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post Mar 22 2009, 10:26 AM
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Ok, so for the unavoidable introduction babble, as most of you know I was rather pleased with Morrowind. I thought it was far better then the dribble I wrote prior to that, and most people seemed to agree with me. After I finished Morrowind I already had an idea for a sequel, I actually wrote the very first chapter of said sequel while I was posting up parts of Morrowind. Unfortunately though, after that first chapter I kind of lost interest. I didn’t think the ideas I had back then were enough to weave an entire story together, and I was probably right.

But as these things have a habit of developing themselves, over the past months I kept thinking back to the sequel, and kept adding ideas to the pile I already had. Now it’s done. I once again enjoyed writing this, and I hope you’ll have similar fun reading it.

As I’ve explained in the past, I’m not very good at making up things like titles, Akatosh knows it took me about as long to come up with the various titles of the chapters as it did to write the entire thing, so I’ve named the story “Cyrodiil” (catchy wot? wink.gif )

Before I end my babbling and get on with posting the story, I once again would like to thank Treydog for agreeing to help with my story as editor, and for fixing the many, many, many grammatical and spelling errors, and placing every comma, semicolon and whatchamacallit in the correct place. And thanks to everyone who ever read Morrowind, and commented. I really enjoy the comments.


Now, while you don’t have to have read Morrowind, I believe in order to get the most out of Cyrodiil, it would be recommended.


So, enough babbling and on to Cyrodiil.


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post Apr 12 2009, 03:42 PM
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I think badda said it.

But to elaborate and point out the parts I thought had most room for improvement (you did ask for comments)...

I think you used the multiple PoVs well, its not a style I normally find works that well but you pulled it off nicely and helped to show the full complexity of the plot. The plot was well thought out and well linked though perhaps could have been better explored in a longer story (and its not often I say that), you built a very good feeling of impending chaos and mystery and I thought paid it off slightly too soon. I liked the political bit very much and its mainly this which i thought would have benefited from expansion. But saying that the fast pace was also most pleasing.

As far as the writing goes it was fine. I can't think whose style it reminds me of but it does remind me of someone. I think the biggest area for improvement would be in the show vs tell region, there were times that I found you told the reader things which might have been better shown though the actions and interactions of the characters. Of course this is a matter of balance and there certainly are times when the speed and simplicity of telling far outweigh the disadvantages, but generally you might consider showing more, at least in my opinion. Having said that though there were no particular infodumps which was a very good thing. I'd say this comment is particularly applicable to the first two parts where, because you were still building the atmosphere and feel, some of the more narrated parts seemed detached and little offputting.

The prose was very readable though, especially once I was into the story (how long was it? that I don't know shows how easy it was to sit and enjoy). I'm not sure I could isolate any one aspect which made it this way, more just the general style and pace (for it was well paced, never dragging its heels but not brushing by things either).

Somewhat linked to my first point I think you paid off all the plots a little too early and that the protagonist's side perhaps won a little to easily. I very much enjoyed the middle with the political manoeuvrings and several plotlines still only slightly linked and would have happily read more of it. There was nothing wrong with doing this but I think you could have given your ending more momentum with a bit more before it. This is a matter of taste of course.

And on matters of taste something which wasn't to mine. Mannimarco not being himself was just a bit confusing, in all honesty I didn't see what that twist added, but perhaps that's just me.

That's all the criticism I have for it really, and a lot is just my own feelings. It was very enjoyable and I look forward to your next piece. Thanks.

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post Apr 12 2009, 04:37 PM
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Thanks a lot for the comments smile.gif

QUOTE(Olen @ Apr 12 2009, 04:42 PM) *


And on matters of taste something which wasn't to mine. Mannimarco not being himself was just a bit confusing, in all honesty I didn't see what that twist added, but perhaps that's just me.


As to this I guess my reasoning was thus;

first off I wanted to create him as far more powerful then he was shown in Oblivion. Reading up on him on the Library and hearing about him as he was pictured in previous games, I knew I had to make him a lot more powerful, which I guess I pulled off.

But then as I was into that storyline, I was wondering what the best way was to finish it, what's the best way for someone to defeat him etc. I already had the major showdown at Bruma, I thought it wouldn't work as well if Relien would defeat the snow demon, and then go on to the "next big fight" in Mannimarco. I guess I've always though one major showdown like that works, but more then one only work if there's suffient amount of time between the two, time which I didn't really have as I didn't want it to drag on longer, and I didn't really have anything else in mind that I could let happen to build up that second showdown.

So I figured, why not have the Mannimarco storyline turn out to be merely a sideline to the real showdown. It would help the Akavirii in creating a diversion, would save Relien from a second big showdown, would give me a way to keep from killing Ocato and those assorted mages I wanted to save etc.

So I guess that's basically what I considered and the reasons I made it the way it was smile.gif


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Alexander   Cyrodiil   Mar 22 2009, 10:26 AM
Alexander   Chapter 1. The end? Or the beginning? Cyrodiil,...   Mar 22 2009, 10:28 AM
Olen   Yay! :panic: This was good, I'll have t...   Mar 22 2009, 01:29 PM
redsrock   I like how you start at the end of the game, rathe...   Mar 22 2009, 04:37 PM
Alexander   I'm sorry if you find my critique harsh or n...   Mar 22 2009, 05:38 PM
Alexander   Chapter 2. Aftermath. Walking through the aisles ...   Mar 22 2009, 07:40 PM
The Bean   Hmm, an interesting start, especially with the Ner...   Mar 22 2009, 09:30 PM
Alexander   Hmm, an interesting start, especially with the Ne...   Mar 22 2009, 09:37 PM
The Bean   I see. I still want hellish torment, you understa...   Mar 22 2009, 09:45 PM
Olen   I like the second part, and unlike Beanie (sorry b...   Mar 22 2009, 09:55 PM
The Bean   Fair enough Olen-each to their own and all that. J...   Mar 22 2009, 10:37 PM
redsrock   Second chapter was very nice. I know the theme of ...   Mar 22 2009, 11:02 PM
Alexander   When she entered the lobby, fortunately all she sa...   Mar 23 2009, 07:41 AM
Olen   Good update, the plot is already thinkening well. ...   Mar 23 2009, 06:17 PM
Alexander   Before I post the next part which is the start of ...   Mar 23 2009, 07:53 PM
Badda-Tish   I first thought the man in the black robe was a ne...   Mar 23 2009, 08:19 PM
minque   Oh....just noticed this! But then again I...   Mar 24 2009, 06:22 AM
Alexander   Countess Arriana Valga was seated comfortably in h...   Mar 24 2009, 07:37 AM
Alexander   Chapter 4. Plans are made. Baurus was standing ne...   Mar 24 2009, 06:58 PM
Badda-Tish   Can´t wait for the next chapter, you must write so...   Mar 24 2009, 07:35 PM
Olen   This is excellent, everything morrowind was and mo...   Mar 25 2009, 01:19 AM
redsrock   I'm halfway through chapter three and I'm ...   Mar 25 2009, 02:04 AM
Alexander   Back in her chambers at the All-Saints Inn Countes...   Mar 25 2009, 07:42 AM
Alexander   Chapter 5. opportunity? Ocato couldn’t believe i...   Mar 25 2009, 06:25 PM
Alexander   With cold sweat on his face, Ocato startled awake ...   Mar 26 2009, 07:56 AM
Badda-Tish   I need more... more... This is really great and ve...   Mar 26 2009, 03:57 PM
Alexander   Chapter 6. If at first you don’t succeed. Arriana...   Mar 26 2009, 09:06 PM
Alexander   “You have something to add to the voting, Count Um...   Mar 27 2009, 07:01 AM
Olen   Oooh lots of updates. Awsome as ever. I like the...   Mar 27 2009, 11:20 AM
Alexander   Chapter 7 Dealings with the Brotherhood. The way...   Mar 27 2009, 07:27 PM
minque   Alex....really...Do I need to comment? Because you...   Mar 27 2009, 09:13 PM
Alexander   Baurus found himself looking at the gate. Two guar...   Mar 28 2009, 11:01 AM
Alexander   Chapter 8. Tired and angry, Filben rounded a cor...   Mar 28 2009, 08:02 PM
Alexander   Getting back to the Imperial city the following af...   Mar 29 2009, 11:12 AM
Olen   I think you know what I'm about to say... Gre...   Mar 29 2009, 12:52 PM
Alexander   Chapter 9 Morrowind revis(it)ed. Morrowind in re...   Mar 29 2009, 10:23 PM
Alexander   Galom Daeus turned out to be a great disappointmen...   Mar 30 2009, 06:36 AM
Burnt Sierra   Wha??!! My computer breaks down, I'm ...   Mar 30 2009, 02:29 PM
Alexander   Wha??!! My computer breaks down, I'm...   Mar 30 2009, 04:24 PM
Alexander   Chapter 10 An unlikely meeting. Lady Barenziah wa...   Mar 30 2009, 06:53 PM
Alexander   Traveling to Ebonheart had felt unusual to Ocato. ...   Mar 31 2009, 07:54 AM
Alexander   Chapter 11. More puzzles. Early the next morning...   Mar 31 2009, 06:33 PM
Alexander   Early the next morning, Baurus found Relien as he ...   Apr 1 2009, 06:40 AM
Alexander   Chapter 12. Betrayal. Chancellor Ocato, Grandmast...   Apr 1 2009, 05:06 PM
Olen   This is excellent, but the cliffhanger. I need to...   Apr 1 2009, 07:37 PM
Alexander   At an unseen sign there came a lull in the battle ...   Apr 2 2009, 06:54 AM
Alexander   Chapter 13 The journey to Bruma had been uneventf...   Apr 2 2009, 08:35 PM
Alexander   The only stop Filben made on her journey to Kvatch...   Apr 3 2009, 05:55 AM
Alexander   Chapter 14. Dealing with Daedra Baurus was pacing...   Apr 3 2009, 06:09 PM
Alexander   Baurus had no way to describe the journey he made....   Apr 4 2009, 09:19 AM
Olen   Excellent. I liked it, exciting and fast moving a...   Apr 4 2009, 05:05 PM
Alexander   Chapter 15. Disclosure. Once the captured Argonia...   Apr 4 2009, 06:55 PM
Alexander   The rest of the trip to the Imperial city went wit...   Apr 5 2009, 01:35 PM
Alexander   Chapter 16. Failure? Arriana was troubled. She wa...   Apr 5 2009, 05:28 PM
Alexander   Endgame. Baurus, Relien and Varvur felt disorient...   Apr 6 2009, 06:35 AM
Alexander   Countess Arriana Valga was excited. She had just w...   Apr 6 2009, 03:57 PM
Alexander   Looking around him, Ocato saw the faces of all his...   Apr 6 2009, 10:58 PM
Alexander   Count Janus Hassildor, Count Corvus Umbranox and L...   Apr 7 2009, 07:39 AM
Olen   This remains most enjoyable. Good stuff. In the ...   Apr 7 2009, 01:01 PM
Alexander   Back at the Imperial Palace, Baurus found himself ...   Apr 7 2009, 05:32 PM
Alexander   Janus Hassildor, Corvus Umbranox and Balen Sarethi...   Apr 8 2009, 07:39 AM
Alexander   After a strange sensation of weightlessness, Bauru...   Apr 8 2009, 06:06 PM
Alexander   Ocato felt the sweat running down his face. At lea...   Apr 9 2009, 07:48 AM
Alexander   Baurus had lost track of the number of spells that...   Apr 9 2009, 04:15 PM
Alexander   It seemed there was no stopping the zombies. Riddl...   Apr 10 2009, 05:52 AM
Alexander   A number of Telvanni had been rounding up the rema...   Apr 10 2009, 10:25 AM
Olen   Good stuff, nothing is as it seems... I like :) ...   Apr 10 2009, 12:11 PM
Alexander   Ocato didn’t understand why he didn’t feel anythin...   Apr 10 2009, 03:25 PM
Alexander   They did not wait long for the coronation. After h...   Apr 10 2009, 03:25 PM
Alexander   Well that's the last one. I hope everyone enjo...   Apr 10 2009, 03:29 PM
Badda-Tish   It was awesome.   Apr 10 2009, 08:36 PM
mplantinga   Thank you very much for this story. I haven't ...   Apr 12 2009, 07:21 PM
Burnt Sierra   Well, I'm exceedingly late in replying, but be...   Jul 5 2009, 09:04 AM
Alexander   Thanks guys :) And I hope Dawn wasn't too m...   Jul 7 2009, 07:33 PM
Burnt Sierra   And I hope Dawn wasn't too mad Jon ;) She go...   Jul 8 2009, 05:33 PM
Alexander   And I hope Dawn wasn't too mad Jon ;) She g...   Jul 8 2009, 05:41 PM
RavenMind   Wow. That was a fantasic read Alexander. Thanks ve...   Jul 17 2009, 12:35 AM
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