Meaning of Life, What do you think about all of this?;D Options

[Fargoth]

Well, I think you have all been wondering about it, so I decided to make a thread about all of it, so I could know other people opinions.

I just think there is no 'we'. We are ONE life form, ONE particle. Some of our parts sometimes die, and sometimes born again. Because If we take a single person, he's nothing, but a bunch of atoms... We all are. And the whole world is. Well we don't know much things about it, but i hope we'll know something soon. Maybe it's for playing this, or just having some fun.

Well, I'm waiting for your opinions, I hope you understood my point.

[stargelman]

It's not what I really believe myself, but there's this very sweet concept that one of the characters in the scifi series Babylon 5 presents.

Basically the idea is that we're made of the same material as all the stars, that we're made of star stuff, and that basically, we're the universe trying to figure itself out by breaking off pieces of it that then try to understand more about everything. I think it's pretty sweet, but personally since I am an atheist I cannot believe there is an actual purpose or meaning to life, as that would imply a grand design like that of a god or God or whatever.

[Ibis]

Well I am the exact opposite of Stargleman then. I believe that Energy and Matter can neither be created nor destroyed .. one just becomes the other and vice-versa, sometimes with slight heat loss, whatever. This means to me that God is and we are ... we are part of Him and He is part of us. There is the Center of Creation and there are all the peripheral parts swirling around .. but it is all the self-same thing.



We breath, therefore we Are.

[Olen]

I've always found the idea of me having a purpose slightly discomforting. I believe we're just a random accident of fate in a meaningless universe and, as the concept of 'meaning' requires awareness and we appear to be the only things sufficently aware to have it, so we can attribute any meaning we fancy. Eat, drink and be merry seems as good as any.

Of course from a more biological and less cosmic viewpoint we're the throw-away vehicles 'used' to carry genetic data from one generation to the next - though time as it were.

[DoomedOne]

Why there is something instead of nothing:

Infinite potential desires to manifest itself.

As far as Oneness and the source of consciousness goes, here are a couple of videos that I found helpful. :

Autopoetic Evolution
This has one of the best esoteric thinkers of our time talking about how in the Eastern religions, God was not a force outside creation, God was creation. Existence starts as pure consciousness, and this consciousness slowly develops and densifies into energy and later matter. Modern western society is ingrained by Christianity and yet has chosen to take God out of all intellectual thought even though his existence is the basis for our entire culture. This is a very, very good interview if you can get over the creepy host.

Global Brain Pt1
Global Brain Pt2
Global Brain Pt3
Global Brain Pt4

These were done in like '82 and the guy claims humanity would reach global thought processes by 2000. Obviously he's wrong. There's other good ideas that make you re-evaluate this thing we call our self. It's also got the best argument I've seen for environmental sustainability wrapped up in the first 10 minutes.

This post has been edited by DoomedOne: Jun 19 2008, 06:47 PM

[Kitchen.Sink]

Life has whatever meaning your mind gives it. The Self is the screen on which the mind projects a fantastic interchange of light and motion, but in the end, the screen itself remains unaffected. It is ignorance that keeps us fixated on the projection and not the pure stillness beneath. The Self is the unchanging, ever-present, infinitude.

You are not the world, since the world will come and go.
You are not your body, since your body will come and go.
You are not your mind, since your mind will come and go.

These three are simply manifestations of ignorance.
Look within. Know thy Self.

[Agent Griff]

I think we'll all find out when we die.

[Dantrag]

...and then it won't matter.

[Agent Griff]

...and then it won't matter.

Yeah, since by then we won't really give a crap about what we've just abandoned.

[Fargoth]

Just watch it. There are some interesting things about religion and stuff.. I liked it. You can skip the beginning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aW2N46vf4Q...feature=related

UPDATE: I just learned, that this is just a cut scene from a movie called "Zeitgeist". I saw it on the internet. Helps you to find The Truth

This post has been edited by Fargoth: Aug 2 2008, 04:05 PM

[DoomedOne]

Lol zeitgeist meant for truth seeking 4 year olds.

[Fargoth]

Lol zeitgeist meant for truth seeking 4 year olds.

Well I agree the film is a bit paranoic, but did you even watch it?

[DoomedOne]

-_- I didn't say it was paranoic, I don't even think that's a word.

I said it's immature. It's simplified, it's sophomoric. It's conclusion jumpage to the 5th degree. The amount of thought and research put into it is equal to a 5th grade history project and it circulates the web as this epic truth revealing movie. Honestly, it doesn't touch the surface of research about Jesus Christ, and the makes a claim he did not exist. Did he ever bother to read a gnostic text? He got the information he wanted off of mythology from wikipedia or something and then made a "great discovery" from it. Religious scholars have known most of the Jesus myth was just a biproduct of a new religion being integrated into an old culture, there's othing new there.

I like part 2 about the Federal Reserve. I guess it can appeal to most people who know nothing about this stuff and get bored easily so they want a simple explanation they can understand like whe Discovery Channel insults M Theory with its disgusting representation meant to shock and mystify but for those of us really trying to learn something about the universe, it's not the way to go.

This post has been edited by DoomedOne: Aug 24 2008, 02:20 AM

[1234king]

Thats a little too much to think about for me. I just think we should live our lives to the best ability that we can and be done with it since we all die anyways.

[DoomedOne]

Well say, if you enjoy thinking about this sort of thing, why not do it? It's no worse than any other way to spend our lives.

[Colonel Mustard]

Does life need a meaning? Or is it just some goal instinctively set by ourselves to try and give our lives some feeling of purpose? Imagine a society with no structure, no goal of any kind to work towards. In a very short time it will break down, as no-one has any purpose.

Though there may be no meaning or purpose to life, searching for one does provide a good psychological 'shield' to feelings of pointlessness or depression.

[DoomedOne]

Actually I find myself much happier now that I know ultimately there can't be a point because ultimately it's gone on forever ad will go on forever. We've all already existed for infinity Quite comforting, really.

This post has been edited by DoomedOne: Sep 10 2008, 11:21 PM

[Colonel Mustard]

Well, each to their own, I guess.

[Kitchen.Sink]

We've all already existed for infinity

We have not existed infinitely. "This" and "that", self and other are all mind-made illusions. Existence exists, and that is all that exists. Know that truth without words, and there will be nothing left to know.