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1234king
post Feb 5 2008, 05:44 AM
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IM TIRED AND TIRED OF TRYING TO FIND NEWS ON A NEW ES GAME. IS THERE ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ANOTHER ES!???


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raggidman
post May 4 2008, 07:22 PM
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I was sort of planning to keep away from this topic, but you got me.

There are Major Mods being attempted to cover all the locations you have described out there.

With the possible exception of Hammerfell they are nowheres near completion because of internal politics, petty jealousies, viciousness etc, getting in the way of properly setting them up.

I will stick to a brief chat on the ones I see as the most approachable


Valenwood is a fascinating mod to attempt because of the Green Pact. Read Dance in the Fire (TIL has it) and you will discover that there are many different kinds of Bosmer. Read more and you will discover that there are beautiful as well as ugly Bosmer. Those with common sense keep well away from Lands where their most sacred customs are reviled or pissed on.

Falinesti in Valenwood is a Mile High City Tree and there are lots of different and new races there. Sadly creating a model of Falinesti that truly corresponds to Lore is very difficult. Technically tell me how you are going to create an in scale MILE HIGH TREE first! There was on model that got near, but had problems.


Black Marsh - wonderful stuff. The first problem there is not the swamps or the flies. First you have to immunise your Non-Argonian players and NPCs against the diseases and poisons that abound there. You could solve one aspect of this by only having Black Marsh native PCs - there are several Intelligent Races there, not just Argonians! Seem to remember there is one other race that has strong poison/disease resistance? But Argonians are immune. And then many of your non-Argonian NPCs are going to catch diseases etc ... tough on them eh?

If you are Argonian/Native then it should be doable/playable from a Lore point of view. You would have to have swamps that suck you in, but also senses capable of detecting them, etc ...

Elsweyr - highly doable and 16 possible player races of Khajiit too!


New Major Mod?
What I would like to do for starters is a Valenwood/Elsweyr Borderlands mod! If you read my little tale then you will begin to see wink.gif Lots of tension loads of opportunity to create quests and skirmishing etc. If anyone is interesting in actually doing such a thing then contact me.

It would require a new and entirely independant Web Site - I have seen what happens when the Administrator and mods come into conflict. And it would require an HTML proficient Designer to set up properly. I do not mean someone who is a professional (makes cash by conning small companies or large into forkin out loads-a dosh for crap) - I am talking about someone who can simply do, when and as, what is needed. If those are on tap then I know where to go to get more folks - see on ...

Then comes the long task of attracting talent. Having great writers as there are on this Forum can be a bonus there, also needed are a deeply competant and inspired: composer; heightmapper; modeller; tex specialist; rigger; animator; quest scripter interior specialist, exterior specialists, language, spoken and written, etc ... these are just a backbone because for all the resources out there that can be lawfully acquired only so much is genuinely well done and you need folks who can do whatever is really needed, not sort of, and so pass on their skills. Sure you will get new talent and you cannot chuck their contributions out just like that. They have to be carefully helped along. Then they can become the backbone of your project/s.

Is that it? Nah - you need people who understand how the graphics software, nifscope, CS etc you are using really works or who can find out and create adjustments so you can get basic stuff done ...

Put all that together ad you have a chance. Whatchergot guys? smile.gif


Oblivion? Cyrodiil is the merchant /speech / politics center of Empire native territory? It should have been the last attempted. No arguing with that. Then you meet all the Lore from all the places you visited there and that would really be the deal.

What happened is doubtless satisfying for people from other platforms as I have never encountered a game as Lore-intensive as TES daggerfall and Morrowind. But in order to include the new platforms they decimated what was there. Paired it down drastically. And produced what should have been sold as a side-game, not as a full TES release. Just like Redguard and Battlespire, which were fine games in their own right.

Oblivion could have been a great pocket in the history of the Scrolls, but they felt they had to sell it to the platforms. And to do that they had to sell it as a full TES release lest 'people' think it was not up to par. As a result I am beginning to question whether the Consoles are genuinely capable of handling a full TES game. Come to think of it are PCs? laugh.gif



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1234king   A New Elder Scrolls   Feb 5 2008, 05:44 AM
Agent Griff   From what I know, Bethesda has trademarked the nam...   Feb 5 2008, 08:23 AM
Lord Revan   Bethesda said their next project was Fallout 3 was...   Feb 5 2008, 02:24 PM
stargelman   I heard some cryptic hints from someone who thinks...   Feb 5 2008, 05:47 PM
Agent Griff   That's where mods come in, Stargelman. Oh, and...   Feb 5 2008, 07:31 PM
milanius   I heard some cryptic hints from someone who think...   Feb 5 2008, 08:17 PM
Agent Griff   If you'll play without mods then you really ha...   Feb 5 2008, 10:11 PM
stargelman   Mods can't fix what I think is wrong with Obli...   Feb 6 2008, 05:09 PM
Kiln   Mods can't fix what I think is wrong with Obl...   Feb 16 2008, 12:45 AM
Daedroth   The story is bleh I don't agree with you ther...   Apr 7 2008, 05:59 PM
LadySaira   [quote name='stargelman' post='102928' date='Feb ...   Apr 7 2008, 08:42 PM
Agent Griff   Oh, you meant those things. Well, yes, from TES st...   Feb 6 2008, 05:36 PM
milanius   ... the lore's been mistreated so bad it...   Feb 6 2008, 10:26 PM
Gaius Maximus   I don't think I'm getting TES V, honestly....   Feb 8 2008, 11:03 PM
Florodine of Hlaalu   Yeah I'm not sure if I would play another TES ...   Feb 20 2008, 07:00 PM
Daedroth   Well, when you say it like that of course Morrowin...   Apr 8 2008, 06:22 AM
LadySaira   Oops, sorry! :( And yeah, this really sould...   Apr 8 2008, 01:56 PM
Daedroth   Don't forget the adoring fan too! BTW, why...   Apr 8 2008, 09:32 PM
Sphinx   I am a recent owner to the Elder scrolls saga . I...   Apr 13 2008, 10:45 AM
Blackdemon   Not Valenwood ! Wood elves are a nuisance in O...   Apr 15 2008, 03:45 PM
GunsnArmor   I don't really think they could make a whole ...   Apr 29 2008, 11:05 PM
Daedroth   I agree with you that woodelves are ugly, but I...   Apr 19 2008, 11:33 PM
stargelman   I agree with you that woodelves are ugly, but I...   Apr 21 2008, 06:56 AM
jack cloudy   As for Black Marsh, I'm afraid Beth can't ...   Apr 20 2008, 10:17 AM
Daedroth   Ahh! I never knew that..   Apr 21 2008, 03:14 PM
Agent Griff   An Elder Scrolls Adventure: Redguard took place on...   Apr 28 2008, 05:58 PM
Oreyn Bearclaw   I just sit idly by waiting for the "good...   May 27 2008, 01:57 PM
Kiln   oh and in the next edition, i'd like to see m...   May 30 2008, 09:19 PM
Rane   [quote name='Oreyn Bearclaw' post='105676' date='...   May 31 2008, 06:16 PM
Kiln   Yeah, only Werewolves and Wereboars were in Dagge...   May 31 2008, 06:27 PM
Arcalin   I'm sorry Guys, nut there will be no more ES. ...   Jul 4 2008, 09:27 PM
minque   I'm sorry Guys, nut there will be no more ES....   Jul 4 2008, 10:24 PM
Rane   A friend of mine work at betesda. Joe, Bob or ...   Jul 5 2008, 02:12 PM
Agent Griff   I don't think Bethesda is prepared to give up ...   Jul 13 2008, 02:41 PM
stargelman   I don't think I'm prepared to let people s...   Jul 13 2008, 09:06 PM
Channler   Ooooo.. I want to be a were-boar... :D   Jul 14 2008, 06:47 AM
kazzchris   new here but if a new one came out i would like a ...   Jul 27 2008, 11:40 PM
Daedroth   I've changed my mind.. You should be able to b...   Jul 30 2008, 09:49 PM
xX Kinzer Xx   I've changed my mind.. You should be able to ...   Jul 30 2008, 10:08 PM
LadySaira   Nah. Too much space, which means they'll have ...   Jul 30 2008, 10:10 PM
gothdayks3   i agree :blink:   Aug 26 2008, 12:40 PM
1234king   For those of you short on ES "geography...   Sep 9 2008, 09:08 AM
Daedroth   What's up with all these Skyrim lovers? Why do...   Sep 12 2008, 07:54 PM
Kiln   I just hope they give alot more care to the plot a...   Sep 13 2008, 03:59 PM
gothdayks3   Oblivion's story was less interesting than a...   Oct 29 2008, 09:59 PM
Ceren Karnal   I would love to see some sort of massive world for...   Sep 15 2008, 05:09 AM
Kiln   Valenwood would be cool, except for the giant spid...   Sep 15 2008, 08:54 AM
Tellie   For all of you ES Lovers (I suppose all of us) the...   Nov 2 2008, 07:12 PM
gothdayks3   well at least their is going to be a new elder scr...   Nov 4 2008, 06:18 PM
Kiln   well at least their is going to be a new elder sc...   Nov 5 2008, 01:16 PM
mplantinga   I'm a little worried about the prospect of a n...   Nov 10 2008, 11:06 PM
bbqplatypus   I think it ought to be set in the Summurset Isles....   Nov 21 2008, 09:23 PM
Lythyum   Have to agree with many people here. Morrowind jus...   Dec 23 2008, 01:20 PM
Badda-Tish   I just came up with an idea that will rock the wor...   Dec 30 2008, 06:43 PM
minque   I just came up with an idea that will rock the wo...   Dec 30 2008, 07:17 PM
Badda-Tish   I just came up with an idea that will rock the w...   Dec 30 2008, 09:30 PM
minque   Yeah ok I understand, it's just that I do not ...   Dec 30 2008, 11:44 PM
The Bean   Personally, I think Bethesda have earned redemptio...   Jan 5 2009, 05:31 PM
bbqplatypus   I certainly hope they move in a slightly more RP-i...   Jan 5 2009, 11:26 PM
minque   Way to go bbq! I totally agree about games wit...   Jan 5 2009, 11:36 PM
Daedroth   Then whats the point?   Jan 6 2009, 06:46 AM
bbqplatypus   Well, I don't want a game entirely WITHOUT act...   Jan 6 2009, 07:01 AM
treydog   I would like to see actions have consequences beyo...   Jan 18 2009, 07:35 PM
Rumple   Hey :) I'm new here; I hope no-one minds me ga...   Jan 23 2009, 01:47 PM
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Illydoor   My request is simple for me. I want the next Elder...   Mar 24 2009, 10:45 PM
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jack cloudy   Just something I thought about after remembering m...   Mar 26 2009, 09:28 PM
Daedroth   That would be awesome! I just hate it when i r...   Mar 26 2009, 10:55 PM
Illydoor   That would be an extremely handy skill, the amount...   Mar 26 2009, 11:01 PM
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jack cloudy   Well I suck at lockpicking as well. Part of it is ...   Apr 20 2009, 09:47 PM
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atom   This is an old topic I came across, but I wanted t...   Jun 1 2009, 05:11 AM
Fiach   This is an old topic I came across, but I wanted ...   Feb 26 2010, 10:41 PM
Verlox   A new kind of setting would be nice. While it seem...   Mar 16 2010, 06:41 PM
Destri Melarg   A new kind of setting would be nice. While it see...   Mar 16 2010, 08:33 PM
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Zalphon   As long as it isn't stupidly cliche and poorly...   Mar 18 2010, 02:12 PM
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Zalphon   That too, Remko.   Mar 18 2010, 02:39 PM
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