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ghastley
post Feb 12 2011, 07:58 PM
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Most of the threads in this forum are naturally about "my character's adventures in a TES world", and the rest are meta-threads about writing them.

I'm coming from a completely different direction, or maybe not. I'm trying to create quest mods for Oblivion with a whole lot of NPC's who have linked stories, and I need all the help I can get with those. It's not entirely a different problem from writing the support cast in a regular FF, but it does leave out the central character, who will be the player, and I don't want to write that one.

I like to build a character in Oblivion and play it for a while before making an NPC from it, as this helps to give me some idea of how a pure mage thinks, or an archer, or an axe-wielding Orc, and I can make the NPC more credible that way. I'm currently playing a stereotypical big dumb blonde Nord called Hidy Heidi, who aspires to joining the Imperial Mountain Riders and patrolling the Jerrals on a white bear. I started her off trying to use poisoned daggers and stealth, but found that it's not too viable at low levels, because the damage she could inflict was never enough for a one-hit kill, and using a dagger put her too close for comfort in the remainder of the encounter. So she switched to a Claymore to better use her Blade skill, although she still tries a sneak attack with a dagger first, some of the time. She'd probably use the Claymore if she got a bear to ride, so maybe it's for the best.

This experience now has to be distilled down to some dialog for the NPC in-game, and that of her colleagues, and that's the sort of thing I'd want to post here for criticism and advice. And the content of books, notes, journal entries for the quests. Many of you have experience of rewriting bits of lore for your narratives, or fitting a new piece into the incomplete jigsaw puzzle Betheda provided, so I know it will help me if it works.

Heidi is intended to become part of this mod, of which only the first two quests have been released as a beta. I have another dozen or so in development, including an arc of quests that happen after the player is both CoC and Madgod, based on the idea of Dagon taking revenge on the player by opening gates in his/her new realm.



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post Mar 31 2011, 01:24 AM
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I'm experiencing "Modder's Block" at the moment. I have a quest for the player to fetch some water from the Grove of Reflection at Milchar, but I just can't decide what the problem will be with the apparently simple fetch task. So to distract myself for while I've written up the next tale from the earlier part of the story, as that seems to be well-settled now.

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Heidi's Tale

"Would you believe it? I have a recruit!" exclaimed Gudrun. "Her name is Heidi, and she comes from just over the border in Skyrim. But why don't you let her tell you her story, and see if you think she'll make a good Rider for us. I'd like a second opinion."

Heidi was siiting on the bench near the corner. A Nord as tall and as blonde as Gudrun, a little less tanned, but conspicuously top-heavy to more than make up for it. She stood up and walked over.

"Hi! I'm Heidi. They all call me 'Hidy' Heidi, because everyone notices me, especially the men. I've always wanted to be a Bear Rider, and when I heard that they were recruiting, I came here to apply". She paused briefly before continuing. "I haven't done much riding. I feel wobbly when I'm up on a horse, but bears are wider, aren't they? And I'm really good with a claymore. My Blade teacher says I'm a natural swordswoman. It's just something I can do without thinking about it. Which is good, because I think slower than most."

He asked about the 'thinking slowly' part, and she did so, before replying "Yes, that's my only problem with joining. I don't have good academic qualifications, because I don't do well in exams. It's all because I don't have enough time. I don't get the answers wrong, but I don't finish enough to get good marks. It also means I can't do much magic, because I can't think of the right spell fast enough. Healing is my best, because I can take my time."

She brightened up a little as she added "And I have a good memory for what people say to me, even if I don't understand it at first. That lets me think it over until I do."

Gudrun seemed to think that she might not be right for patrol duties, as you needed to think quickly for that. "I can't see us squeezing her into the regulation cuirass either, although half the Legion would volunteer to help us try!" But it didn't matter, there were other jobs she could do.

It appeared that Gudrun had already decided, and a second opinion wasn't required.

Heidi wanted to know what she would be wearing, if the regular uniform wouldn't fit.

"With her Blade skill, she doesn't need armor so much as support and restraint." Gudrun reasoned "And nothing's better for that than good strong steel. Gin-Wulm in the Market District should be able to make her something like mine, ... only roomier.''

Gudrun gave Heidi a note to take to Gin-Wulm that would authorize him to make a custom uniform, and send the bill to the Legion. "He made mine, so he'll know what's needed".

Heidi headed off across town and went into the Best Defense to find Gin-Wulm. Despite offers of help from both his assistants, the Argonian Master Armorer took her measurements himself. He pulled a pair of boots from a rack and had her try them on.

"Good, that's one item we won't have to make specially for you."

The rest would have to be uniquely crafted, but only the cuirass would take any significant work. She should return in a day, and they would have something ready for her to try on.

Leaving the shop, she paused outside the door and looked around. She could either return to the Waterfront and spend another night at the Bloated Float, or she could look for an Inn here in the Market District. That would save her walking all the way across the city and back, but she didn't really know this area well. She'd have to ask the Legion Guard for directions to an Inn.

Before she could reach the guard post at the gate, however, a well-dressed man came up to her. "I haven't seen you around here before." he said. "Are you new in town?"

Heidi replied that she was, to this part at least, and she was looking for the nearest Inn, so she could rent a bed for the night.

"I was just on my way there for a drink," he said "Let me buy you one, and I'll take you there."

Heidi smiled to herself. This wasn't the first time she'd been invited to the tavern for a drink, and it wouldn't be the last. She decided to make the most of the situation. "Lead on".

At the Market Inn, Velus Hosidius showed them to a table in the corner. "Since he's paying, I won't ask for Tamika's 399" she joked, "just an ale will do". The man ordered the same, and they sat down together and started to chat.

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The table was full of empty bottles, and they were the only ones left in the bar. Heidi raised her mug, and drank the last of her ale. When she lowered it again, the man had disappeared. Standing up, she walked around the table to find him lying on the floor next to his chair.

"I'll be needing a room for the night" she announced to Velus "And I'll pay for that myself, since he won't be sharing." She passed across the twenty drakes for the room, and walked up the stairs, with only the slightest unsteadiness.

Velus watched her appreciatively and chuckled. It's not easy to out-drink a Nord, but the fool had tried it anyway. He'd spent a lot more than he'd expected in the process, without getting anything but tomorrow's hangover.

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As she sat eating a sweetroll the next morning, Heidi was thinking about something strange the man had said. He was slurring his words a lot by then, and his small-talk wasn't really worth listening to, but she had heard "dawn is breaking". That made no sense to her, and she resolved to ask Gudrun about it when she got back to the office with her uniform.

It was nearly time to go over to the Best Defense and check on their progress. She needed to buy a sword as well, so her first stop was at "A Fighting Chance", just next door to the Inn. She told Rohssan that she needed a Silver weapon. "Legion standard?" she asked.

"Yes," replied Heidi, "but I need a claymore, not a longsword. It's for the Mountain Riders"

Rohssan showed her a selection, and she picked one that was slightly longer than the others. It felt well-balanced, and as she swung it a few times, Heidi knew that this was the right choice.

"Looks like you're handy with a blade" Rohssan remarked. "Not many are that quick with a two-hander."

Despite the flattery, Heidi haggled hard and got a good price. Then she set off across the street to the Best Defense.

Gin-Wulm had not only made her armor already, but it fit perfectly without needing any adjustment. The steel he'd used was thin and light, with a slight blue sheen. It had a comfortable lining built in, so she wouldn't need to wear anything underneath it. The lower half was somewhat minimal, but she wouldn't get arrested. Not that there was a lot to the top if you took off the pauldrons, but it provided all the support she needed.

It would need to be enchanted as well, or even a Nord like her would feel the cold, and that would provide further magical defense. She'd have to take it to the Chironasium at the Arcane University for that, but Gudrun hadn't provided the orders yet. Thanking Gin-Wulm again for his efforts, she headed back to the Waterfront.

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Back at the office, Heidi told Gudrun and the Hero of Kvatch about the events of the previous evening. He recognized the phrase "Dawn is Breaking" and asked her to accompany him back to the Inn to look for the man. On the way he told her what he knew about the Mythic Dawn and their plot.

Velus Hosidius at the Merchants Inn remembered Heidi, but not the man she was with. He'd had his back to the bar, and Velus had been more intent on watching Heidi anyway. After Heidi had gone upstairs, the stranger had been carried out by two other men. Velus didn't recognize any of them. "At least they paid," he remarked.

No-one else remembered the man. Heidi had drawn everyone's attention, and he'd gone almost unnoticed. The trail had gone cold. Back to the Waterfront.

"We'd better keep looking for him. Heidi can stay here and take over the recruiting duty as her cover." Gudrun had the beginnings of a plan. "It will leave her plenty of time to look around the city in case the agent re-appears. Besides, I've done all the shopping I need to for a while. It's her turn!"

So Heidi moved in to the Waterfront office, and Gudrun headed back to Bruma, with another collection of bags.

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ghastley   Does this thread belong here?   Feb 12 2011, 07:58 PM
ghastley   As an example of what I'd like to post for you...   Feb 12 2011, 08:14 PM
haute ecole rider   Just one little nit for me regarding the bit of bo...   Feb 12 2011, 08:23 PM
ghastley   Good point. This is a manual, so it probably needs...   Feb 12 2011, 08:43 PM
SubRosa   I echo h.e.r.'s comment on girls. It makes the...   Feb 12 2011, 08:45 PM
ghastley   The weapon was dictated originally by the picture ...   Feb 12 2011, 08:56 PM
Ahrenil   Hmm, one problem the riders may have is the fact ...   Feb 13 2011, 01:06 AM
Ahrenil   Woops double post.   Feb 13 2011, 01:06 AM
Acadian   Although I am not a fan of steel bikinis, this see...   Feb 13 2011, 04:30 AM
ghastley   OK, time to try my hand at a bit of what the forum...   Feb 27 2011, 03:56 AM
mALX   Interesting and intriguing !!! WOO HO...   Feb 27 2011, 04:06 AM
Acadian   This is fabulous. You develop Unna a great deal i...   Feb 27 2011, 04:28 AM
ghastley   @mALX : The start's the easy part, it will be ...   Feb 27 2011, 09:04 PM
SubRosa   That was a nice little piece introducing Claudia. ...   Feb 27 2011, 09:12 PM
Acadian   Another great little story that gives folks a very...   Feb 28 2011, 02:30 AM
ghastley   @Acadian: I see what you mean about running them t...   Feb 28 2011, 03:43 AM
mALX   What I find most exciting about this is that at so...   Feb 28 2011, 04:42 AM
ghastley   The first two tales in this short series featured ...   Mar 2 2011, 01:24 AM
SubRosa   Another nice little piece about Svana and Palla. T...   Mar 2 2011, 01:45 AM
mALX   Another nice little piece about Svana and Palla. ...   Mar 2 2011, 02:57 AM
Acadian   Nice background-building on the bear riders, and p...   Mar 2 2011, 03:21 AM
ghastley   @SubRosa: That's the in-game dialog that they ...   Mar 2 2011, 04:27 AM
Cardboard Box   This conversation does take place on a bleak, snow...   Mar 3 2011, 01:01 AM
Grits   I have enjoyed the persistent image of a strapping...   Mar 3 2011, 01:47 AM
ghastley   To help with the persistent images. I'll try a...   Mar 3 2011, 02:37 AM
Grits   Oh my! Does the Captain’s desk chair also find...   Mar 3 2011, 02:52 AM
Thomas Kaira   We-heh-ell.... I know the Nords love the cold but...   Mar 3 2011, 03:17 AM
ghastley   Well I guess that means the link worked. She wea...   Mar 3 2011, 04:49 AM
mALX   Well I guess that means the link worked. She we...   Mar 3 2011, 06:37 AM
ghastley   ...and how in the world you thought of all this.....   Mar 3 2011, 04:15 PM
mALX   ...and how in the world you thought of all this....   Mar 3 2011, 04:31 PM
ghastley   Academic airhead is a great description. Heidi...   Mar 3 2011, 04:45 PM
mALX   Academic airhead is a great description. Heidi...   Mar 3 2011, 04:55 PM
Acadian   Academic airhead is a great description. Heidi...   Mar 3 2011, 05:35 PM
ghastley   A picture may be worth a thousand words, but I fee...   Mar 6 2011, 03:19 AM
Acadian   Oh, I like this one! Just the right touch of ...   Mar 6 2011, 04:22 AM
mALX   Oh! This is that one quest where you help her...   Mar 6 2011, 01:53 PM
ghastley   I've been busy trying to build a new quest to ...   Mar 9 2011, 02:54 AM
Acadian   This was a delightful little story and quest! ...   Mar 9 2011, 04:23 AM
King Coin   DLed the beta. LETS DO THIS   Mar 9 2011, 05:15 AM
ghastley   @Acadian nit fixed. That was a case of adding the ...   Mar 9 2011, 04:08 PM
King Coin   It will probably be a while before my character wa...   Mar 9 2011, 05:42 PM
Grits   Now all the girls are going to want to upgrade the...   Mar 12 2011, 01:58 PM
ghastley   I've been busy adding to the mod itself, and r...   Mar 18 2011, 01:27 AM
SubRosa   Neat combination of an oblivion gate with Order py...   Mar 18 2011, 01:32 AM
ghastley   Neat combination of an oblivion gate with Order p...   Mar 18 2011, 01:45 AM
SubRosa   Neat combination of an oblivion gate with Order ...   Mar 18 2011, 02:34 AM
King Coin   You know... That sounds like a lot of fun!   Mar 18 2011, 02:18 AM
ghastley   I've created most of the final(?) quest of the...   Mar 21 2011, 12:27 AM
haute ecole rider   Ah, so now two mysteries are explained! The m...   Mar 21 2011, 12:38 AM
ghastley   Of course Weebam-Na couldn't afford to eat the...   Mar 21 2011, 12:42 AM
Acadian   Another fun segment, this one focused on Gudrun an...   Mar 21 2011, 02:18 AM
ghastley   I'm experiencing "Modder's Block...   Mar 31 2011, 01:24 AM
Acadian   Yay! Slow thinking, hard drinking, wobbly Hei...   Mar 31 2011, 02:53 AM
King Coin   Just got done reading all of them, good back story...   Mar 31 2011, 04:05 AM
mALX   GAAAH!!! Your links are broken to the...   Apr 6 2011, 09:40 PM
ghastley   GAAAH!!! Your links are broken to th...   Apr 6 2011, 11:42 PM
mALX   GAAAH!!! Your links are broken to t...   Apr 11 2011, 03:12 AM
Grits   Looks great, ghastley!! Lots of fun. :)   Apr 6 2011, 11:56 PM
ghastley   Mod construction is progressing and I've made ...   May 1 2011, 02:00 AM
King Coin   Mod construction is progressing and I've made...   May 1 2011, 03:04 AM
Acadian   Fabulous loading screen! :goodjob: I'm...   May 1 2011, 02:50 AM
mALX   Will Shivering Isles be required for the mod to wo...   May 29 2011, 07:21 AM
ghastley   By the time I release it, I'll most likely hav...   May 29 2011, 03:53 PM
mALX   By the time I release it, I'll most likely ha...   May 29 2011, 06:59 PM
ghastley   I haven't posted anything for ages, because I...   Jun 28 2011, 06:16 PM
Acadian   Why am I smiling? Because this story involving Ma...   Jun 29 2011, 01:15 AM
mALX   This mod must be AWESOME !!! Your ima...   Jul 2 2011, 04:30 PM
ghastley   I'm trying to get myself thinking about this o...   Jul 3 2011, 02:55 PM
Acadian   'She particularly liked it when Prietus did th...   Jul 4 2011, 12:24 AM
ghastley   The updated mod is now on TesNexus [b]here. The fi...   Jul 5 2011, 01:05 AM
King Coin   The updated mod is now on TesNexus [url=http://ww...   Jul 5 2011, 02:31 AM
ghastley   No it's now properly split into SI and non-SI ...   Jul 5 2011, 02:50 AM
Acadian   Very clever weaving of the Oblivion Gates and new ...   Jul 6 2011, 12:17 AM
MyCat   I played the old mod. I'll play the new one. W...   Jul 6 2011, 02:43 AM
ghastley   Malandil's tale had been a bit of a roadblock ...   Jul 7 2011, 02:23 AM
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minque   Very nice mod! And you really did a great thin...   Jul 12 2011, 08:55 AM
ghastley   My understanding of the TES world is that magic is...   Jul 17 2011, 02:02 PM
mALX   BWAAHAA !! I love this !! En...   Jul 17 2011, 02:37 PM
ghastley   I just noticed that I'd never put up the final...   Feb 19 2012, 02:45 AM
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Acadian   What fascinating take on the whole SI thing from t...   Feb 20 2012, 01:33 AM
ghastley   There was one more quest in the mod that never had...   Mar 10 2012, 04:38 AM
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