Harder the enemies...the better the loot!

I partitionaly disagree.
You can work you a$$ off by killing a Lich,and all what you get is a damn Bonemeal and a petty staff......And this is level 36 i'm talking!
I fight Spider Daedra and all i get is Silk and Venin.I fight Deadroth and all i get is his teeth.

But the loot on Vampires,Bandit's and all the other humanoids imporves and that's good

I really haven't found any of the game particularly hard. I started doing the Oblivion main quest around lvl 15 and now i'm 23 and still doing it. But only the first gate was hard because I didn't know what ot expect. Now I can close a gate in about 20 minutes and clearing the whole tower(s). I guess stealth characters just have the upper hand in this Elder Scroll.

Are they still hard to beat at this lvl?

TALKING FROM STEALTH CHAR PERSPECTIVE

Lich - If i catch him offguard (If i do critical hit),i have a very good chance of wining.
But when he spots me and starts casting summons and firing fireballs?Well i can beat it,but i have to use some restore health potions.Too bad poisons don't work for liches

Spider Daedra - Peace of cake.I'm Master at Marksman,but i fight Spider Daedra melee.I use an exelent Short Blade Chillrend (Send me a PM if you want to know how to aquire it) andi have about 75-78 blade.Trust me,that abomination can't hold on against strong,quick slashes of Chillrend.

Daedroth - Daedroth is a Melee brute.If i run backwards and fire him with my bow(Enchanted Daedric 20 Shock) i can easyly beat it.But i rarely enter a melee with Daedroth.

The current problem now is that damn daedra....i constantly can't remember it's name....it starts with an X......summons Clanfear,strong at melee and sturdy constitution,casts frost?No metter he is hard.

Good comments.
Xivilai. Not to bad if you're a fighter like me. I make MANY potions and often use the restore health by now. I play at 75% difficulty - lvl 26 and most fights with 2+ enemies requie potion use.

I REALLY hate the gloom wraiths. Poisons don't work on them either and they always have nasty draining spells and can be pretty tough to bring down.

Yep.
But they aren't so hard if you have a ranged weapon with you

The way i do it:
I make quite a distance,Get in Stealth Mode,And give it about 6 Critical shots.If the distance is big enough it can't detect me so i can beat the thing without geting a scratch

You know what's also giving me trouble?
Goblin Warlords.
They are sturdy,strong and quick.Plus they carry a shield so not every arrow works

This post has been edited by HyPN0: Apr 10 2006, 06:12 PM

I don't like leveling enemies that much. To a point it's a great thing. But now, whenever I level up I have no pleasure as I did in Morrowind. Even if I'm level 30, I won't have an easy time fighting enemies because they all level up to me. What's the pleasure in leveling up now? If I was level 30 in Morrowind then I would be a GOD by now, strong enough to kill Vivec who was level 100. Too much leveled things I say. It takes out the pleasure of leveling and it makes the game a little annoying. Like for example up to level X you never saw people wearing elven armour but after you pass level X suddenly everyone is sporting elven armour. Kinda strange ain't it?

Yep.
I remember what it took in Morrowind to collect the whole Daedric armor set.In Oblivion it seems that every stupid bandit has it

I always killed Divayth Fyr for it or used the console to get it into my inevntory. It was rock-hard to get daedric back in Morrowind but now in Oblivion once you get past a certain level, highwaymen start approaching you demanding 100 drakes when they're wearing 100 K.

I know what you mean
But they aren't wearing ''100 K''.Even Daedric armor isn't that all expensive.In Morrowind Daedric Long Sword was about 50 K.Now it's......well i don't know how much it costs but it's a LOT less than 50K.

Daedric longsword is about 3K.
I understand. Perhaps leveling could have been done better, but in general I believe it makes the game more fun for me.
Perhaps they could have made non-essential or non-boss NPC/monsters 10 levels behind you, but the others stay leveled.... OTOH, if you don't like fighting tough battles on the road to somewhere, fast travel, or, of course - move your slider!

I consider slider changing a cheat (of sorts).Actualy not a cheat,more like unfair use of the game.
But don't listen to me:I don't support sliders,trainers,gliches,and god knows what more (even i don't know).

Oh,when i get in trouble,i just cast an Invisibility spell.Retreat,repair myself,poison my arrow get in stealth mode and counter-attack!!!
Or when i don't want to get in battle,i allways have Invisibility on me

Offocurse if i run out of arrows i still have my beautyful shortsword....but if i run out of repair hammers.....fast travel

This post has been edited by HyPN0: Apr 11 2006, 03:32 PM

I really like monster levelling. I get a good amount of challenge with the slider at about 85%. I'm level 40 and specialized right from the beginning in blade, heavy armor and destruction.

It WAS really hard when the timber wolves first appeared and I had to back the slider all the way to 50%.

I have mixed feelings about loot levelling. you see, for me it feels really good to become rediculously rich in RPGs and dealing with creeper was tedious. In Oblivion there is enough expensive stuff after level 15 or so that you can get rich selling things for 1200 a pop.
On the other hand, I miss the excitement of finding a deadric ruin and thinking that maybe, just maybe, I'd get a daedric or glass weapon when I killed the demon.

I agree with this sentiment, however, it was pretty easy to get Daedric stuff even then. Just make an enchanted summon golden saint ring/amulet. Summon GS a few times, kill her, pick up the loot and you'll get plenty of glass/daedric stuff. I was always patient enough to get a daedric tower shield - good stuff!!!! (and incidentally what makes me sad about the changes in enchanting - a simple gold ring is as good as a daedric shield for enchanting now).

Really? I hadn't noticed. I'd just assumed and I've only been using the best.
That is pretty weak.

I like the fact that your enemies level up with you (mostly for the 'challenge' aspect of the game) but it can be pretty annoying in certain situations.

This post has been edited by xycolian: Apr 12 2006, 05:16 AM