I'm at the point that where I'm about to scream every time I see a troll. It's the only creature that can consistently pummel me to death. I have a stealth character, so I don't do much damage. Even if I manage to sneak attack it, if I doesn't kill the troll on the first blow (which I don't) they just regenerate health so fast that I can't kill them. Any suggestions other than wimping out and lowering the difficulty?

Oh,i feel your pain

I'm a stealth char myself,and at lower levels i had the exact same problem.Right now i eat them for breakfast,but they were pain in the back when i was about level 10-15 (I'm not sure really,i don't remember)

You're a Marksman right?You will need a good bow (Dwarwen is about minimum required IMO) and some decent arrows.Just run backwards and shot the damn thing from distance.Oh,and do the critical hit will you.......

It's also highly recommendable to make poisons and poison your weapons.Are you an Alchemist?If you aren't it's time you start developing Alchemy at least as a misc skill.....Trust me,this will pay off.

Use your Illusion skill.Invisibility can be very useful,at start even more useful than Chameleon.However you will need a little bit more magicka for Invisibility.Or you can mix an Invisibility potion.

Eben with this,thet're not easy.And you don't have to fight them really:All the loot you get from a troll is Troll Fat.Just sneak past it.There will be enough time for payback at later levels

Thanks for the ideas. I'm actually a poison fanatic, so I'll see if I can maybe brew up some more powerful drain health potions. I do have a decent illusion score, but I am having problems finding anyone who sells chameleon or invisibility spells. I just recently joined the mages guild (only to get better prices and eventually the enchantment/create spell ability) so maybe I haven't looked around enough, but I've been to the guild that specializes in illusion and no luck (I think they didn't have either spell, but maybe I just couldn't afford the gold/mana level). I've also got the marksman ability and a dwarven bow, so I'll try just going a little stealthier in areas where I know they hang out.

trolls are the reason I try to stick to fast travelling.

Don't quote me on this,but i think that Bravil Guild specialises in Illusion.Also,Dark Brotherhood has some decent Illusion spells.....

AND I CAN'T BELIVE I FORGOT THIS!!!!
TROLLS ARE WEAK TO FIRE!!!
TRY MAKING FIRE POISONS

This post has been edited by HyPN0: Apr 13 2006, 11:22 AM

hmm trolls were never much of a bother to me... ogres on the other hand... they walked all over me religiously.... not anymore tho

all i did was (apart from starting with high agility for bow damage), run away and keep shooting, it might take a LOT of arrows, but it gets the job done. this is the way i killed umbra WAY before i should have been able to as well. a really high AGI score is the way to go. and if you can get a decent fire enchanted bow (sometimes found on bandits and marauders) that helps a lot too.

<- stealth character with no illusion or alchemy skill made it a little harder to start out.

trolls weren't a problem for me either (i'm a mage though) because as hypno said, they go down like wet eggs in a decent fire storm

Fire poison is definitely the way to go!

Shoot it, then run like hell and wait until it dies. Also, shooting from a dark spot and then, as soon as you fire, seeking cover so it can't see you helps greatly.

Is it possible to go stealth after the troll has seen you? It's always seemed to me that once someone sees you, you can't hide without something like invisibility. Am I missing something?

Hint:
If you're hiden in a shadow and VERY long distance,you can shot creatures and they won't detect you.They will just stand there wondering where did it come from.But this requires a high sneak skill,and as i said it must be done from a very long distance.

Also when you shot an arrow to a Troll get out of there quickly but not while in runing mode!Stay in stealth mode and move yourself out of sight,somewhere in the shadow.The Troll will come,but if you hiden yourself well and you're lucky you will stay undetected

But once he's seen you....It's very hard to lose his trail exept with an Invisibility spell or if you run away long enough from him

Ogres are VERY easy if you're a Marksman And poisons work for them too
I don't know how is it to fight them melee or with spells though........

What are the ingrediants to create a fire poison??

I've never even seen a fire poison.

Here's a few:
Fire Salts + Imp Gall
Fire Salts + Spiddle Stick
Imp Gall + Steel Blue Entaloma Cap
Imp Gall + Spiddle Stick (Fire Damage+Damage Health,very good)
Spiddle Stick + Steel Blue Entaloma Cap

However,most of them are available only at expert and master alchemy perks


This post has been edited by HyPN0: Apr 13 2006, 07:22 PM

Hm.
I thought you could only create potions and poisons with two of the same type of effect?

But I'm only an apprentice.

Yet Grand-master.

Actualy i know a poison that has 5 (negative) effects.
Ingridients:
Wispstalk Cap + Fennel Seeds + Harrada + Morning Glory Root Pulp
Effects:
Damage Intelligence + Damage Magicka + Paralyze + Damage Health + Damage Willpower

But when I bring an ingredient up, and then choose my next one it shows nothing but something with the same type of effect.

You as an Apprentice are able to see just 2 effect of an ingridient.When you becaome a expert,you can see and use all 4 effects

This post has been edited by HyPN0: Apr 13 2006, 08:04 PM

There's a button you can press (on the 360 I think it's Y) that will show all of the ingredients, not just the ones with the same effect as the original one. You have to do this to get more than one effect (unless the first two ingredients have more than one thing in common).

Trolls make me glad I'm a battlemage. I just backpedal and spam flashbolt, then if they live through that I nail 'em with my Daedric claymore when they close range.