choice. If (or as long as it is) illegal there will still be hundreds of people who don't get the help they need, or have to commit a crime to get the help they need. It's not fair to those people.

It's proved that there's a link between cannabis and schitzophenia. The whole stuff about it having positive effects that outweigh the bad (except maybe in a few medicinal situations) is simply propoganda by libertariens and their junkie allies, if tobacco isn't good for you, how much better can cannabis, proven to cause schitsophenia do. People don't need cannabis to stay alive hence their is no justification for tolorating widespread cannabis use.

You should never make laws around the criminals that break them, the purpose of legislation is not to elimate the crime completely (which is impossable) but to control the offending behavior. Thus the fact that smoking such illiegal drugs is not normal practice in the same way as smoking and alcohol in mainstream 'lawabiding' society mean that the legislation has worked. Remember, once you allow any narcotic free rein in your society, not only will you reap the negative effects, but also do not have the freedom to elimate them, look at tobacco and alcohol for proof. I very much approve of treatment of drug users, that way you reduce the base and also think that action to destroy the production facilities of such drugs is also to be welcomed.

Remember all Narcotics (even alcohol) enslave those societies that use them, if things are bad enough with the current levels of junkies and drug dealers, think how much worse things will be when the almost the whole population uses drugs, advertisments for drug brands are placed on TV and so on and the 'drug dealers' are respectable highstreet shopkeepers. Those who campaign for drug legalisation are frankly idiots who fail to learn from the damage that already legalised drugs have done, how much more will be done if even more and possibly more powerful drugs are added to the mix. Sure 'crime' will be lower but that's some way to get rid of crime, get rid of the laws that make them. Seriously giving ground to crime is surrender and cowardice.

People can function quite happily without narcotics, so what need do we have for them. But 'Narcotics' don't want to be eliminated, therefore it utilised those it has already enslaved to fight the effort to undermine those that have the courage to oppose them and attempting to take over large swathes of society (starting with those already excluded such as various shades of criminals) in order to secure the destruction of their enemies. If this sounds a bit wierd, remember that each narcotic constitute a powerful entity that by 'using' the minds of those they already control, effectively conspire to secure power and secure more slaves. Illiegal narcotics have marked the societies that banned them as enemies, and conspire through crime and isolating their slaves from other influences to strengthen their hold over them. The aim ultimately is to convince their enemies that they have failed and thus achieve surrender/legalisation.