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Sir Radont |
Feb 26 2006, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Red @ Feb 26 2006, 08:20 AM) Ok, a friend of mine keeps bugging me about "Will my computer work? Will my computer work? Will my computer work?" and I'm not to knowledgable on the set-up he has (though I think it should work). If you guys could help me out, thanks a lot. He's got a AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 Clawhammer Processor, a ATI X1900 video card and 2 gigs of RAM. Now, I think he can probably run it, but I, as previously stated, havn't really studied this set-up before. Anyone able to help? He can run it easily with that setup.
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Red |
Feb 26 2006, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(Sir Radont @ Feb 26 2006, 01:04 PM) He can run it easily with that setup. Thats what I thought since it was the Gametesters same setup, but he's at the point where I was about a week ago. Fanatical. He checks the TES website 900 times a day, 100 more than me. 
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nguyenvantiendat |
Feb 27 2006, 10:29 AM
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I've got the following : - CPU Pentium 4 2.26GHz - DDR 1Gb ( 512 x 2 ) - VGA geforce 6600 128Mb
I've read System Requirements . But I wonder if my PC can run smoothly at low settings . Really I don't have enough money for any Upgrade . Thank you !
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Marxist ßastard |
Feb 27 2006, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE Really I don't have enough money for any Upgrade . Why are you posting in an upgrade thread?
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Rapp0ng |
Feb 27 2006, 03:41 PM
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Hello, I am new to this forum! I will begin with boasting! AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 1024MB RAM ATI Radeon x1900 XTX 200GB Hard Drive SB Audigy SE My new computer! I am so happy so don't slag it off! It is a drastic step for me compared to my previous computer which is: Intel Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz 1024 RAM ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb 160GB Hard Drive (Forget which sound card I have) There are many other system specifications that are considerably improved I just decided to put in the parts that stand out really! I apologize if I offend anybody with this blatant boasting but im well chuffed Inciting Jealousy within the community was the intention  Oh and btw Red, I think your friend well knows that his computer will work the game! Pretending to be naive is another form of boasting, I know, I do it myself 
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Navydragon |
Feb 28 2006, 01:21 PM
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Hello all, I need some advice here:
Current rig:
CPU- 3.0 GHZ Intel Ram- 1 GB Video- NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 (256 mb)
I'm swooning over this game and want to be able to play at full video, so am willing to splurge on a new video card, but I keep hearing about how the AGP 8x simply doesn't compare to the PCI-Express. Which would indicate that I need a new motherboard too. But since they don't make motherboards with 478 socket cpu and PCI-E combined, then I'd have to upgrade my CPU and RAM too, which according to system recomendations, doesn't need to be upgraded.
So, basically I'm asking you:
If I just upgrade my video card to something like the Xfx Geforce 7800GS 256MB DDR3 Agp Extreme Edition, would it be comperable to if I had upgraded to the new motherboard and got a new 3.0 ghz CPU with 775 sockets, effectively spending much more money and throwing away my perfectly good 3.0 GHZ 478 socket chip and RAM. Or is the power of a 775 socket cpu, and a PCI-E so much better than a 478 socket and AGP 8x, that I should spend the bucks to completely revamp mysystem?
Any advice is appreciated!
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Rapp0ng |
Feb 28 2006, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(Navydragon @ Feb 28 2006, 12:21 PM) Hello all, I need some advice here: Current rig: CPU- 3.0 GHZ Intel Ram- 1 GB Video- NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 (256 mb) I'm swooning over this game and want to be able to play at full video, so am willing to splurge on a new video card, but I keep hearing about how the AGP 8x simply doesn't compare to the PCI-Express. Which would indicate that I need a new motherboard too. But since they don't make motherboards with 478 socket cpu and PCI-E combined, then I'd have to upgrade my CPU and RAM too, which according to system recomendations, doesn't need to be upgraded. So, basically I'm asking you: If I just upgrade my video card to something like the Xfx Geforce 7800GS 256MB DDR3 Agp Extreme Edition, would it be comperable to if I had upgraded to the new motherboard and got a new 3.0 ghz CPU with 775 sockets, effectively spending much more money and throwing away my perfectly good 3.0 GHZ 478 socket chip and RAM. Or is the power of a 775 socket cpu, and a PCI-E so much better than a 478 socket and AGP 8x, that I should spend the bucks to completely revamp mysystem? Any advice is appreciated! I don't want to give out any bad advice so I suggest you thoroughly search for reviews and such about preferable socket types etc. But, in my opinion, if you were to get a new pc you should consider those 939 sockets and the AMD processors because I hear they get alot of praise. The graphics card you are getting is a beast. Even if it is an AGP, it is just a tad slower than its PCI-e counterpart and I don't think you would notice that much of a difference.
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sjvan0 |
Feb 28 2006, 02:45 PM
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My current specs are:
P4 2.26 ghz OCed to 2.6 ghz 512 (2X256) MB DDR PC2100 Geforce 4 MX440 64MB
As you can see, I'm in a dire need of a new graphics card, but I was wondering if I should get a 6800 of some form (was thinking a vanilla or possibly a GS, AGP, obviously) as a stop-gap until I have enough money to get the parts needed to build a new PC, or if I should just skip the graphics card and go straight to a new PC. Keep in mind that I'm currently 16 and won't get a job until the summer/christmas holidays that last roughly 6 weeks, so there's a chance that the 7800s will come into my price range.
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ShotFromBehind |
Feb 28 2006, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(sjvan0 @ Feb 28 2006, 08:45 AM) My current specs are: P4 2.26 ghz OCed to 2.6 ghz 512 (2X256) MB DDR PC2100 Geforce 4 MX440 64MB As you can see, I'm in a dire need of a new graphics card, but I was wondering if I should get a 6800 of some form (was thinking a vanilla or possibly a GS, AGP, obviously) as a stop-gap until I have enough money to get the parts needed to build a new PC, or if I should just skip the graphics card and go straight to a new PC. Keep in mind that I'm currently 16 and won't get a job until the summer/christmas holidays that last roughly 6 weeks, so there's a chance that the 7800s will come into my price range. Honestly I would wait considering you need more/better of everything you have to get the performance I think you are seeking. I would suggest at least meeting the recommended specs. This post has been edited by ShotFromBehind: Feb 28 2006, 02:51 PM
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sjvan0 |
Feb 28 2006, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(ShotFromBehind @ Feb 28 2006, 11:50 PM) Honestly I would wait considering you need more/better of everything you have to get the performance I think you are seeking. I would suggest at least meeting the recommended specs. I don't really need Oblivion to look great, I can just turn stuff down until it rus at an acceptable frame-rate (I play HL2 on this PC for christ's sake! Plus, two of my favourite games are Daggerfall and Fallout, so graphics don't particularly matter), but maybe you're right. A current moderately high-end PC should be a lot cheaper at the end of the year, so I might be able to get a half-decent PC, depending on how much money I end up making. This post has been edited by sjvan0: Feb 28 2006, 03:03 PM
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Rapp0ng |
Feb 28 2006, 03:05 PM
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Maybe you should get an Xbox 360? You can play the game at all its glory for the price of a graphics card! 
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sjvan0 |
Feb 28 2006, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(Rapp0ng @ Mar 1 2006, 12:05 AM) Maybe you should get an Xbox 360? You can play the game at all its glory for the price of a graphics card!  1. I already pre-ordered the PC version 2. When the 360 is released here, it will cost $650 AUS, the average price of a 6800 GS AGP is $400 AUS 3. If I get a 360, I won't be able to get user-made mods, plus we don't have broadband, which means no live service to get patches from. Also, considering that Live is half the 360, it kind of makes the 360 not seem worth it at all. This post has been edited by sjvan0: Feb 28 2006, 03:10 PM
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Pisces |
Mar 4 2006, 03:10 AM
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My computer: AMD athlon XP 1700+ processor 256MB ram CD-RW nVidia TNT2 M65 with 32 SDRAM So you think it can run oblivion?  Just kidding, even if it had a DVD drive, it can bearly run MW. I know nothing about computers so building my own isn't an option but considering this: AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ 1GB DDR 400 RAM (Dual Channel) 2x 120GB Serial ATA HDD (RAID) Nvidia 6600 PCI-X Graphics Card Samsung DVD +/- RW 16x, Dual Layer 4x How well could it run oblivion?
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ThePerson98 |
Mar 4 2006, 05:43 AM
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QUOTE(Pisces @ Mar 3 2006, 08:10 PM) .I know nothing about computers so building my own isn't an option but considering this: AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ 1GB DDR 400 RAM (Dual Channel) 2x 120GB Serial ATA HDD (RAID) Nvidia 6600 PCI-X Graphics Card Samsung DVD +/- RW 16x, Dual Layer 4x How well could it run oblivion? Maybe try getting a better video card, just for more eye candy, But yes, the system you listed should run it great. If you can bump it up to a 6800 GS (approx 200 USD, seen it rebated to 150 USD. Just looked it up, still rebated down low. 154 dollars Ive read reviews on the 6800 GS and almost bought one, except the fact that I would lock myself on AGP, and unbalance my system. If you pop that in there it will run very smooth. AMD Athlon XP 2500+ 9800 vanilla 256 MB 1.5 GB DDR Corsair valueRAM SOYO KT600 Antec TPII 430 watt 5.1 Logitech X-530 Yes. I know my compy isnt gonna run oblivion max graphics or anything all amazing.  Id like to see other people do better on 40 bucks a month. Sad part is my compy beats most other prebuilts that cost 1200. Sad. Anyway, Ive pulled off some tough things with this comp well. I had 3dmark05 running 800x600 with 2x AA, trilinear filting, at about 13 FPS. Which is darn good for this system. 1024x768 kills it though. Looks awesome (but slow) at 6x AA, 16x aniostrophic, 1280x1024. I have quite a bit of money, but any upgrades on my current system would greatly unbalance it. My brothers computer is unbalanced. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754 mobo (He couldnt afford 939 at the time) 6800 GT 512 MB Ultra RAM 2x SATA Hardrive RAID (Used to be an old 80 GB, the speed of my old slow backup hardrive) He isnt gonna run oblivion like he hopes for. The lack of RAM will slaughter his performance. Ive offered to let him borrow a 512 MB stick of my RAM so he doesnt lag bad, but he refuses cause he doesn't like the fact that he is getting my help. (I'll go on and on about compys, this is my last few sentences >_>) I was going to go to the oncoming socket AM2, for AMD, but it only supports DDR2 RAM, and PCI express. My goal, save a ton of money and get another compy. And get off of AGP for good. My brother tried to sell me his old Socket 754 motherboard for 80 dollars. If Im spending that much, Im gonna get 939.  I'm done This post has been edited by ThePerson98: Mar 4 2006, 05:48 AM
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Sir Radont |
Mar 4 2006, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Neela @ Mar 4 2006, 04:57 AM) What I also found out is that I may have made a small mistake when inserting the card. Apparently when hooking up the power cable to the card you shouldn't use the same one that is connected to the hard drive. I wish the card installation instructions mentioned this. So its possible that the card lacked enough power if the hard drive was in use at that moment too. So I changed to another power cable. I haven't had any problems so far after these changes *crosses fingers and knocks on wood* So hopefully that info might help any potential card upgraders out there. I was not aware of that, looks like I'll have to check my power cable. I'm not having any problems but I don't want my card to burn out right when I finally get Oblivion.
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Dex |
Mar 4 2006, 11:18 AM
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Hello! I've been lurking around this forum for a while, but I haven't really done much of any posting. Let me start by saying that this is a much nicer forum than the official Bethesda TES forum. You can't post in or start a hardware thread on that forum without starting a PC vs. Xbox 360 flame war between all of the kids on the official forum. Really frustrating. Anyway, here's my setup: Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ stock 2GB Corsair XMS Platinum RAM @ 2-3-3-6-1T eVGA GeForce 7800GT in SLI Misc. other specs I think I'm going to wait and see how the game runs on my 7800GT, and if I need more I'll add another 7800GT. They're running around $300 at Newegg.com right now. The reason I'm posting in this thread is to offer some information that I've only recently come across (which is a bit embarassing as I'm usually pretty on top of hardware specs) Anyone looking into buying new hardware for Oblivion might want to keep a few interesting points in mind (I'm sure some of these have been touched upon): - Oblivion will mostly be a shader-intensive app, so your video hardware is going to have more of an impact on performace than your CPU. If you have a single-core CPU that's at least 3GHz Intel or and AMD that's performace-rated at 3000 or higher you're in the clear. Bethesda has been downplaying advantages to dual-core CPUs, so I'm thinking that dual-core won't be a huge advantage (most current dual-core-equipped gamers are used to this already). - The ideal current GPU for running Oblivion is the ATI x1900XTX, and that's not just because of framerates. The nVidia 7800 series of GPUs is generally outperforming the ATI x1800 and below, but they have an important limitation. While the nVidia 6800 and 7800/7900 GPUs are shader model 3.0 compliant (which is a VERY good thing for running Oblivion), the GPU resources that execute FP16 (16-bit floating point) blending operations and the resouces that handle AA (anti-aliasing: removal of jaggy edges in hardware) are shared. That means that if Oblivion exclusively uses FP16 for HDR (high dynamic range lighting: very pretty), current nVidia cards will not be able to do HDR and AA at the same time. If Oblivion is capable of doing integer HDR, then nVidia users will get to use HDR and AA at the same time with a performance hit. The pre-x1X00 ATI cards (the x850 and below) cannot use shader model 3.0 effects at all, and will probably not be able to use HDR lighting effects at all. I'm not sure if this isn't a moot point, however, because owners of x1X00 ATI cards (including the almighty x1900 cards) might not even have the horsepower to run both at decent framerates, but it's something to keep in mind anyway. I'm not just being a fanboy here - I looked into this because I'm locked into nVidia technology for now. nVidia hardware is getting some really nice framerates (better bang-for-the-buck as far as framerates go, in fact), but is seeing some feature limitations in the current iterations of their designs. That ATI x1900 is a really nice GPU, but SO expensive! - Having at least 1GB of RAM will be an advantage, as there have been a lot of complaints about load times between areas, which more RAM will help with. Anyway, I just wanted to chime in and share a few interesting bits of info that I've picked up recently. If anybody has hardware questions feel free to PM me. I'm not the be-all end-all for info (who is?), but I am a computer engineer and enough of a nerd to be able to answer most hardware questions and help with troubleshooting. This seems like a friendly community. I look forward to interacting with you folks more once the game is released.
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"Why think when you can......something......" Athlon X2 4200+ (dual core) @ stock 2GB Corsair XMS Platinum 2-3-3-6-1T GeForce 7800GT @ 470/1100
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Dex |
Mar 4 2006, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(sjvan0 @ Feb 28 2006, 08:45 AM) My current specs are: P4 2.26 ghz OCed to 2.6 ghz 512 (2X256) MB DDR PC2100 Geforce 4 MX440 64MB As you can see, I'm in a dire need of a new graphics card, but I was wondering if I should get a 6800 of some form (was thinking a vanilla or possibly a GS, AGP, obviously) as a stop-gap until I have enough money to get the parts needed to build a new PC, or if I should just skip the graphics card and go straight to a new PC. Keep in mind that I'm currently 16 and won't get a job until the summer/christmas holidays that last roughly 6 weeks, so there's a chance that the 7800s will come into my price range. It really depends on how long you want to wait. You're close enough to recommended specs that you could probably get away with a real video card (the Geforce 4 MX series is very underpowered...you need a 6800 or 7800 series card if you're going to stick with AGP) and more RAM (at least 1GB). However, that's going to run you upwards of $300, and it won't be re-usable in a new rig down the line. The other side of that is that your current video card isn't going to run Oblivion at a satisfactory level at all. So, you can spend the money now to run the game, or you can wait until you can buy a new PC to run the game. However, you're better off spending the $300 now to run the game than to rush into a purchase of a new PC that isn't going to be future-proof. If you're excited about playing Oblivion fairly soon I would go with a video and RAM upgrade. So, again, it depends on timeframe and what kind of money you will have to spend.
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"Why think when you can......something......" Athlon X2 4200+ (dual core) @ stock 2GB Corsair XMS Platinum 2-3-3-6-1T GeForce 7800GT @ 470/1100
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Dex |
Mar 4 2006, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Waker @ Mar 4 2006, 03:24 AM) My comp AMD Athlon XP 2500+ (2,9GHz) 1024MB DDR Ram nVidia GeForce 6800LE 128MB This should be enuff for playing Oblivion, aye? Atleast the displaydriver is recommended at the official Oblivion wep page, and my mate is kind of a wiz and he said i'll be runnin' smooth. But, what is your opinion? It looks like you'll be a-ok. Certainly don't spend any money on upgrades until you have the game installed. If you decide you're not satisfied with how it's running and you need more then re-evaluate at that time. Everyone has different opinions as to what is acceptable performance.
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"Why think when you can......something......" Athlon X2 4200+ (dual core) @ stock 2GB Corsair XMS Platinum 2-3-3-6-1T GeForce 7800GT @ 470/1100
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