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ShogunSniper
post Sep 14 2005, 09:29 PM
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Ok, so roughly 95% of all games have a final boss, and any self respecting RPG has a final boss. The only TES game I have played is MW and it had Dagoth Ur, Bloodmoon had Hircine, and Tribunal had Almalexia.

So the point I am trying to make here is: has there been any news on a final boss in OB? If not then this is the thread to discuss ideas for final bosses for OB.

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post Sep 14 2005, 10:02 PM
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As far as I know nothing has been said, but I'm thinkin' it'll probaly be some daedra.


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post Sep 14 2005, 10:43 PM
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"in the realm of takhasis godess of evil raistlin strives ever closer to her powerfull presense,with spells running through his mind that can alter time and level cities can he defeat her?No only if he brings her to the plane of mortals......who will be defeated".

i dont see how you could defeat the boss in a game like this as any but a wizard of great power unless whoever your are is blessed and everything thing he carries is an objuect of great power and legend.

Like the first dragonlances
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post Sep 15 2005, 02:35 AM
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Dagoth Ur, Hircine, and Amalexia weren't final bosses. Final bosses are for games, RPG or not, that force you to go in a single direction.

Though, I do have a feeling that at some point or another you'll be fighting the heir. The story to Oblivion seems way too basic-- The Emperor dies, bad stuff happens, so you find his heir- but let's say that the Heir is an idiot and one way or another you're tasked with killing him and you become the new Emperor.

Remember, Bethesda simply said that you were not the heir. They never went beyond that to imply that you weren't the new ruler. And knowing Bethesda, they're bound to put our character on the spotlight somehow.
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post Sep 15 2005, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE(Daikirai @ Sep 14 2005, 10:35 PM)
Dagoth Ur, Hircine, and Amalexia weren't final bosses. Final bosses are for games, RPG or not, that force you to go in a single direction.
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i know that, i just used the term 'final boss' to keep things simple.


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post Sep 15 2005, 03:09 AM
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Iif they made me the emperor there would be chaos.so i hope they let you.
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post Sep 15 2005, 04:18 AM
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They can't make you the emperor, they'd have to be able to write the name of the new ruler into the time-line. Notice in every game you always play an unknown hero, or a hero who's name is replaced by a title.


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post Sep 15 2005, 03:35 PM
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Possibly a daedric prince will be the final one (maybe even depening on which factions you sided with on the main quest). Though most likely they will give us a good suprsise.
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post Sep 15 2005, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Sep 15 2005, 04:18 AM)
They can't make you the emperor, they'd have to be able to write the name of the new ruler into the time-line.  Notice in every game you always play an unknown hero, or a hero who's name is replaced by a title.
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Notice that in the time line alligned with Morrowind, they never refer to the nevarine as "The Khajiit Thief, S'Murkel" or "The Dunmer Mage, Gindrellis Telvanni". They refer to him as "A child, born on an uncertain day to uncertain parents, ignorant of the role he was to play in that nations history". How much harder could it be to do that for an Emperor? "An unknown prisoner tasked with finding the Emperor's lost heir, and failed, but ended up taking the seat on the throne of Tamriel." It's true that you always have a title, but in this game it could easily be "Emperor", "Prisoner", or even "Daedraslayer".

Like the water dragon goddess person from Jade Empire said: "Names only exist so that people can point and say "that is mine"." They don't matter, especially in the TES series.

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post Sep 16 2005, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(Daikirai @ Sep 15 2005, 05:42 PM)
Like the water dragon goddess person from Jade Empire said: "Names only exist so that people can point and say "that is mine"." They don't matter, especially in the TES series.
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i love that game.

and i seriously hope that Bethesda gives us a REALLY good plot twist somewhere along the way. going to oblivion and fighting a daedric prince in a "final battle to the death" would be a bit cliche'd. i'm hoping for either a massive final battle between people and daedra with you caught ight in the midst of it. or.... damn, forgot what i was going to say....


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post Sep 16 2005, 02:14 AM
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If you've played Fable for the Xbox, you probably remember how on the last level they took you through a series of areas you'd already visited, but during a huge battle. They should do that; a Lord of the Rings scale battle would be perfect for Oblivion.
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post Sep 16 2005, 04:32 AM
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Well we know in the end you close the gates to Oblivion. I would really be disappointed if the plot twist involved the heir being evil. It's overdone.


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post Sep 19 2005, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Daikirai @ Sep 15 2005, 06:14 PM)
If you've played Fable for the Xbox, you probably remember how on the last level they took you through a series of areas you'd already visited, but during a huge battle. They should do that; a Lord of the Rings scale battle would be perfect for Oblivion.
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I agree with that. But the battle in Fable in my opinion was terrible, it seemed less like a battle and more like a bunch of monsters teleporting around.
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post Sep 19 2005, 11:39 PM
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Hey guys, I figured out who the final boss is.

It's Jygallag, a massive emperor mudcrab with an amry of cliffracers.


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QUOTE(Intestinal Chaos @ Sep 19 2005, 05:25 PM)
I agree with that. But the battle in Fable in my opinion was terrible, it seemed less like a battle and more like a bunch of monsters teleporting around.
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Heck yea, I just beat it on PC, I just trained all the mosters from zone to zone, didn't even bother killing them, then the last boss took me like 4 hits with magic arrow to beat. I seriously hope I have one heck of a challenge with oblivions boss.


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post Sep 20 2005, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Sep 19 2005, 05:39 PM)
Hey guys, I figured out who the final boss is.

It's Jygallag, a massive emperor mudcrab with an amry of cliffracers.
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ROFL I would not kill him but make him a palace because he would be the best boss ever! tongue.gif granted I do still suck with the morrowind construction set....


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post Sep 21 2005, 02:19 AM
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How about this crazy twist: You are the Emperor and you died in the beginning of the game. You were dead the whole time. And only the heir can see you. smile.gif
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post Sep 21 2005, 04:13 AM
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QUOTE(Daikirai @ Sep 15 2005, 04:42 PM)
Notice that in the time line alligned with Morrowind, they never refer to the nevarine as "The Khajiit Thief, S'Murkel" or "The Dunmer Mage, Gindrellis Telvanni". They refer to him as "A child, born on an uncertain day to uncertain parents, ignorant of the role he was to play in that nations history". How much harder could it be to do that for an Emperor? "An unknown prisoner tasked with finding the Emperor's lost heir, and failed, but ended up taking the seat on the throne of Tamriel." It's true that you always have a title, but in this game it could easily be "Emperor", "Prisoner", or even "Daedraslayer".

Like the water dragon goddess person from Jade Empire said: "Names only exist so that people can point and say "that is mine"." They don't matter, especially in the TES series.
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Heroes are like fires, they bright brightly for a time, then are gone, leaving little behind.

Emperors are well documented, and long lasting, they stay in the public eye far longer.

Thus making the PC the emperor would, well, not work very well. Besides, I doubt a theif would want to be emperor. Or something like that. Hero, well, circumstances can coarce them into a short term role such as that. Emperor, no.

There are better qualified people out there for the Job.


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post Sep 21 2005, 07:43 AM
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In the timeline they refer very little to the heroes. Remember when in daggerfall you chose between 6 different endings? The timeline had to invent a "warp of the west" which described how the hero's final decision was unknown, but somehow the positive ending for each group came to be. Now imagine that... with an Emperor. Everyone's character is different, with different personalities effecting their decisions.

Like Aki said, it can be done with a nameless hero, not with an Emperor. Also, I highly doubt the heir will betray you. That's an incredibly dumb twist. A much better twist would be... if Jygallag ended up being the main villain.


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post Sep 21 2005, 02:39 PM
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