I know i'm kind of jumping ahead and thinking to far into the future, but i want to know what you guys think the next TES will be like, or if you do know then tell me please. I mean like what province do you think it will play in, or what would be a good name for it and how they are gonna improve. Please share your thoughts

Final Scrolls of Elder Fantasy


Those crazy japanese do it again as they combine Final Fantasy with yet another successful american product. Fight alongside your favorite final fantasy characters in yet another completely unimaginative and cliche Final Fantasy product, but this time in the exciting new world of NIRN!

Emperor Cait Sith? Mehrunes Sephiroth? What's not to love!?

How many times can we get away with reusing the same content over and over again? Let's find out!

This will be the final Final Fantasy you'll ever want to play!

This post has been edited by Intestinal Chaos: Aug 25 2006, 04:36 AM

Hahahaha! Genius! I'll buy four!

They better proportion Tifa appropriately

Why, even better, she'll be a Khajiit.

I never played Final Fantasy so I cannot join in the revelry concerning that.

But I think that they are going to make sequels for Oblivion, like Tribunal and Bloodmoon were to Morrowind and I think that they picked the centralized province of Cyrodiil, not only because it is the capitol province of the Empire - but because it will be easy access to all the other provinces from Cyrodiil.

Since Morrowind took place in Vvardenfell, and Arena included all of Tamriel and Daggerfall took place in High Rock ... I'm guessing that one of the beast races might get more attention in a sequel. Our beloved khajiits of Elsewyr would be easy to get to from Cyrodiil.
Skyrim is also a likely choice, although it might be alittle too similar to Solstheim Island of Bloodmoon. I would personally like to see the Summerset Isles because they were not actually included in Arena - it was the main continent - and their beautiful glass towers and architecture would be beautiful to see.

But these possible provinces have not yet been soley featured in a TES game or sequel = Skyrim, Hammerfell, Black Marsh, Elsewyr, The Summerset Isles, Valenwood. Valenwood would be cool for a game location too - very different and forested probably.

If it was in Valenwood, we'll likely see cannibals!

Now, that would make things interesting if you were forced with visit a cannibalistic tribe or something.

Really?????? There are cannibals in the Valenwoods?? Howwww delicious .... MmMmMmmmm, roasted Pisces-kabobs! Cant' wait for that!

If I remember my Elder Scrolls lore correctly, primitive Bosmer are cannabilistic.

*star rainbow* The more you know! *star rainbow*

The stargazer man ... "keep on looing (it) up!"

Sorry, that has nothing to do with the next TES game, which I will be happy with being set anywhere ... as long as it comes. {And has some of the extras Morrowind had that Oblivion cut out.)

This post has been edited by Ibis: Aug 27 2006, 09:41 PM

You mean the letters RP from RPG?

God, Rane you can hit things right on the head!!! Yuppers!

Zing!

Ha, you said it.

You know, as much as I'd wish I will be proven wrong, I fear that the next TES installment will be even more of an action-focused game. Sure, I might be making jokes about how less of a RPG Oblivion is most of the time and point out its failures the rest of time, but I guess what I really should be doing is voicing my opinion, sharing my views and trying to give ideas and constructive criticism somewhere where the developers could read it. Problem is, I'm not even sure where that would be. There was a time I saw the devs drop in at the official forums almost every day, commenting on whatever they felt like. Now, I'd dare to say that we might see a handful dev posts at its most every month.

The devs themselves claim that they do read most of what's being said, but what's the point of that if they do not chime in on the discussions? After all, they were behind the decisions and the integration of all the features and aspects of the game. They could at least give a reason as to why they made certain choices. Further, I'd be very interested in reading what [dev name] would have done differently if given enough time/resources/choice.

Anyway, returning to as to why I've lost pretty much any hope that the constructive criticism aimed at the game (yes, such criticism does exist) would really help the next installment. Looking back at the complaints that were brought up with Morrowind, we now find that some of the flaws of MW were fixed with Oblivion.

One, things are easier to find. Of course, one could question if things really needed to change in this aspect and if it's not too easy to find now (in my opinion, the compass in its current state was a bad decision).

Two, the animations do look better now. The "stick up yer rear" is gone and usually creatures'/NPCs' movement is smooth. Still, this is merely eye-candy, which I don't find to be that important in RPGs.

Three, the ability to become a demi-god at level ~20. Yes, you pretty much became the most powerful entity in the entire game at the middle-levels, leaving little or no challenge for your character. With Ob, we were given level-scaling. A system that really doesn't make any sense. In what world does every being grow stronger at the exact same rate without any limits? Again, a flaw replaced by another flaw.

My point is, to me it seems like the improvements made between MW and OB have either turned into disasters or then they have only helped the series move away from the RPG genre. The quality of the dialogue in Morrowind, the lack of choice/consequence situations and a linear mainquest were all flaws that were brought up with Morrowind, yet I find these in Oblivion, without any visible improvements. If BethSoft continues to focus on improving the more action/adventure-like features of the series then the least they could do is to market their next game as what it is instead of continuing to claim the game to be a RPG.

If you ask me, I'd say we should be expecting either a really bad RPG set in the Summerset Isles, or then a really good action/adventure game where you are taken on a journey to the land of the Altmer.

Lore is out. Simplicity and action is in.

If TES5 is going to be anything like Oblivion in terms of RPGyness, I won't buy it. I've got very little hope it will be better though.

Basically my thoughts on the next Elderscrolls game, I think they took away too much of the roleplaying and made it into an action game with OB and I doubt it will improve. With all the "advancements" the game had I don't think it was nearly as good as Morrowind in terms of the roleplaying experience.

This post has been edited by Kiln: Aug 28 2006, 05:13 PM

Funny how we can't say what we REALLY think of oblivion, because it would count as flaming or troll-baiting. Regardless, I simply feel that Bethsoft no longer wishes to appeal to the RPers, and wants to make more money, an understandable desire.

Like my signature on the Offical Forums says: "Man, Cyrodiil was a dissapointment; but its good to be back in Vvardenfell."

In other words, Morrowind was great, and I will keep on playing a great game, until my eyes fall out.

Awaits for Rane to delete post...

Why would I delete it? Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and you're free to share them with everyone else on this forum as long as you don't take to using foul language, verbally attacking people who think differently than you or simply stir up things only wishing to cause trouble. If you say the game sucks and list the reasons as to why you feel that way I really have no right to delete your message. Likewise, if you see the game as the world's greatest RPG for whatever reasons, I still have no right to silence you. You'd just find me strongly disagreeing with you if the latter was the case.

So honestly ... how many people think that Morrowind is going to be Bethesda's crown jewel and no other offering either before or after will ever shine as bright? I hope that isn't true, but it is sadly what I expect... but I think they could rouse to another crowning achievement like Morrowind if they wanted to and as someone said - stop wanting money over appealing to RPGers.

Afterall, we are their bread and butter.

As Black Hand stated, I still am playing and modding in Morrowind. Whatever else Beth does or doesn't do, Morrowind is a fantastic game, best RPer there is and nothing will change that. Except a better one

Well, I'd like to see (it's kind of like and expansion pack combined into a new game that is an old game) is something (said previously) that incorperates all of Morrowind (including Vvardenfell as well as mainland Morrowind) into Oblivion, making it possible to go to Morrowind across the border. It should have everything in Morrowind lore as well as everything in the actual game. That'd be so cool... for all you Morrowind lovers and me (OMG, an Oblivion lover!).