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Alexander |
Apr 3 2008, 11:50 AM
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Well, as mentioned, this is the place to discuss anything you want to regarding the competition. For the record, the complete list of rules and a small FAQ; This is an extract from; http://competition.chorrol.comThe Rules 1. Any work entered has to be written by yourself. 2. There is a limit of one entry per writer per category. 3. Any entry has to be a completed work. 4. Any entry has to be written in English. 5. You may, if you wish, enter your story anonymously. 6. Any entry sent in, has to comply with the guidelines listed below 7. The maximum word count listed below, is the absolute maximum. A single word over the maximum will place your story in a different category. 8. Any entry has to be written about The Elder Scrolls universe, non ES related stories will not be allowed to enter. 9. By entering your stories into the contest, you're granting participating fansites the license to use the stories in any way they see fit within the confines of this contest. 10. The final deadline for entering a story in this competition, will be April 30th. Midnight April 30th is the last time for submitting a story. Guidelines for submitting stories 1. All entries are to be sent to the following email address; Competition@chorrol.com 2. Make sure all entries are either in .doc, .txt or .pdf format. 3. Each entry has to be in a separate, but single file. If a story has 30 chapters, please send me all 30 chapters in a single file. 4. Please specify for each entry you're sending; 1. For which category you're entering it and, 2. What name, if any, I should mention wrote it. The Categories Short stories; Can be no longer then 2500 words Medium sized stories; must be longer then 2500 words but no longer then 20000 words Long stories; any story longer then 20000 words falls under this category, this category has no maximum word count. The title of the story and the name of the author do not count toward the maximum word limit. Judges and Judging 1. Each category will be judged by a panel of 3 members of the Elder Scrolls scene. In total there will be nine judges. 2. The panel of judges is pre-selected and will have the final say in everything. 3. All decisions of judges are final and cannot be appealed. 4. In a situation where the above rules do not apply, the ruling of the majority of judges (either in total or for a specific category) will be deciding. 5. Judges are selected before the start of the competition and their names are published on this site. 6. The final results of the competition will be published before June 1st, but if possible, sooner. The judges; Alexander -> Chorrol Apy -> Planet Elder Scrolls B -> The Imperial Library BSD-IES -> Chorrol Dark0ne -> TES Nexus Gstaff -> Bethesda Haplo -> Tamriel Rebuilt Ratwar -> UESP Reaver -> Elderscrolls.net
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HaploTR |
May 26 2008, 12:34 AM
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Technically if you didn't get 1st, you lost, so there are 7 losers and 1 winner, but lets not be so pessimistic. Your story didn't get any points, as it wasn't in any of the three judges' Top 5 list. Points were awarded (0 for 8th through 6th, 2 for 5th place, 4 for 4th place, 6 for 3rd place, 8 for 2nd place, and 10 for 1st place) by each judge to each entry. So entries that didn't make the top five either received zero points or were awarded too few points.
So really, you have more of a right to gripe than that redsrock fellow; he got two whole points more than you.
Regarding your entry: 'A' comes before 'e' in daedra. Normally we don't criticize spelling, but when a word appears throughout a story as much as this one, it should probably be spelled correctly. Your story was somewhat choppy in key places, and often failed to elaborate on many of the points made throughout. I would have liked a more developed plot, personally.
This post has been edited by HaploTR: May 26 2008, 12:36 AM
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May 26 2008, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(HaploTR @ May 25 2008, 04:34 PM) ![*](style_images/tower/post_snapback.gif) Technically if you didn't get 1st, you lost, so there are 7 losers and 1 winner, but lets not be so pessimistic. Your story didn't get any points, as it wasn't in any of the three judges' Top 5 list. Points were awarded (0 for 8th through 6th, 2 for 5th place, 4 for 4th place, 6 for 3rd place, 8 for 2nd place, and 10 for 1st place) by each judge to each entry. So entries that didn't make the top five either received zero points or were awarded too few points.
So really, you have more of a right to gripe than that redsrock fellow; he got two whole points more than you.
Regarding your entry: 'A' comes before 'e' in daedra. Normally we don't criticize spelling, but when a word appears throughout a story as much as this one, it should probably be spelled correctly. Your story was somewhat choppy in key places, and often failed to elaborate on many of the points made throughout. I would have liked a more developed plot, personally.
Thanks for giving me something to chew on. And I was already aware of the aforementioned bits; what I meant was that someone had to come last, in eighth place. Normally I'd agree with the whole "don't take it personally, it's just a game," kind of philosophy, but it just isn't. With all the stories ranked first to eight, I could go back and compare and contrast, but I can't without knowing where I am. Going from just outside the "winners corner" (sixth place) to the bottom is alot of difference. I'll admit something: I started writing only after hearing about the competition. I didn't join this site and the competition for the prizes, but to see where others think I am as a writer. I don't do this for fun, I find the act of typing and writing painful, but because I love the stories, and am planning on writing as a career. When I looked down at the results, I got that drum roll as I dramatically slid the page down. After checking in for a whole month, I'd finally get something. Instead I got nothing. My grin faded as I saw that not only did I not even get fifth in ANY of the three judges picks, but that it ended there: Not even worth a simple #8 Heraldry and Heretics by Steve Wimer. Nothing. It felt like no one had even read my story at all. I can't really say I appreciate the judges holding this competition as it feels like they didn't even read my 49 page story. Which, while yes, as I said, I didn't start till the competition, but I poured my sweat and blood into this thing. I wanted something short (at least for a long catagory) but filled with depth and realism. Two out of three of Haplo's points are spelling and grammatical. I bought a sword so I could feel what real swordplay was like, even inviting some friends over to spar. I did extensive reasearch on both the TES world, and real medieval and Roman times. I even got in a fight at school to feel the real kinetisism of a full-on brawl(not solely for the story, obviously). I spent hours talking to aquantinces to get a taste of real personalities. Obviously the judges must enjoy reading somewhat, otherwise this would have never taken place, so the judges get the benefit of reading my story, and what do I get: A slap in the face. I'm sorry for wasting your time, and my own for something I though might acctually get mentioned. I'm sorry for trying so damn hard. Maybe, in the end my story just sucked, but I cannot see it that way, so I must be blind and stupid. I'm not being dramatic, I'm not crying at my computer as I write this. It's like handing in a 49 page essay to a teacher and getting back... nothing. And failing the class at the end of the year. All I got is this: "What was the point?" I'm not angry or jealous, or anything like that. I am confused ![mellow.gif](style_emoticons/sinders/mellow.gif)
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Alexander Elder Scrolls Community competition Apr 3 2008, 11:50 AM Alexander Q. Can I submit more then one story?
A. Yes, but n... Apr 3 2008, 02:03 PM Olen Exciting... Say I were thinking of reworking the ... Apr 3 2008, 04:25 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) BSD-IES
Exciting... Say I were thinking of reworking the... Apr 3 2008, 05:24 PM redsrock Are we allowed to know who the judges are? Apr 3 2008, 05:50 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) BSD-IES
Are we allowed to know who the judges are?
Look... Apr 3 2008, 06:14 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Alexander
Are we allowed to know who the judges are?
I ju... Apr 3 2008, 07:25 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) redsrock
Thanks, Alex. Apr 3 2008, 07:32 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) Alexander
Thanks, Alex.
Np :) Apr 3 2008, 08:45 PM redsrock Sorry, BSD. I read the original announcement after... Apr 3 2008, 06:20 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) BSD-IES
Sorry, BSD. I read the original announcement afte... Apr 3 2008, 06:33 PM -20-lee-06- Just wondering what kind of criteria the judges wi... Apr 3 2008, 08:54 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) BSD-IES
Just wondering what kind of criteria the judges w... Apr 3 2008, 09:10 PM The Metal Mallet Woo hoo! Time to see how "Bloodlust... Apr 3 2008, 09:33 PM jack cloudy I'm in. Now I've really been neglecting my... Apr 3 2008, 09:43 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) The Metal Mallet
I'm in. Now I've really been neglecting m... Apr 4 2008, 07:46 AM minque Crap! Got a chance to be in on this....and don... Apr 3 2008, 10:43 PM Alexander
Woo hoo! Time to see how "Bloodlust... Apr 3 2008, 11:25 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) redsrock
Perhaps you can come up with a short or medium s... Apr 3 2008, 11:40 PM canis216 I'm doing something almost entirely new, thoug... Apr 4 2008, 01:20 AM Geraldduval so, I had just a quick question. I wrote a story f... Apr 8 2008, 05:29 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) BSD-IES
so, I had just a quick question. I wrote a story ... Apr 8 2008, 06:11 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) minque
I think we're a little nervous about spacesh... Apr 9 2008, 12:31 AM Geraldduval haha, certainly. If one were to pretend that the 3... Apr 8 2008, 06:21 PM 0rimus I just jumped in on this one earlier today with no... Apr 12 2008, 04:55 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) BSD-IES
Can the end date be extended?
No, I'm afrai... Apr 12 2008, 07:09 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Alexander
And names. There are obvious traits of names for... Apr 12 2008, 10:05 AM LeTren Thundakk Can I submit a story that is stand alone, yet othe... Apr 14 2008, 04:44 AM 0rimus I was also wondering about what Thundakk brought u... Apr 14 2008, 04:53 AM Sephary ooooh. interesting. I shall have to see what I com... Apr 14 2008, 07:47 PM Alexander
Can I submit a story that is stand alone, yet oth... Apr 15 2008, 08:46 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) 0rimus
A stand alone story about an existing character,... Apr 16 2008, 12:13 AM LeTren Thundakk That's good to hear, as I sent it in before I ... Apr 15 2008, 05:22 PM 0rimus Okay. It's been awhile and things are for the ... Apr 21 2008, 06:57 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) BSD-IES
Okay. It's been awhile and things are for the... Apr 21 2008, 07:32 AM 0rimus Finished and sent in. Whoooo. Long catagory with 3... Apr 28 2008, 04:09 AM The Metal Mallet I sent in "Bloodlust" today after fixing... Apr 28 2008, 04:14 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) 0rimus
I sent in "Bloodlust" today after fixin... Apr 28 2008, 06:37 AM jack cloudy Sent it in yesterday evening. (Well, it was like h... Apr 28 2008, 08:58 AM The Metal Mallet Yes, Orimus it is. It was a story that I had work... Apr 28 2008, 08:52 PM 0rimus I only got 49 pages, all in size 12 font Times New... Apr 29 2008, 01:55 AM The Metal Mallet Indeed. I wish you the best of luck. Apr 29 2008, 02:02 AM paragenic :salute: Apr 29 2008, 08:47 AM The Metal Mallet well 00 and 24 both are exactly the same, so I don... Apr 29 2008, 08:58 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) paragenic :salute: Apr 30 2008, 10:46 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) Chiglet
well 00 and 24 both are exactly the same, so I d... Apr 30 2008, 11:36 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) paragenic :salute: ... Apr 30 2008, 12:11 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) BSD-IES
Be careful!!! on http://chorrol.com/f... Apr 30 2008, 02:57 PM minque I'll just wish you all good luck! I'm ... Apr 29 2008, 09:01 PM Chiglet Sounds like quite a few stories are being entered ... Apr 30 2008, 06:34 AM 0rimus I've never posted anything anywhere before thi... Apr 30 2008, 06:43 AM Jordy This is all very exciting. It's nice to see su... May 2 2008, 12:33 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) paragenic :salute: May 2 2008, 06:00 AM paragenic :salute: May 2 2008, 05:38 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Chiglet
I get a 404 Not Found when opening http://competi... May 2 2008, 10:06 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) raggidman
I get a 404 Not Found when opening http://competi... May 2 2008, 10:35 AM 0rimus I agree with raggidman, I caught at least two miss... May 3 2008, 06:49 AM raggidman :blink: was suggestin' that even with error... May 3 2008, 11:15 AM Alexander
I get a 404 Not Found when opening [url=http://co... May 3 2008, 06:23 PM 0rimus It's been awhile, how are things going? May 25 2008, 04:56 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Alexander
It's been awhile, how are things going?
Alm... May 25 2008, 06:57 AM Alexander Ok, the results are in;
http://chorrol.com/forums/... May 25 2008, 10:16 AM redsrock Even one didn't win anything, will they still ... May 25 2008, 02:40 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Alexander
Even one didn't win anything, will they still... May 25 2008, 03:01 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) redsrock
Even one didn't win anything, will they stil... May 25 2008, 03:33 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) Alexander
Yes, I most definitely would. Thanks. :)
Medium... May 25 2008, 03:46 PM treydog Wow. Um... I am actually kind of speechless. Fir... May 25 2008, 03:53 PM redsrock Can I see the scoring system on which you judges w... May 25 2008, 04:17 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Alexander
Can I see the scoring system on which you judges ... May 25 2008, 04:40 PM redsrock Yes, please PM me. We have a lot to discuss.... May 25 2008, 04:45 PM Alexander hm, a slight misunderstanding might have occurred,... May 25 2008, 04:59 PM redsrock I'm still not clear. For the long stories, ho... May 25 2008, 05:05 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Alexander
I'm still not clear. For the long stories, h... May 25 2008, 05:09 PM redsrock Oh, I get it. So if one of the judges didn't p... May 25 2008, 05:17 PM Alexander
Oh, I get it. So if one of the judges didn't ... May 25 2008, 05:25 PM redsrock I understand (concerning the last part of your pos... May 25 2008, 05:30 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Alexander
I understand (concerning the last part of your po... May 25 2008, 05:37 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Kiln
I understand (concerning the last part of your po... May 25 2008, 05:37 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) redsrock
but no matter how much you argue the points are n... May 25 2008, 05:41 PM Chiglet <:) :) Congrats to those who won! :) ... May 25 2008, 06:03 PM HaploTR Redsrock -
The entries were judged against each ... May 25 2008, 06:41 PM 0rimus I'd like a PM, I'd also like to see all ei... May 26 2008, 12:03 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) redsrock
So really, you have more of a right to gripe th... May 26 2008, 01:11 AM MstrOfPppts Hi everybody!
I'm Andraž from Sloven... May 26 2008, 12:36 AM Jordy
I'd like a PM, I'd also like to see all e... May 26 2008, 12:55 AM BSD-IES Yeah, of course it does. In all honesty I did incl... May 26 2008, 01:06 AM Jordy Fine, BSD-IES, thanks for the clarification :) May 26 2008, 01:09 AM redsrock Exactly, Orimus. Well said... May 26 2008, 01:17 AM 0rimus
[quote name='0rimus' post='105579' date='May 26 2... May 26 2008, 01:27 AM redsrock Yeah, I totally agree again, Orimus. It's like... May 26 2008, 01:31 AM 0rimus More analogies. You're in court, you state you... May 26 2008, 01:39 AM BSD-IES Oh for God's sake. We can't give you a spe... May 26 2008, 02:03 AM redsrock Yeah, I understand that, BSD, but I still don... May 26 2008, 02:12 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) BSD-IES
Yeah, I understand that, BSD, but I still don... May 26 2008, 02:28 AM redsrock Fine, whatever. I do happen to have respect for yo... May 26 2008, 02:31 AM 0rimus I wrote with no thought of reward. My 90+ hours of... May 26 2008, 02:34 AM![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) BSD-IES
The bridge between daedra and deadra is not so ba... May 26 2008, 02:46 AM![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) 0rimus
The bridge between daedra and deadra is not so b... May 26 2008, 02:51 AM
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