The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Official announcement Options

[Thomas Kaira]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/vga-10-e...708369?type=flv

Projected release: 11/11/11

It's coooommmming!

And with dragons at last!

This post has been edited by Thomas Kaira: Dec 13 2010, 01:40 AM

[Kiln]

The more I hear about Skyrim the more I feel that its been gutted. Maybe its just that I was spoiled with the depth that Morrowind had but Skyrim sounds like a pretty shallow game.

I'm sure some of you don't agree with me and I'm hoping that Bethesda proves me wrong but I've got a feeling its going to be more simplified that Oblivion.

[Helena]

The more I hear about Skyrim the more I feel that its been gutted. Maybe its just that I was spoiled with the depth that Morrowind had but Skyrim sounds like a pretty shallow game.

I have to agree with this. Not that I have much interest in the series any more since they pulverised Morrowind, but what I've seen and heard of Skyrim so far does nothing to change my mind. Let's see: fewer skills. Level-scaling. Yet another cut-and-paste "save the world from INSERT EVIL HERE" plot. Randomised missions (honestly, that in itself would be more than enough to put me off the game). Starting off in prison AGAIN. Working with the Blades AGAIN.

I wish they'd ditch all the stuff about rampaging dragons and demon invaders, and return to the 'low-fantasy' style of Daggerfall and Morrowind. (Okay, so Morrowind technically had a "save the world from EVIL" plot, but it was very slow-burn and the saving-the-world part didn't really kick in until right at the end.) A game set just after the Empire's collapse could have been really interesting, but instead they choose to ignore all the possibilities and just skip forward a couple of centuries. What's the betting that in 200 years, everything will be back to 'normal' and the events of previous games - not to mention the pointless destruction of Morrowind - will just be vague backstory?

[Captain Hammer]

I wish they'd ditch all the stuff about rampaging dragons and demon invaders, and return to the 'low-fantasy' style of Daggerfall and Morrowind. (Okay, so Morrowind technically had a "save the world from EVIL" plot, but it was very slow-burn and the saving-the-world part didn't really kick in until right at the end.) A game set just after the Empire's collapse could have been really interesting, but instead they choose to ignore all the possibilities and just skip forward a couple of centuries. What's the betting that in 200 years, everything will be back to 'normal' and the events of previous games - not to mention the pointless destruction of Morrowind - will just be vague backstory?

Ah, the Infernal City? I am praying to Julianos and Magnus that the book's canonicity has been scrapped and the whole blunder attributed to the influence of Sheogorath.

I am also upset with the further skill reduction, since it means fewer things for me to be awesome at, and what seems to be a decision to forego Oblivion's useful ability of being able to hold a shield, mace, and cast spells all at the same time. One significant improvement over Morrowind was the magic system, and the ability to shoot off spells without having to switch off was a big part of that.

This post has been edited by Captain Hammer: Jan 18 2011, 06:34 PM

[Helena]

Ah, the Infernal City? I am praying to Julianos and Magnus that the book's canonicity has been scrapped and the whole blunder attributed to the influence of Sheogorath.

I'm just ignoring it altogether, personally.

I agree about the instant-casting in Oblivion. IMO that was one of the very few areas where Oblivion actually improved on Morrowind (and I played OB first, so that's not just nostalgia speaking). But yeah... I've read some of those "what should TESV be like?" threads on the official Bethesda forums. It's like the devs read them through carefully, and then decided to do the exact opposite.

[Thomas Kaira]

But yeah... I've read some of those "what should TESV be like?" threads on the official Bethesda forums. It's like the devs read them through carefully, and then decided to do the exact opposite.

No, they listen... maybe not to the right crowd, but they do listen.

It all seems to come down to the consoles nowadays when it comes to deciding what to put into a game, and it's no different with Skyrim it seems. What do console players want?

-sPl0s1ons!!1!11!!!11!eleventyone!
-Dragons
-Lotsa blood

Basically anything that prevents the game from being remotely interesting and unique just so they can massage that massive superiority complex that is contracted to all Xbox 360 fanboys (which though I have thankfully managed to avoid).

TES5 is still going to be so much better than most of the dreck that exists today (see Call of Duty, Activision's cash cow interactive motion picture... come on guys, just make the damn movie already), but it still saddens me that such a group who has absolutely no clue about what makes a great game is exercising so much influence over the developers. It's getting to the point where the lines between genres are becoming blurred. If this keeps up, I forsee a second Great Video Game Crash occuring because all the originality was stripped from the market, all in the desire to appeal to as many people as possible.

Really, you don't need to fix what ain't broke, and Morrowind sure wasn't broke. I don't understand why Bethesda is ignoring the fact that Morrowind is STILL selling copies even a decade after release and taking the frapping hint. We LIKE our TES games to be rich, expansive, and customizable; not hacky-slashy dungeon-divey five minutes of fun before the console goes off.

The way I see it, what they did to the levelling was completely unnecessary. All that was needed was to keep it as it was, develop an in-house GCD variant, and done! Instead we get even fewer skills, NO class system whatsoever, and a recycled Fallout perk system (although, I do tend to agree with this one).

If they do to the dragons what they did to the Oblivion Gates, I will chuck my 360 out my bedroom window.

I guess it's all we can hope for that their new "Radiant Story" doesn't end up another cop-out like the last time they tried "Radiant" technology.

OK, rant over.

This post has been edited by Thomas Kaira: Jan 19 2011, 04:56 AM