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magicalhobo
post Mar 23 2006, 07:23 PM
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I heard from many different places that OB was supposed to be bigger than MW. It doesn't seem that way to me. The world seems smaller for some reason. Don't get me wrong I love the game. I was just wondering if anyone else feels this. It could be because I've played MW londger and therefore explored much more. I don't know. Just wondering how everyone else feels.


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post Mar 23 2006, 07:25 PM
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I agree with you that the world feels smaller I think it is Because the trees and lot's of hills that prevent you from going up them and make you stick to the road maybe when I get to a higher level with more skills it will be more accesible.
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post Mar 23 2006, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(magicalhobo @ Mar 23 2006, 01:23 PM)
I  heard from many different places that OB was supposed to be bigger than MW. It doesn't seem that way to me. The world seems smaller for some reason. Don't get me wrong I love the game. I was just wondering if anyone else feels this. It could be because I've played MW londger and therefore explored much more. I don't know. Just wondering how everyone else feels.
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Okay. The world seams smaller, because you could see further. You could see a couple miles ahead of you in some parts. So naturally, it feels smaller.

Edit: Not to mention, six square miles isnt too much of an upgrad. Its about a 3rd size larger.

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post Mar 23 2006, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Blitz @ Mar 23 2006, 01:25 PM)
I agree with you that the world feels smaller I think it is Because the trees and lot's of hills that prevent you from going up them and make you stick to the road maybe when I get to a higher level with more skills it will be more accesible.
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yeah it could be that. Also we haven't had that long to experiment with it. The dungeons are definately bigger and i'm thankful for that. I'm just saying this off first impressions. I could be wrong.


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post Mar 24 2006, 12:50 AM
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Its because of how fast you can run now ;p My level 4 Thief (who got turned into a vamp ;P) runs very fast and i can travel easily by foot

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post Mar 24 2006, 07:03 AM
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QUOTE(Andric @ Mar 23 2006, 08:27 PM)
Okay. The world seams smaller, because you could see further. You could see a couple miles ahead of you in some parts. So naturally, it feels smaller.

Edit: Not to mention, six square miles isnt too much of an upgrad. Its about a 3rd size larger.
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Not much of an uppgrade? Sounds way big for me.
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post Mar 24 2006, 04:56 PM
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i agree that the world feels smaller. I think it could be because of the speen in which you move. in morrowind when you were a level 1 your athletics were so low and ran so slow. i think with the faster movement the world seems smaller
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post Mar 25 2006, 03:08 AM
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Also with the addition of horses it may feel smaller smile.gif

I have a horse at the moment but it's dead slow tongue.gif yet it is a great upgrade for me as I'm a slow runner because of my heavy armor smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2006, 09:31 PM
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Well, if you do it my way ( walking, so that I can explore the area ), it feels titanic, compared to MW...but well, most people find it quite dull to walk the entire way....


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post Mar 25 2006, 09:37 PM
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I agree, stop using fasttravel and you get an idea how big it is.
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post Mar 27 2006, 12:37 PM
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Yep, they are right. Fast Travel makes it quite a bit smaller, but once you do some quests that are too far away to fast travel to, you realize how big it is. I had to do one quest that made me go on a 10 minute horse ride, and I had one fast horse, hehe. It's amazing how far you can truly see, and that, too, makes it seem smaller.
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post Mar 27 2006, 03:26 PM
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it's the horse that makes the world feel smaller that much imo. As living in a relatively small country... i just compare the worlds that way: You need one in-game day to pass from west to east end (or lets say 16 ours or something). If you take a car and drive from west to east end of austria (where i live) i think you'll need 8 or 9 ours. If you stop once in a while and explore the world, it grows, both digital and real smile.gif
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post Mar 27 2006, 07:53 PM
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i've never used fast travel. Can't stand it. I've used horses though. It might just be that. I dunno


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post Mar 27 2006, 11:33 PM
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I agree with all the comments regarding fast travel...if you use it, the world gets smaller quick. I think the other thing that gives the impression of a smaller world is the lack of variety in landscapes. In Morrowind, the rolling grassy hills of the northeast were very different from the parched sands of the northwest...and the southern regions had other distictive styles to them. In Cyrodil, the terrain seems to be pretty similar everywhere I've been, so you don't really get the feeling you've gone anywhere ELSE.

Then there was that big alien landscape in the center of the map in Morrowind that you had to go around due to the protective wall surrounding it. If you are an ant walking on a donut, you have to go all the way around the outside edge to reach the far side...if you're on an english muffin, you can cut straight through the middle which is much shorter. The forbidden zone in the center of Morrowind was the hole in our donut. Cyrodil is an english muffin. What's more, the main city is in the center rather than the extreme south, further shrinking necessary travel distances between civilization. Make sense?
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post Mar 27 2006, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(McHaggis @ Mar 27 2006, 11:33 PM)
I agree with all the comments regarding fast travel...if you use it, the world gets smaller quick.  I think the other thing that gives the impression of a smaller world is the lack of variety in landscapes.  In Morrowind, the rolling grassy hills of the northeast were very different from the parched sands of the northwest...and the southern regions had other distictive styles to them.  In Cyrodil, the terrain seems to be pretty similar everywhere I've been, so you don't really get the feeling you've gone anywhere ELSE. 

Then there was that big alien landscape in the center of the map in Morrowind that you had to go around due to the protective wall surrounding it.  If you are an ant walking on a donut, you have to go all the way around the outside edge to reach the far side...if you're on an english muffin, you can cut straight through the middle which is much shorter.  The forbidden zone in the center of Morrowind was the hole in our donut.  Cyrodil is an english muffin.  What's more, the main city is in the center rather than the extreme south, further shrinking necessary travel distances between civilization.  Make sense?
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Right, the envirionment changes in just a very subtle way, there are differences, but no desert-rainforest ones. Still i bet there is far more to discover when you actually go all those ways by foot, discovering every inch of it.
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post Mar 28 2006, 02:39 AM
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yeah it's pretty decent sized compared to Morrowind. I don't use a horse (my char has high speed anyway) and I limit how much I use fast travel cuz I like to explore and find dungeons, npcs with quests, ect......so yeah if you do that alot You get an idea to how massive the enviroment really is.
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post Mar 28 2006, 03:52 AM
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I think that the world feels much larger to me. While Morrowind was huge, I am dumbfounded by the huge vistas I see when cresting the tops of mountain and when exploring on foot, I come accross so many things I'd never guess were there, so it makes the game world feel very rich and very wide open. I think I understand how some of you feel, however. The only time I am sort of brought into perspective is when I am high up and see the Imperial City from miles away. This is probably what makes it feel smaller, as you have this huge spire just sticking up when ever you look at the horizone.
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post Mar 28 2006, 07:13 PM
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I agree - physically it's much bigger. Initially I only fast-travelled and got that impression that it wasn't that large, but after I started personally hoofing it (not with a horse) I found out how big it really was. Try wandering the mountains or the forests - you could do that for many hours!
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post Mar 29 2006, 04:00 AM
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I have learned to appreciate personally exploring in the game. I find stalking deer to be incredibly fun. Finding the deer, aiming juuuuust right, firing, and finding a dead carcass with a perfect kill shot is incredible. Thank you, Bethesda.
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