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post May 29 2006, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ May 29 2006, 04:01 AM)
Since as far as I can tell my last post was deleted [snip]
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I know you're probably too experienced to have let this happen, but could it be a possibility that you forgot to hit 'add reply' after previewing the post? That has happened to me a few times here...

Regarding police officers I have no real opinions on that except that I know that they're only human like anyone else. I respect those who choose such a tough, crappy and low paid job, but for these reasons there is also a chance of corruption I guess.


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post May 29 2006, 09:33 AM
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Thank you for answering me folks smile.gif

DoomedOne, you should really PM a moderator or Admin concerning that. Or, as Olav said, are you sure you hit the reply button? evillol.gif



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post May 29 2006, 09:56 AM
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Yeah I thought about that, but I'm sure I saw the message on this thread before closing it, I've wised up to that after the first few times. I see absolutel no reason why it'd be deleted, either.


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post May 29 2006, 06:16 PM
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Just ask Star... Common.

So... What are you alls thoughts on the new chinese car that is supposed to be imported to the USA in the near future?

I've read bits and peices and can't find any solid info. Heard that their crap on wheels (something from a european review) to its going to take over the car industry. Personally I've always been a fan of import cars, me likes to street race. But I still love alot of american cars.

But when it comes to price, and sometimes style, I'll go import. In reguards to hauling stuff and mass transportation, I generally stay american.

And btw doomed! You think I'm so anti-enviroment and whatnot, ever heard of bio-desiel? Consider it a bootleg operation but me and father make our own fuel! Burns cleaner, doesn't polute the atmosphere, and smells like fries.


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post May 29 2006, 06:30 PM
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Clannler, provide enough info on that car. I have no idea what's it all about. What's the type of the car? How is the car called? Do you have any article on it?


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post May 30 2006, 02:02 AM
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Channler, when have I ever called you anti-environment? It sounds like you're projecting your own thoughts onto me. I have never called you anti-environmental, I've only thought you were a bit of an boatmaster for calling me an eco-nazi.

But good for you to start making bio-diesel, and I've more than heard of it, I've printed something like 2000 leaflets and put them on car windows telling people how to obtain it and giving them all the necessary facts about it.


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post May 30 2006, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ May 29 2006, 09:02 PM)
Channler, when have I ever called you anti-environment?  It sounds like you're projecting your own thoughts onto me.  I have never called you anti-environmental, I've only thought you were a bit of an boatmaster for calling me an eco-nazi.

But good for you to start making bio-diesel, and I've more than heard of it, I've printed something like 2000 leaflets and put them on car windows telling people how to obtain it and giving them all the necessary facts about it.
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Is bio-diesel the ethanol stuff?


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post May 30 2006, 03:05 AM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ May 29 2006, 09:02 PM)
Channler, when have I ever called you anti-environment?  It sounds like you're projecting your own thoughts onto me.  I have never called you anti-environmental, I've only thought you were a bit of an boatmaster for calling me an eco-nazi.

But good for you to start making bio-diesel, and I've more than heard of it, I've printed something like 2000 leaflets and put them on car windows telling people how to obtain it and giving them all the necessary facts about it.
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Yes you have.. wink.gif

I remeber cause I was boasting about my big boat truck (which now lies in a junk yard) and its big bad assness. You actually said something a little more severe, but being that it came from you I took it as goodwill biggrin.gif

@ Danny: Well, sorta, and not really at the same time. Eth is big on corn. This uses grease. Pref not french fry but it works. Its really neat, but doesn't get as good milage as gasoline does. However it still has the same kick gas has and it burns a helluva lot cleaner. Cool idea, but right now it is kinda hard to do unless you live in someplace thats really built up. it also requires an investment.

I actually love the enviroment, quite opposite to my conservative cousins (metaphorically of course)


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post May 30 2006, 05:39 AM
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Bravo!!! for Channler & Dad for making your own fuel ... I've heard of people doing this but have never had the privilege to meet such a resourceful person ... now I have! biggrin.gif

The funniest story I've heard concerning this was from some people who follow UCF football games, both home and away & they drive to the tailgate parties en masse with other fans.
At one rally they were following their friends car the whole way who made their own gas, same kind Channler is talking about I guess ... because my friend who was telling the story said that everyone in the following car was ravenously hungry for french fries by the time they got to the tailgate party because the front car's fuel exhaust smelled like french fries. ahahahaha!!


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post May 30 2006, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(Dantrag @ May 30 2006, 03:46 AM)
Is bio-diesel the ethanol stuff?
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I don't know the chemical term for it, but bio-diesel is made from biological things (duh tongue.gif) like food waste, for example. I know there are several farms dedicated to growing grain/crops solely for the purpose of creating bio-diesel.

Btw, here is what Wikipedia has to say about it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bio-diesel

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post May 30 2006, 08:38 AM
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Well its still partially diesel soo.. And even though it seems kinda bootleg I'm hard pressed to find a cheaper cleaner method.. you know?


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post May 30 2006, 08:45 AM
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It's not bootleg at all, you're not stealing anything, you're just not purchasing an outdated, dangerous, dirty, over-priced product.


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post May 30 2006, 09:07 AM
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And it's your car, so surely it's not illegal is it? I mean, it's your business. You're not bothering anyone.

Like, if you wanted to polish your car with old cloth diapers (clean ones of course ehehe) instead of buying a chamoise bought at a store. That's not illegal or bootleg.


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post May 30 2006, 10:24 AM
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Well it is more expensive than normal diesel for now, but it's a great alternative for when fossil fuels run out. Of course by that time we'll probably have many more energy sources as well, but the more the merrier. My goal is to have a flying car fueled by anti-matter... tongue.gif


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post May 30 2006, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(Olav @ May 30 2006, 12:37 AM)
I don't know the chemical term for it, but bio-diesel is made from biological things (duh  tongue.gif) like food waste, for example.
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ethanol is also organic wink.gif as is petroleum. the difference between the two would be that ethanol is alcohol(originating in sugar), whereas the bio-diesel would be a lipid based product(hydrocarbons). so since cars run on petroleum based products (also long long complex chains of hydrocarbons) it would be wisest to, when using an altrnative, sticking to the same family of fuels as the engine runs on.

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As fascinating as hydrocarbons and their general polluting effects are...what does this have to do with politics?


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QUOTE(Foster @ May 30 2006, 05:40 PM)
what does this have to do with politics?
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Best point so far biggrin.gif
Anyway, Clannler's question wasn't answered:
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So... What are you alls thoughts on the new chinese car that is supposed to be imported to the USA in the near future?

I've read bits and peices and can't find any solid info. Heard that their crap on wheels (something from a european review) to its going to take over the car industry. Personally I've always been a fan of import cars, me likes to street race. But I still love alot of american cars.

But when it comes to price, and sometimes style, I'll go import. In reguards to hauling stuff and mass transportation, I generally stay american.


So what's that about? What car are you talking about Clannler?
Something that could jeperdise the USA car industry?

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post May 30 2006, 04:53 PM
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Being curious I did just a quick search on it and found this article.

Also found this one.

Although the man is the one that brought in the yugo..

If the cars look anything like the yugo and of are the same quality... I wouldn't be too worried about the impact. The yugo failed so miserably here, I don't even think they are still sold.

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*Cough* *Cough*
I was actualy driving a Yugo, and it's a decent car.... for a couple of years.
And yes, I wouldn't be that concerned about that Chinese crap. You can guess what type of car it is. Low cost, low quality. It's posible that it will be popular among poorer citizens of the USA. Cheap car + Doesn't spend a lot of gas (like all the USA cars do).


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post May 30 2006, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(Channler @ May 30 2006, 02:05 AM)
@ Danny: Well, sorta, and not really at the same time. Eth is big on corn. This uses grease. Pref not french fry but it works. Its really neat, but doesn't get as good milage as gasoline does. However it still has the same kick gas has and it burns a helluva lot cleaner. Cool idea, but right now it is kinda hard to do unless you live in someplace thats really built up. it also requires an investment.

I actually love the enviroment, quite opposite to my conservative cousins (metaphorically of course)
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QUOTE(Megil Tel-Zeke @ May 30 2006, 12:14 PM)
ethanol is also organic wink.gif as is petroleum.  the difference between the two would be that ethanol is alcohol(originating in sugar), whereas the bio-diesel would be a lipid based product(hydrocarbons).  so since cars run on petroleum based products (also long long complex chains of hydrocarbons) it would be wisest to, when using an altrnative, sticking to the same family of fuels as the engine runs on.
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Props for ALL things biologically safe & clean smile.gif I know that petroleum substitutes will eventually affect the industry, but it is inevitable. Reserves of crude oil won't last forever and this just sounds like a good and valid alternative... although, it is a downside when your car constantly smells of french fries and makes you hungry 24/7 blink.gif biggrin.gif

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I was actualy driving a Yugo, and it's a decent car.... for a couple of years.
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ROFL laugh.gif that, my dear friend, sound just like something Oscar Wilde, THE PIMP DADDY would say biggrin.gif seriously, if you wanna get a decent car... and this goes for entire world, not just Europe or America or any particular place... go for the German. Volkswagen For The Win, every day, all the way !

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