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> Argonians Look Weird, really
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post Oct 16 2005, 01:24 AM
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looks alright to me, but i did like the old onces better.


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post Oct 16 2005, 04:38 AM
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They're using face software meant for humans, not lizard people. They did the best they could.


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post Oct 16 2005, 05:05 AM
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QUOTE(Raziel @ Oct 15 2005, 08:31 PM)

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post Oct 16 2005, 05:27 AM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Oct 15 2005, 11:38 PM)
They're using face software meant for humans, not lizard people.  They did the best they could.
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Yah but since they created the software, they should have accomodated it for argonians and khajit to. I can understand them wanting to keep models and scale and what not the same, but using the same program for the humans and lizards, and khajit is just being plain lazy. that is a really crappy looking argonian O.o


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post Oct 16 2005, 05:58 AM
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What I'm saying is that they're using third-party softward for the faces, just like they're using speed-tree and havoc, They had to revamp the software for argonians and khajiit but it was still based on the original software for humans. That argonian is progress.


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post Oct 16 2005, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(Megil Tel-Zeke @ Oct 16 2005, 12:27 AM)
Yah but since they created the software, they should have accomodated it for argonians and khajit to.  I can understand them wanting to keep models and scale and what not the same, but using the same program for the humans and lizards, and khajit is just being plain lazy.  that is a really crappy looking argonian O.o
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Um, Beth didn't create the FaceGen software, I don't think. They were using it, but they didn't create it. I think they had to alter the FaceGen to, er, support the Beast Races--which FaceGen originally didn't have. (FaceGen was human/elf only) kvleft.gif

FaceGen is just another different software/product, and was around before Beth used it in this game. (Kind of like Poser/Daz 3D/Bryce/Etc, which I think Oblivion should have used [(Some examples of my fav Poser bodies and faces)Poser faces, bodies/Daz 3D] instead).

From the faces of the Beast Races I've seen, I think Beth is doing a decent job. It could have been worse--it could have been cartoony-stretched human faces colored red/green. kvright.gif
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post Oct 17 2005, 02:21 AM
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Exactly, Mergirl, exactly what I was saying. You may have misread my post though since it seems like you were contradicting me.


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post Oct 18 2005, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(MerGirl @ Oct 12 2005, 02:32 AM)
My sister and I looked at this picture several times, and we think it doesn't look too bad. Just needs horns and finned-ears (like in Morrowind) and maybe slightly bigger eyes, then he would look better.  cool.gif

Oh, I heard that the Argonian's eyes were closed in that screenshot (he blinked or something), so I'm curious as to what his eyes look like when they're open.  smile.gif

EDIT: Speaking of beast races, has there been a (legal) clear, high-res screeshot of a Khajiit yet?
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post Oct 18 2005, 07:59 PM
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sweet saint patrick patrent saint of ireland!!!!!! hhajiits look weird
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post Oct 18 2005, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(Rane @ Oct 16 2005, 01:18 PM)
News that just got in.

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=175036
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In the past couple days, an unfinished build of Oblivion was leaked to a Russian gaming site. You may have seen screenshots and information about this build online. The site in question was not authorized in any way to post the information that it did. The build in question was not in any way intended to be used for the purposes of demoing the game.

The screenshots that got posted clearly show that the game was not properly configured by whoever was playing. The ini file alone contains over 300 settings that can be used to customize the visuals and performance of the game, and we tweak and test and change these settings daily. Because the build they are using was not one that we locked away for the specific purposes of demonstration, the likelyhood that any number of those options are incorrectly configured is very high. This can result in any manner of aberrant behavior from the game including improper visuals and reduced performance.

The upshot is that we feel the quality of the screenshots released is very far from the final game. This combined with the fact that the they are completely unauthorized by anyone representing Bethesda to publish screenshots or info means that we have to shut down threads relating to this leak.

Hopefully soon, as we get closer to release, you will see legit sites posting previews based on actual preview builds of the final game.


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This is good news since it means that more than likely the settings were messed up so the beast races are not at their most polished state. Though i don't play beast races this is much of a relive because now we do not have to look at stretched textures, that looks like paint splattered onto a canvas.


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post Oct 18 2005, 11:12 PM
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Khajiits look great. I love them.


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post Oct 19 2005, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Oct 18 2005, 06:12 PM)
Khajiits look great.  I love them.
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Me too.

I wanna pet one.


But, they'd scratch me, or hit me with weapons and spells.... tongue.gif


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post Oct 20 2005, 08:29 PM
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Noo...they´re sweet..they´ll just purr at you and talk to you in the funny khajiiti way..


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post Oct 20 2005, 10:22 PM
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If it were the opposite sex.... otherwise it probably would scratch your eyes out.


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post Oct 21 2005, 02:00 AM
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I thought the argonian looked fine, better than in the previous game in my opinion, I really didn't like the way they looked in Morrowind.


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post Oct 22 2005, 01:38 AM
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The base model looked awsome in Morrowind imo. The animation, on the other hand, was horrid.


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post Jan 27 2006, 01:50 PM
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argonians look like crap compared to morrowind, now they just look like trandoshans from starwars...how lame
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post Jan 27 2006, 03:26 PM
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Forgive me for sounding pompous - but why on earth did Beth decide to use a facegen application that only catered to a percentage of the races. Surely they must have realised the beast races would yet again be disgraced!

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post Jan 28 2006, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(chips @ Oct 10 2005, 01:38 PM)
screenshotsthe new argonians look really weird their faces are so....... dogish. what do u think. i tried to get link but dont know how to kvright.gif
edit: ohh wait i did just go to updated xbox screens and look at the argonians.
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post Jan 28 2006, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(Darkwing @ Jan 27 2006, 06:26 AM)
Forgive me for sounding pompous - but why on earth did Beth decide to use a facegen application that only catered to a percentage of the races. Surely they must have realised the beast races would yet again be disgraced!
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