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jack cloudy |
Nov 16 2008, 06:39 PM
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I'll have to study up the events of that period a bit more before I can say anything definite.
Anyway, running with the year 417 and using Olen's short list for now. The way I see it, there will be several factors we could use. If not as part of the story, then maybe just for worldbuilding.
It's only been three years or so since people from the empire entered Vvardenfell enmasse. Seeing how isolationist and traditional most Dunmer are, this leads to some big friction especially since people aren't used to all those foreigners. Now I'd say Balmora is likely to be the most Imperialized city, followed by tourists in Vivec. When you move into Telvanni, Redoran territory, Outlanders become extremely rare.
Speaking of which, I always wondered about the Foreign Canton in Vivec. Till now, I assumed it had been around for decades but if that date is correct, there is no real reason for it to be any older than ten years. Then how was it constructed? I only see two options. Either it is a brand-new Canton, or an older Canton was remodeled and handed over to the foreigners. If so: 1: A newly constructed Canton would be a mayor project, equal to and likely even bigger than a fortress for a high-ranking member in one of the Houses. Then how was it constructed? Now unlike the game where you can get a village-sized Crab/Magic Mushroom/castle plopped down in just a few weeks, I'd say that a timespan in the order of months to years is a more realistic one.
So, did A giant mob of Dunmer/slaves pile bricks on top of each other? Or do we have to assume that Vivec performed a miracle? (Wasn't the cities' origin explained as the spine of some giant beast Vivec had slain or something?) 2: If it was an already existing canton, its original inhabitants would be less than pleased with the news that they have to give their house to some Outlander. This leads to friction again. (Sabotaging efforts against the remodeling crew? Threats against the new inhabitants?)
Because Outlanders are still a new phenomena, instead of the cold reception/open hostility you see in the game, there might be instances where an Outlander is treated as some sort of exotic, rarely spotted animal. As a curiosity, rather than an invader. (Note: This only holds up as long as the outlander in the matter is either alone or with a very small group.)
Beastfolk will pretty much deal with the same issues they dealt with ingame. Namely, being treated as non-sentient slaves whose only reason for existing is as a cheap workforce for the richer Dunmer.
That's it for now. I had more, but I forgot it while typing this down. Silly, I know.
Wait, I do remember this bit. How did Vivec know where Sunder and Keening where hidden? That always felt a bit odd to me though. I seriously doubt he walked in there, saw Sunder/Keening sitting on an altar, then just turned around and walked away while making a note of it. If he had seen it, he would have tried to recapture it. (And most likely Sunder and Keening would have been moved somewhere else again after that attempt fails.)
Though in all fairness and speaking as a gamer, I would have been seriously pissed if Vivec said:"Sorry Nerevar, but I have no idea where to find them. Try all the thousand caves of Vvardenfell, look under every pebble outside, pick every Dreamer's pocket and don't forget to check the rest of Nirn to see if Dagoth Ur didn't ship them off to Akavir. I'll be waiting right here in case you need some advice."
Now either he used some godly power of vision, or he sent in spies or something. (Which also gives a good excuse for why Sunder/Keening is still there. Spies don't have Wraithguard to keep the damn things from killing them after all. Though Dagoth Ur still should have just moved them to his bedroom or something.)
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