Guess I forget what an old dog I am- Chuck Taylors are/were Converse high-tops. They were the only "basketball shoes" when I was in elementary and junior high school.

Ello, all ^^ :takes a seat: May I have a coffee please???
@ Trey = I still where Chucks

Wow, so now I'm a rising senior.. Awesome.. Finished my US history test in 30 mins flat! 100 questions solved like they were nothing... Danny you have/had to take that exam right?

I don't take it until June 8 or 9. Since we started later than you, we get out later too.

But yeah; it's gonna suck, mainly because history is just a bunch of facts to remember; no skill that you can apply to solve a question, just memorization.

How the hell can they actually make up 100 questions on US history? That's a question every 2.3 years!

I mean granted, you have some interesting little blips in your history, but otherwise it's pretty dry, even if you ignore the wars that most people in the US seem to be completely oblivious of. Plus a lot of it is incredibly pointless seeing as the great documents are a touch flexible. For that I would point out the Falklands Conflict. Kind of screws the Munroe Doctrine, don't it? Even Teddy's little addition.

About the most interesting part (other than World War 2, which I find fascinating - I recently read Ewen Montagu's biography of the Twenty Commitee) is the Civil War. Currently, I'm playing Take Command: 2nd Manassas. And yes, before anyone says anything, I know I should be revising...blurgh.

*Olav eagerly awaits American comments on Foster's post...

I finished my Spanish final today. Found out I have to take my Geometry final. I'm exempt from all the other ones though. It's really really hot outside. I live down south. I hope that some day, I can move to an area where it never gets this hot.... Yes. I am a very hot-natured person.

Looking forward to going home today, updating my story, and then settling down to play some God of War.

@Channler: I'm now a Junior! *dances* Now, I can invite myself to Junior/Senior prom. >.> <.<...

@Olav: This isn't the P-forum so...

@Foster: The UK seems to have very little history other then the why they suck at handling Ireland... But I know they go a hell of a lot deeper then that because I consider myself fairly learned.

Open a book, I see you can read. Grant it our general schooling is quite liberally based but its not all wrong.

Well, it's true.
Try my country history. Old Slovenians, Nemanjić Dynasty (big dynasty, you have to know every one of them) , Karadjordjević dynasty, Obrenović dynasty, the whole slavery under Turks, Serbia in 1st world war, Serbia in second world war, Former Yugoslavia, and nowdays, the history even encludes the war in 1999.

USA don't have as nearly rich history
Ahh, somehow I just loved history in school. We were badasses back in the medieval times
EDIT:

You were right on both times
Serbia and Montenegro became seperate states. It's better this way. I wonder how will it effect economy

BTW, milanius, when you're online, tell me what do you think about Serbia and Montenegro being separated

This post has been edited by HyPN0: May 24 2006, 06:12 AM

US schooling may not be wrong in most cases (I reserve that due to the fact that evolution can only be taught as a theory in some states, and even then with a whopping disclaimer on it), but I think that US history is, comparatively, a very small subject. Even if you feeling like you really need to stretch it to the 7 years war, you're still looking at just over 250 years. Now, whilst I'm sure you might think that a lot of stuff can happen it that period, I think that anyone who is even remotely learned will acknowledge that US History is a) not as complex as the various dynastic struggles of other countries (for example the War of the Roses), not as long as the history of most other countries (UK history is taught starting in the Iron Age, and goes right up to the end of the second world war - even then, it skips humungous chunks because there is little way of explaining the precise intricacies of the Hundred Years War to kiddies), and c) for a large proportion very isolationist.

Now, as it happens, I do on occasion open books. This is how a Pharmacy student is able to point out the flaws of US foriegn policy dictated in the early 19th century, how I know what the Hunley was, and how I can quote Robert E Lee's conversations to James Longstreet (and know who both of them were).

In the short space of time that the US has existed, the UK, France, the area of land that is now Germany, even Turkey have had a more interesting history. So my point is that if you remove the civil war and the second world war (I'll even leave in 1918-1930, or 'how the US screwed up the world through good intentions and rubbish finances'), you're going to be struggling for questions without delving into popular culture.

And I'm sure this is now getting towards the loose definitions of what this particular thread isn't, so I'm going to stop going on about it.

I'm sure that the US has some sweet history, but the Europeans that came over were too busy killing the natives to learn anything from them.

I'm sure there were some awesome tribal wars going on.

I normally never post in discussions like this, because I prefer to stay neutral....but I kinda liked the blackish humour in your post Danny!.....And I also think you are right!....

Okaaay. Is there any point in me saying anything about the Ireland situation, if thats all we've accomplished in our history? Stupid comment, and the "I see you can read" wasn't helpful either. Slightly annoyed by that. More annoyed with this.



Some of that seems designed to irritate our American members, the rest ("This is how a Pharmacy student is able to point out the flaws of US foriegn policy dictated in the early 19th century, how I know what the Hunley was, and how I can quote Robert E Lee's conversations to James Longstreet (and know who both of them were") just makes me think you're a pretentious arse.

@ burntsierra
Ouch, wasn't that a bit too aggressive

Congratulations to Montenegro. That must be really exciting to be in your own country after conflicts for a long time.

Dantrag is right ... the Europeans who came here used the native people to aide in their struggels against each other when it suited them - French and Indian War -- but when it no longer suited, they killed them off, stole their land, relocated them to barren and sometimes unlivable places. The Europeans benefited from the "living off the land" hunter/gatherer lifestyle at the first Thanksgiving when they were starving ... but never caught on to the respect for the land the Indians lived by.

After Dantrag's previous post about European settlers killing and raping the Indians, I flashed on the Trail of Tears - where 1000s of Sioux Indians were forced to walk to a reservation near Wounded Knee, South Dakota for relocation and 100s died on the way. Once there, they were given no food, shelter or hope of survival ... and so they did The Ghost Dance - huge circular dancing and chanting in circles to your death. This way they reunited with their ancestors. Some hauntingly beaurtiful people click, if you ask me.

Wish we could learn more from them. Glad some of the descendants have casinos now ... they deserve everything they can get.

And later, the US government outlawed the Ghost Dance, and when the natives continued it, they were massacred.

Well, yes, probably. Both posters were intentionally putting down the other persons country and history, whilst talking about how smart they were. Which I don't like. However you're correct, my post makes me an irritated arse. Guess I ain't perfect.

There were no real conflicts like war conflicts or anything. Some Montenegros are really sorry we devided. This move will increase the income on the seaside area of Montenegro, but it will make the area that is not on sea a lot poorer. This wasn't a good move... For them

I never met a man who was

Minque, if you don't mind ... I will take a small cuppa to go whilst the fur is flying around here and people seem to be arguing abit. How did we get from shoes to arguments so quick?
Well, it is the coffee shop talk and I'll just go around the block and come back in and I'm sure everything will be fine and tempers will be mended.

So have some coffee now , please Ibis..help yourself! ......and say goodbye to me! I´m leaving for a couple of days...See you all later!