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stargelman
post Feb 12 2005, 09:44 PM
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Just found this bit about/concerning copyright.

I gotta say, the way they go with copyright laws right now is really frightening. Next thing you know, you won't be able to look at something on your way to work without paying for having the extraordinary pleasure of seeing it.

And what's with copyright laws being extended to over a hundred years? That's just rediculous. I mean yes, I do believe that if you create something original and/or beautiful, you should be compensated for it, but THIS is just going way over the top.


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post Feb 12 2005, 09:50 PM
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Personaly I disagree. People do take pictures of rare and beautiful things and try to sell them; thats why you aren't allowd to take cameras in most museums now adays since you could try and sell pictures of the artifacts.


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post Feb 12 2005, 09:52 PM
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Personaly I dissagree. People do take pictures of rare and beautiful things and try to sell them; thats why you aren't allowd to take cameras in most museums now adays since you could tyr and sell pictures of the artifacts.

Yeah but that thing is out in the open, not in some special building!


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post Feb 12 2005, 09:56 PM
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You have to pay to get into that open area wink.gif


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post Feb 12 2005, 09:59 PM
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You have to pay to get into that open area wink.gif

I still think it's rediculous. That thing has cost $475 million already, and that's not enough for that guy? I mean, they're argueing that taking pictures of that thing violates HIS rights... how much does he want? :verysad:


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post Feb 12 2005, 10:13 PM
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It cost that much to make it doesn't mean he made that much profit. kvleft.gif


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post Feb 12 2005, 10:17 PM
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It cost that much to make it doesn't mean he made that much profit. kvleft.gif

Yeah perhaps, but it should still leave enough :confused:


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post Feb 12 2005, 10:44 PM
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In most museums you CAN take pictures. In places where you can't its not because you might try and sell a copy, its because on older paintings, many many flash bulbs over time can damage them. They've actually lessened that rule now that people can often take pictures without a flash, and some museums state "no flash photography". You can take pictures in the Smithsonian, for example, even in the galleries.

Anyway, that is a beautiful sculpture, but that artist is either being a jerk or he is doing it as a media stunt to get more attention for his piece (which is very common in contemporary art).

I mean, look at how people are reacting. They are taking LOTS of pictures and posting websites despite him. Wowie, free promotion. I don't thik that artist is as dumb as it seems at first.

As an afterthought:
Maybe the piece in itself is in part conceptual. Maybe it's about "who owns copyright in reflected images." I mean really. it wouldn't be ANYTHING the same if it was a matte material, would it?

I think there's a lot more to this than meets the eye, heh. wink.gif


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post Feb 13 2005, 01:21 AM
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There was a great Heinlein? short piece about a plan to extend copyright to the heirs of the original author/artist for some unbelievable period- like maybe in perpetuity and to make it much broader.

The "hero" finally explained to a politician that, basically, they were stifling the creation of any new works, because there are only a limited number of plots, perspectives, musical arrangements, etc.

With the new laws, anyone who wrote or painted anything would be in violation of someone's copyright.
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post Feb 13 2005, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(stargelman)
Just found this bit about/concerning copyright.

I gotta say, the way they go with copyright laws right now is really frightening. Next thing you know, you won't be able to look at something on your way to work without paying for having the extraordinary pleasure of seeing it.

And what's with copyright laws being extended to over a hundred years? That's just rediculous. I mean yes, I do believe that if you create something original and/or beautiful, you should be compensated for it, but THIS is just going way over the top.


WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

That's CRAZY!!!

I think I'm gonna get a patent on HOT WATER and everyone who makes himself a hot tea would have to pay me 400 $ or what?
That would be quite cool biggrin.gif


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post Feb 13 2005, 02:24 PM
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biggrin.gif oh boy....well..hmmm I´m going to make coffee.....how much ???


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post Feb 13 2005, 02:25 PM
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50 € per litre biggrin.gif


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post Feb 13 2005, 02:30 PM
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50 € per litre biggrin.gif


uh-o...hmmm Ok so I give you 10euro..... wink.gif ...but..BUT....I´m heating it myself hahaha.......

*have a coffee...it´s on me*

or do you prefer a Warsteiner? or a Krombacher instead?


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post Feb 14 2005, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(stargelman)
QUOTE(SleepWhilstYouWork)
You have to pay to get into that open area wink.gif

I still think it's rediculous. That thing has cost $475 million already, and that's not enough for that guy? I mean, they're argueing that taking pictures of that thing violates HIS rights... how much does he want? :verysad:

Faithless: "Greed... is the weapon of mass destruction"
That thing is for the people and the people should have it, in one form or the other. I`m sorry I can`t put some really clever argument here, I just think this is c**p and that guy is a greedy owl`s muffin.

p.s. : I *am* allowed to say "Owl`s muffin", right ? kvleft.gif
p.s. 2: Warsteiner is niiiice, thanx Minque !!


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post Feb 14 2005, 12:53 PM
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hello to everyone, and happy valentines day... tongue.gif

does enyone have a information (a rumour will do too) about the release date of Oblivion?
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post Feb 14 2005, 12:57 PM
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does enyone have a information (a rumour will do too) about the release date of Oblivion?

There's neither an official nor unofficial release date.


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post Feb 14 2005, 06:48 PM
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Unofficially, the end of the year-ish. Which probably means in a year or so. biggrin.gif


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post Feb 14 2005, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(milanius)
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You have to pay to get into that open area wink.gif

I still think it's rediculous. That thing has cost $475 million already, and that's not enough for that guy? I mean, they're argueing that taking pictures of that thing violates HIS rights... how much does he want? :verysad:

p.s. : I *am* allowed to say "Owl`s muffin", right ? kvleft.gif


To tell you the truth, we don't have the same censored words as on the Official Forums.
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post Feb 15 2005, 12:42 AM
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I believe copyrighting is a good thing, but you are right, the extent to which certain things are protected does seem a little over the top, put on a little too strong, you might say. However, I know that I would want my work to be given credit even after I died. This is easily achieved though, if a record is made that the idea was first thought up/created by a certain person; it's not to say that it can't be used by others, credit is the most important thing to me. Copyrights seem to be a tool to protect monetary investments and those alone; it doesn't look like anyone cares about anything else.

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post Feb 23 2005, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE(Archeopterix)
Unofficially, the end of the year-ish. Which probably means in a year or so. biggrin.gif


Don't be so unrealistic.

It'll take until July 19, 7209. You and I both know it, lol.
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