Yeh Abu ... I know what you mean. It'd be too too sweet if they could somehow build an engine that somehow would allow you to bridge between and play all their Tamriel games with one continuous character - - - Arena, Daggerfaff, Redguard, Morrowind with both expansions and Oblivion with whatever expansions will come for it.

They did manage to make Arena playable for w2k/wXP using the DosBox ... so maybe a customization of the DosBox could be useful in bridging all the games???

That'd be so awesome that (despite the older, cruder graphics of Arena/Daggerfall/RedGuard) I'd probably never play anything else!!

This post has been edited by Ibis: Aug 30 2006, 11:47 PM

Hmm, I dont think that an expansion into morrowind is a good idea. I mean, doesnt it sound kind of nostalgic on our part to say "Oblivion Graphics are great, but thats all, lets make a Morrowind Mod with Oblivion Graphics, because we love morrowind, yup we sure do love that Morrowind. Morrowind, Morrowind, Morrowind! Can't get enough of that Morrowind!"

I am sorry, but thats what it sounds like to me, not wishing to offend anyone. But, if they would work on a mod/expansion that makes the guilds more like morrowinds; I would find that appealing.

In truth I did like the Dark Brotherhood Guild in Oblivion. It seemed to be the ONLY guild that required that you roleplay, or at least gave you some decnt bonuses if you did as a stealthy assassin. Dont get me wrong, I may like the Assassins guild most in these games but there was a thousand ways they could have gone wrong in DB, but they got it just right IMHO.

But as for that mod, Imagine Vicente Valtieri lilting voice saying, "Forgive me Brother/Sister, but you dont qualify for advancement yet, please, hone your skills, so that you may yet serve Sithis in a rank more suited to one of your ambitions."

THAT WOULD BE COOL!

Then you just go around town sneaking for an hour, and come back after you gett that 5 point boost in sneak or marksman that you need, and:

"Ah yes! I can see that you have learned more of our shadowy art. Please, allow me to bestow upon you the rank of {InsertRankTitleHere}, brother/sister. May you walk always in the Shadow of Sithis!"

Yea, the does sound like a good idea Black. Just the fact that you can join every guild in Oblivion doesn't make sense if you're looking to roleplay the character appropriately. With the skills to raise rank in Morrowind, it forced you to join guilds you're character suited.

I definitely find it absurd to have a character that is champion of the Fighter's Guild, yet they only use magic.

Even more absurd that my magic retarded fighter became mage's guild headmaster. Stat and skill requirements for promotions should have been implemented like in morrowind to stop that from happening.

Morrowind just made so much more sense on so many levels - ahhh, but I am singing the Morrowind Lament again. Think I'll just go play it. I'm starting a new Enchantress with a whole bunch of Better Heads, Better Bodies, CanadianIce Robes, Gowns, Rose Armor, LeFemme Armor, Rhedd Heads, etc., etc. = sheer paper dolls roleplay.

Think I'll explore heavily into TelVanni life ... I usually avoid them like the plague. Don't really care for the architecture, but it's 'growing on me' tee hee ... after the austerity of Cyrodiil.

Perhaps they learnt not to listen to the fans, Oblivion has sooo many features which the fans were begging for after Morrowind, then when they released it all the fans bitched about those features they asked for, hopefully they have learnt that people are stupid.

Everyone here is assuming that Bethseda will follow oblivion in a straight line trend, but if you look at Bethseda's history, they jump from one side to the other, the next game will likely have lots of quests and the most bugs and errors every recorded in a game.

Tadaaa!! My aquatic friend is down off the mountain ... must be Springtime in New Zealand!

I tend to agree with Pisces, Bethesda moves all around in different directions concerning game content and gameplay. Although the many are Tamrielic in setting, they have differed widely in gameplay. Arena established the entire empire of Tamriel and took place all over the continent, excluding the Summerest Isles which were fabled about. The next, Daggerfall was Arena's successor yet only took place in one province, High Rock. Then came RedGuard - of similar flavor but not part of the succession. Then our beloved Morrowind and Tribunal and Bloodmoon ... Bethesda hit it just right on the head here. Especially with the modding which breathed years of life into a game that truly will probably never die. So now is Oblivion, set in the capitol city of Tamriel...many of us feel it is lacking too much of MW content although it does have asked for features, as Pisces points out. Buuuttt, we are not giving Beth enough time for Oblivion sequels yet ... who knows what content they may incorporate with expansion packs. So, don't count Oblivion down yet - let's wait and see what happens.

PS-look how well Pirates of the Caribbean launched Johnny Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow .. or was it the other way around? Anyway, it too is a Bethesda game - now made famous. Imagine if there were a Nerevarine Movie or an Oblivion Movie. Could happen.

Yes, give it some time. After all, Morrowind is famous because of the countless mods, not because of the basic core though that one is good as well. (Tribunal and Bloodmoon are simply a really big mod in my opinion.)

As for a Nerevarine movie? I'm not sure. They would have to freeze the idea of just who the Nerevarine is. If I would see that movie and then played some Morrowind, I would be constantly comparing my character with the one from the movie. So I think it's best if there isn't a movie about the games.
On the other hand, no one said it wouldn't be cool if there is a Tamriel movie that establishes a new story.

And so far, video game to-movie adaptations have been terrible... Just look at Doom and Bloodrayne. Major bombs. I haven't heard much better things with Silent Hill either.

I would definitely second a Tamriel movie, just not based on Morrowind or Oblivion. Maybe the Redguard game might make a good adaptation, since you have to play a certain character and it's somewhat linear in gameplay. Something entirely new would be awesome as well. Just as long as they don't make a game on it afterwards. If they did, they would have to make it extremely good.

Good idea Jack and The Metal Mallet, a Tamrielic movie would be wonderful! I agree that it should be about something entirely different from the games/expansions. Perhaps one of the more interesting books of MW/Obliv could be adapted into a movie. Or a setting where there has been no game before .... Summerset Isles, Elsewyr, Black Marsh ... one of the beast races would make it exceptionally fun to watch.

I guess the nest ES could be a movie, very unlikely but i guess you could throw it out there.

Erm. A Movie would be a terrible Idea IMHO. I never ever played D&D growing up. I played FPS before Morrowind to a sickening degree.

I can now no longer play them because of intense boredom that sets in, indeed my version of hell would be eternal boredom trying to run around shooting anything that moves for two hours.

When a friend came over to my house and said "Dude, you gotta play this game!" I was reluctant at first, I knew what elves were, but the idea of playing a game filled with them, gave me the "I'm a geek" Heebie-Jeebies, but I decided to give it a try, and I'm glad I did.

Four Years later, and I still play it. I still play on my XBox with a character named Sethyas Velas, with the Longish Dark Hair parted down the middle, with the Black Hand Tattoo on his Dunmer Face.

I play him as an Assassin, trying to use only Alchemy for all the spell effects I would normally need. If it means I run around inthe grazelands for an hour picking Wickwheat (Yeilds about 1000) for restore health potions, so be it. I feel like this character is alive, and expereincing things.

What is the point of all this?

You can't force the learning experience that is Morrowind into two hours of movie. I remember when I first started playing, that I would just run around thinking how incredible this was. Walking the path, and watching the path are two different things.

Aww man, i realize that I've been shooting down Ideas left and right. I am sorry if I am coming across as overly critical, its just my nature to assume the worst I guess.

But please, If YOU think its a good idea, pay me no mind, I'm just trying to give everyone two cents.

That is a very good point well taken. Now that I think of it, any movie about Tamriel should only show the beauty and variety of Nirn ... but not try to emulate anyone's gameplay in the land. Because you are right, it couldn't be contained within a two hour movie.

I still hold that one of the books of Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind or Oblivion ... showing and expanding upon the plot therein ... might make for a good movie. There are some really darn good books and quite such the variety of subject matter too.

That's why I suggested not to make a movie on the existing games. If it's a brand new experience, with unfamiliar territory, our preconceptions of what it should be are void.

I'm completely understand your viewpoint though, Black. I figure if they do make a movie, a lot of the lore of the Elder Scrolls would probably be left out. And that's a depressing thing. I would think that it would be fairly action packed, with some interesting visuals (if it's somewhere I haven't seen before, I might be a bit too critical on visuals if, say, it took place on Morrowind).

They could always prove me wrong though, LotR seemed to get the lore all in. Of course that took over 9 hours of film to do it....

If it looked significantly better than the typical video game movie, I'd watch it.

Yes I would too Danny just out of curiousity.

Mallet, I think that people who read LOTR first may feel that some of the lore did get skipped over or left out. My favorite Tolkien book was always the Hobbit, so I was thrilled to see Uncle Bilbo Baggins in the Elven stronghold...was cool.

I would very much like to see the next TES game set in the Summerset Isles. I think that the Summerset Isles would be a popular choice for the next game in the series. I had a dream once that I was an Altmer living in the Summerset Isles, and I was at a meeting with important Altmer mage elders, who were plotting against the Empire. It was the craziest dream I've ever had- this old Altmer guy had us whipped up into a frenzy; we weren't to take any more crap from those Imperialist bastards! I think that this would be a great plot for the game.

wow, I love your dream, Smart Patrol! It would make a good plot for a game sequel ... or maybe a teaser movie first?

I said a while ago if this ever happened, I'd quit TES altogether. Seeing as how I've now got a much more realistic view and outlook on where TES is headed, it's not at all unrealistic. If it's anything like Oblivion, you'll get to see lots of really cool special effects in deep dark places, a tiny teeny bit of blah blah dialog in the beginning and end and very boombastic sound, and music by Jeremy Soule.

As for the story, well. Who really cares about that anyway? Complete unknown to save world, news at 11.