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ghastley
post Feb 12 2011, 07:58 PM
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Most of the threads in this forum are naturally about "my character's adventures in a TES world", and the rest are meta-threads about writing them.

I'm coming from a completely different direction, or maybe not. I'm trying to create quest mods for Oblivion with a whole lot of NPC's who have linked stories, and I need all the help I can get with those. It's not entirely a different problem from writing the support cast in a regular FF, but it does leave out the central character, who will be the player, and I don't want to write that one.

I like to build a character in Oblivion and play it for a while before making an NPC from it, as this helps to give me some idea of how a pure mage thinks, or an archer, or an axe-wielding Orc, and I can make the NPC more credible that way. I'm currently playing a stereotypical big dumb blonde Nord called Hidy Heidi, who aspires to joining the Imperial Mountain Riders and patrolling the Jerrals on a white bear. I started her off trying to use poisoned daggers and stealth, but found that it's not too viable at low levels, because the damage she could inflict was never enough for a one-hit kill, and using a dagger put her too close for comfort in the remainder of the encounter. So she switched to a Claymore to better use her Blade skill, although she still tries a sneak attack with a dagger first, some of the time. She'd probably use the Claymore if she got a bear to ride, so maybe it's for the best.

This experience now has to be distilled down to some dialog for the NPC in-game, and that of her colleagues, and that's the sort of thing I'd want to post here for criticism and advice. And the content of books, notes, journal entries for the quests. Many of you have experience of rewriting bits of lore for your narratives, or fitting a new piece into the incomplete jigsaw puzzle Betheda provided, so I know it will help me if it works.

Heidi is intended to become part of this mod, of which only the first two quests have been released as a beta. I have another dozen or so in development, including an arc of quests that happen after the player is both CoC and Madgod, based on the idea of Dagon taking revenge on the player by opening gates in his/her new realm.



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post Mar 6 2011, 03:19 AM
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A picture may be worth a thousand words, but I feel I owe a few words again.

This introduces the last of the regular Riders, a Dunmer called Ystrel, who is given a patrol in the Valus Mountains. Again, most of the dialog with the Hero comes straight from the game.

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Ystrel's Tale

The Hero of Kvatch paid a visit to the new Riders' Lodge, to see what came of his dealings with the High Chancellor. Magnus, the barkeep, sent him up the stairs to introduce himself to Gudrun, the new Captain.

"Well met," she beamed, sensing that this was someone she should get to know. "I gather we have you to thank for getting Ocato interested in the Mountain Riders. We wouldn't have this place if you hadn't found that book for him."

The Hero couldn't help noticing that Gudrun's version of the Riders' uniform was even more revealing than the lesser ranks'. When he met her eyes again, she remarked that it was all part of the recruiting effort. It was her job to project the glamour of the job, not the dangers and the arduous conditions of the patrols. The well-appointed Lodge was part of that same plan. It also served to keep up the morale of the Riders.

Gudrun was happy to admit that she was making the most of the opportunity. As a Nord, she didn't regard Bruma as particularly cold, and she had a nice comfortable office indoors anyway.She got to pick her own furnishings, recruit her own staff, and the duties were light. She really only had to look good, and accept any applications to join from suitable candidates.

"And talking of recruits", she said, "we found one already. She's gone through her training. The Legion let her have a few days off to go back to her home town before she reported here."

High Chancellor Ocato had asked her to set up patrols in the Valus Mountains, as well as the Jerrals. She wasn't sure if it would work out. There's no snow in those mountains, so wouldn't they need brown bears? Well, the first step was to get someone from the area.

"Ystrel should have been here two days ago. If you're heading to Cheydinhal, could you ask if anyone there knows where she is?" the Captain concluded.

The Hero was indeed headed in that direction, so he agreed to Gudrun's request.

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The Hero described Ystrel to the guard at Cheydinhal's West gate. He remembered her armor, at least. "The girl in the strange uniform? I heard she got tossed into jail. Ask Dervera Romalen about it, over at the Newlands Lodge. She'll tell you all about it."

The Lodge was right there by the gate, so that was easy. The Dunmer innkeeper remembered her somewhat better than the guard had. "Yes, she was in here for a drink the other night. Spent her last Septim on wine, and then some stupid Orc tried to fondle her buns. Got himself slapped right out the door onto the street! She's got a really nice backhander, that one!" laughed Dervala.

Then a frown came over her face "The guards put her in jail for that."

Several of the other people in the town told him tales of the fines the guards were levying these days, so it wasn't hard to figure out that Ystrel just hadn't been able to pay. In that case, getting her out should be simple enough.

The fine was more than he expected. Weren't fines supposed to be the same across the whole of Cyrodiil? He'd have to find out more about that later. The guard opened her cell and let her out.

She confirmed Dervala's account. "I was in the Newlands Lodge having 'one for the road' on my way out of town. I'd just spent my last bit of gold on some wine, when an Orc took my skimpy uniform as an invitation. I gave him such a backhander, he went flying out the door into the street! But that brought the guards in. They usually don't care what happens inside the bar, but when it gets outside, they take action. Everyone said it was the Orc's fault, even he admitted that, but the guards said I hit him, so it was a fine or jail for me. Since I'd just spent all my money, here I am."

"And you should be in Bruma" he reminded her. "Get your uniform on, we need to go".

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Back outside Bruma, Gudrun was waiting for them. "Good, you've brought Ystrel just in time to meet her bear. He just arrived from Skyrim. We should go out and get them together right away!"

They all went out to the side of the lodge, where a white bear was waiting. It sniffed at Ystrel, and backed away from her.

"I have a problem" said Ystrel."The bear won't let me get onto his back. He seems to understand I'm Legion, but he doesn't think I'm a proper Rider."

The Hero had noticed the bear sniffing at her, and thought he might know the problem. First he asked Gudrun what she liked to eat. "Beef, Onions and Potatoes, washed down with a good beer. Of course, I have to watch how much of that I eat, or get more exercise."

Ystrel's answer confirmed his suspicions. "Ham and cheese, with lettuce, tomato and a loaf of bread. I prefer a wine with it, but it doesn't have to be anything special, like Tamika's. But I'm not really choosy, that's just what I was brought up on."

He explained to Gudrun that bears have a keen sense of smell, and Ystrel just didn't smell like the Nords he was used to. You are what you eat, and Ystrel hadn't been eating the Nord diet, so her scent was ... foreign.

"So you're saying that bears want their riders to smell of stale beer and radish farts?" asked Gudrun "That's what most of the men around here smell like."

The Hero pointed out that a woman wasn't going to smell like a man, any more than a Dunmer would have the same scent as a Nord.

"So we just need to feed Ystrel the local diet for a while, you think? Couldn't we just get her to dab some Ale behind her ears?" Gudrun pondered a monent "We'll do both!"

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A week later, he was passing Bruma again and looked in at the Lodge. He met Gudrun first.

"We had Ystrel eat like a Nord, drink like a Nord, and sleep with a Nord" she told him "Actually that last part was her idea. She is a Dunmer, after all. But finally the bear likes her. Let's hope he doesn't think the Valus Mountains smell strange!"

Gudrun smiled broadly. "Go talk to Ystrel, I think she has something for you."

The Hero walked into the bar to find Ystrel sitting at a table with a mug of ale, rather than her usual wine. "There's more to that scent thing than I realized. After a few days of Nord diet, the Nord men seemed a lot more attractive than before. I mean, more than just a few days without would account for. I hope it hasn't put me off everyone else! Anyway, I think I owe you something for all your help. I hope you like this!".

Ystrel handed him one of the toy bears. Somehow, it was just the right reward.

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Note: Although Gudrun mentions needing brown bears for the Valus patrols, they're only training white ones, so that's what arrived from Skyrim.


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ghastley   Does this thread belong here?   Feb 12 2011, 07:58 PM
ghastley   As an example of what I'd like to post for you...   Feb 12 2011, 08:14 PM
haute ecole rider   Just one little nit for me regarding the bit of bo...   Feb 12 2011, 08:23 PM
ghastley   Good point. This is a manual, so it probably needs...   Feb 12 2011, 08:43 PM
SubRosa   I echo h.e.r.'s comment on girls. It makes the...   Feb 12 2011, 08:45 PM
ghastley   The weapon was dictated originally by the picture ...   Feb 12 2011, 08:56 PM
Ahrenil   Hmm, one problem the riders may have is the fact ...   Feb 13 2011, 01:06 AM
Ahrenil   Woops double post.   Feb 13 2011, 01:06 AM
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ghastley   OK, time to try my hand at a bit of what the forum...   Feb 27 2011, 03:56 AM
mALX   Interesting and intriguing !!! WOO HO...   Feb 27 2011, 04:06 AM
Acadian   This is fabulous. You develop Unna a great deal i...   Feb 27 2011, 04:28 AM
ghastley   @mALX : The start's the easy part, it will be ...   Feb 27 2011, 09:04 PM
SubRosa   That was a nice little piece introducing Claudia. ...   Feb 27 2011, 09:12 PM
Acadian   Another great little story that gives folks a very...   Feb 28 2011, 02:30 AM
ghastley   @Acadian: I see what you mean about running them t...   Feb 28 2011, 03:43 AM
mALX   What I find most exciting about this is that at so...   Feb 28 2011, 04:42 AM
ghastley   The first two tales in this short series featured ...   Mar 2 2011, 01:24 AM
SubRosa   Another nice little piece about Svana and Palla. T...   Mar 2 2011, 01:45 AM
mALX   Another nice little piece about Svana and Palla. ...   Mar 2 2011, 02:57 AM
Acadian   Nice background-building on the bear riders, and p...   Mar 2 2011, 03:21 AM
ghastley   @SubRosa: That's the in-game dialog that they ...   Mar 2 2011, 04:27 AM
Cardboard Box   This conversation does take place on a bleak, snow...   Mar 3 2011, 01:01 AM
Grits   I have enjoyed the persistent image of a strapping...   Mar 3 2011, 01:47 AM
ghastley   To help with the persistent images. I'll try a...   Mar 3 2011, 02:37 AM
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Thomas Kaira   We-heh-ell.... I know the Nords love the cold but...   Mar 3 2011, 03:17 AM
ghastley   Well I guess that means the link worked. She wea...   Mar 3 2011, 04:49 AM
mALX   Well I guess that means the link worked. She we...   Mar 3 2011, 06:37 AM
ghastley   ...and how in the world you thought of all this.....   Mar 3 2011, 04:15 PM
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ghastley   Academic airhead is a great description. Heidi...   Mar 3 2011, 04:45 PM
mALX   Academic airhead is a great description. Heidi...   Mar 3 2011, 04:55 PM
Acadian   Academic airhead is a great description. Heidi...   Mar 3 2011, 05:35 PM
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King Coin   DLed the beta. LETS DO THIS   Mar 9 2011, 05:15 AM
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King Coin   It will probably be a while before my character wa...   Mar 9 2011, 05:42 PM
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